Paul Momirovski

Although centre was a real issue, fullback was more of a issue and obviously Penrith identified Momo as a player they would trade us Laurie for. So we did the deal, maybe in hindsight we should have waited another year for Laurie and kept Momo. Although we probably would have got the spoon without Laurie
 
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485853) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485849) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485838) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485834) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

I dont recall anyone here labeling him useless. Fans here almost unanimously labelled him average. Good first grader which is exactly what he is. Many here (myself included) correctly pointed out that there was much higher potential upside with BJ & JTJ however unfortunately they never achieved that upside.

That was good of you to “correctly” point something out to the rest of us….except you weren’t correct were you?
Instead of keeping a strong defensive centre, we got an ex druggo with no speed and a head case with no ability…both of whom played bugger all footy for the club.
Anymore bright ideas?

Im 100% correct and it isnt even subjective. That ex druggo played 3 SoO games which is three more than Momo will and the head case with no ability was Dally M centre of the year which Momo will never be. At their best both of these players are light years better than Momo's best, no contest. This is the "upside". If you seriously need this explained to you, it might be time for a new alt.

Clearly neither of them played anywhere near their best and both didnt work. Momo would have been better than both of them at centre....but thats not the point.

There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Let me know next time you would like something else explained to you.

Lol you are deluded if you think you have made any valid points here. Both of those centres were broken and unwanted when we threw money at them. I know I have had to explain risk management to you before so I will not bother again.
There is “no situation” where we could have had both Momo and Laurie? No situation LOL…how would you know?

Makes sense that if you think professional risk management involves imaginary risks that you consider imaginary scenarios involving contracts. Im sure it correlates with most of the imaginary aspects of you and your alts.

I'll leave our conversation here, wont engage with you and your imagination here. Beside the fact that you are boring myself and others with your intransigence, I dont want to trigger you into another ban and the birth of yet another alt.

They are not “imaginary”…lol. They were real risks with quantifiable data. My god I hope you didn’t drop to much coin on that degree of yours. Maybe that’s where the anger comes from with you?
Anyway, you stated that you wouldn’t engage with me. Please stick to your convictions.
 
@supercoach said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485856) said:
Although centre was a real issue, fullback was more of a issue and obviously Penrith identified Momo as a player they would trade us Laurie for. So we did the deal, maybe in hindsight we should have waited another year for Laurie and kept Momo. Although we probably would have got the spoon without Laurie

This tells me that Penrith’s recruitment department is leagues ahead of ours.
As for hypotheticals, Laurie went ok for us but didn’t set the world alight. Had he played out the year at Penrith we would have received a far better player for 2022 than what we actually do have. Additionally we could have strengthened our right edge for 2021.
Anyway it’s all guesswork.
 
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?
 
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485915) said:
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?


I thought the club had to quash his contract and rewrite it to include the Storm visit, which is when an extra 2 years was added.
 
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485915) said:
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?

He’s better than Peachy, and would cost less than $400k a season
 
@twentyforty said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485919) said:
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485915) said:
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?


I thought the club had to quash his contract and rewrite it to include the Storm visit, which is when an extra 2 years was added.

I thought it ended the end of this year but could be wrong.
 
@tigerap said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485923) said:
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485915) said:
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?

He’s better than Peachy, and would cost less than $400k a season

Yeah but he isn't better than Laurie.
 
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.
 
@supercoach said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485856) said:
Although centre was a real issue, fullback was more of a issue and obviously Penrith identified Momo as a player they would trade us Laurie for. So we did the deal, maybe in hindsight we should have waited another year for Laurie and kept Momo. Although we probably would have got the spoon without Laurie

I agree we would have gone close to getting the spoon without Laurie.
 
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485924) said:
@twentyforty said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485919) said:
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485915) said:
@geo said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485848) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485844) said:
There is no situation that has both Momo and Laurie in our squad. They are mutually exclusive. Our squad is stronger with Laurie in and Momo out than the other way around. That is all that matters and the club made the right choice.

Well except both were signed for 2022..

Building the team that takes time..

Forgetting all that ..If Momirovski was on the market now ..would Wests Tigers sign him..IMO yes..

Was momo signed for 22?


I thought the club had to quash his contract and rewrite it to include the Storm visit, which is when an extra 2 years was added.

I thought it ended the end of this year but could be wrong.

He had no contract when he signed with Storm on loan, so a new contract was written in early 2020 before he left. It wasn’t very well publicised but I have a memory of POM or someone saying he signed for 2 years, 21 & 22. Perhaps he only signed for 1 year? I wonder how much of his contract WT paid Panthers?
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485953) said:
@supercoach said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485856) said:
Although centre was a real issue, fullback was more of a issue and obviously Penrith identified Momo as a player they would trade us Laurie for. So we did the deal, maybe in hindsight we should have waited another year for Laurie and kept Momo. Although we probably would have got the spoon without Laurie

I agree we would have gone close to getting the spoon without Laurie.

I think so too. The minute he got injured at the end of the year we imploded. If he played the last few games I think we were a chance of scraping into 8th position.
 
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up
 
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486114) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up

Only if you take selections personally. 4 or 5 does not go into 2. It’s professional sport. It’s not a given to get selected. Momo would have definitely played a part as the season progressed.

I definitely agree with Talau.

We were crying out for some speed so we can disagree with Roberts at the time.

BJ is so damaging at his best and his problems are upstairs so it was a gamble to persevere with him and it’s only hindsight that allows you say I told you so. If the gamble paid off then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

I don’t get the lament. We got Laurie. As I mentioned earlier, it was a step sideways to go forwards.
 
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486140) said:
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486114) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up

Only if you take selections personally. 4 or 5 does not go into 2. It’s professional sport. It’s not a given to get selected. Momo would have definitely played a part as the season progressed.

I definitely agree with Talau.

We were crying out for some speed so we can disagree with Roberts at the time.

BJ is so damaging at his best and his problems are upstairs so it was a gamble to persevere with him and it’s only hindsight that allows you say I told you so. If the gamble paid off then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

I don’t get the lament. We got Laurie. As I mentioned earlier, it was a step sideways to go forwards.

I can't comment on BJs best as I have not seen it in recent memory. His best in the 2 years he was with us was absolute crap.
 
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486114) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up

The choice wasnt BJ, Roberts, Talau or Momo.

The choice was Laurie or Momo.
 
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486143) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486140) said:
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486114) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up

Only if you take selections personally. 4 or 5 does not go into 2. It’s professional sport. It’s not a given to get selected. Momo would have definitely played a part as the season progressed.

I definitely agree with Talau.

We were crying out for some speed so we can disagree with Roberts at the time.

BJ is so damaging at his best and his problems are upstairs so it was a gamble to persevere with him and it’s only hindsight that allows you say I told you so. If the gamble paid off then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

I don’t get the lament. We got Laurie. As I mentioned earlier, it was a step sideways to go forwards.

I can't comment on BJs best as I have not seen it in recent memory. His best in the 2 years he was with us was absolute crap.

Early 2019, before his injury he was tearing up, career best form.
 
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486143) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486140) said:
@harvey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1486114) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485931) said:
@plisskin said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485806) said:
@jirskyr That is not the point.
Fans on here were labelling him useless.
3 out of the past 4 premiership coaches disagree.

The insinuation I’m reading throughout is that tigers (and Madge to suit a narrative) were labelling him useless by offering him for the trade.

You can trade someone and value them at the same time.

They picked BJ, Roberts and Talau ahead of him. Valued like the 5c piece you walk past rather than wasting your time picking it up

Only if you take selections personally. 4 or 5 does not go into 2. It’s professional sport. It’s not a given to get selected. Momo would have definitely played a part as the season progressed.

I definitely agree with Talau.

We were crying out for some speed so we can disagree with Roberts at the time.

BJ is so damaging at his best and his problems are upstairs so it was a gamble to persevere with him and it’s only hindsight that allows you say I told you so. If the gamble paid off then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

I don’t get the lament. We got Laurie. As I mentioned earlier, it was a step sideways to go forwards.

I can't comment on BJs best as I have not seen it in recent memory. His best in the 2 years he was with us was absolute crap.

Yes it was unfortunately. We got a glimpse it think maybe one game…that I can remember
 
@cochise said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485432) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485342) said:
Tonight showed that Benji should call it quits.

I don't think he is going to, will hang around hoping for a contract.

Have a gap year and then sign on with Unca Wayne at the new Brisbane Franchise.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485497) said:
@aturkey said in [Paul Momirovski](/post/1485491) said:
We are such a stupid club. Momirovski was too good for us. He was vital in many games for Penrith at centre. He's such a quality finisher and was so at our club too.

I completely disagree. Even if we had Laurie and Momirovski playing for us, we would still be finishing between 11-14. Momo is a solid player and has definitely lifted this year behind one of the fittesy and most confident team in recent memory. ***He wouldn't have been this good for us.***

But he was good all along, footy smarts, could find the line and would have been our best centre by a long way, which isn't really giving him the credit he deserves because the standard of what we had was pretty low.

We did him a big favour, but that was only through our own stupdity claiming that he was only going to be our 3rd or 4th favoured centre if he stayed.

If I was Momo I would pay Wests Tigers a visit and say, "kiss my (premiership) ring losers."
 
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