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And that's my point Earl. He had to be smart enough to get through on merit - not money. Where the cards fall after that is always a mystery.Earl? It meant he was the smartest in his cohort. He wasn't the richest? Couldn't pay for his degree? The fact others dropped out means nothing. He earned his academic spot - didn't buy it?
corruption has been on both sides of politics.I think it's absolutely amazing how many 🤔 politicians, governments, Premiers, Prime Ministers, Presidents around the world are corrupt or "rotten to the core".
Are the silent majority, us ordinary people able to do anything about it though?
Do the people in power now have to much control and therefore power over Us already?
The fact Scomo doesnt want an ICAC should tell Us something...and I feel that something is "voter beware'' ... think carefully before you cast your vote...and make Your vote count the best way you feel it can to help Everyone here in the NO 1 country in the World...the Lucky country...of course being Australia
difference is turnbull tried to destroy a party from within and almost got the job done too
He is salty now and tried in 2019 to encourage a vote for independents and is doing it again. The Liberals should disindorse him
corruption has been on both sides of politics.
I don't particularly like the icac nsw model the way it is dragged out in the public eye
o he is still a member I don't think liberals kicked him out they threatened it in 2020 i believeDidn't Turnbull leave the party altogether when he got knifed?
That sucks. Young or old, there are plenty of people left behind when a government uses figures such as working one hour a week obscures the reality and people cannot even move locations because they cannot get accommodation with no hope of competing in a narrow rental market. Times are great for some, but devastatingly bad for more than a few.As someone who lost their job due to covid and got a job I thought everything would be fine now I've got work. In 5 months I've had one shift just cause you get work doesn't mean you're gonna get to work if it wasn't for welfare payments I would have nothing and most weeks I'm broke welfare payments should be increased with inflation
You could write a novel on the corruption a well set up ICAC could uncover. I lean to the centre right but I was rapt that Obeid went down. The only people resiling from a good ICAC are ? who? those arguing against it lol. And who do you think they are?Doesn't it have to be made public due to the nature that it's meant to be acting in the public interest?
Thanks @formerguest 🙂...Very Much Appreciated 👍.Always good to share that which one is comfortable with when ready and/or comfortable to do such.
Only ever seen one person on here have a go at you 63, and unwarranted at that, so hold your head as high as you can.
Get back to hard right? They have never been hard right and hopefully they never will be. Excessively pandering to either extreme of the political spectrum is a good way to lose the entire middle.the coalition needs to get back to hard right and they will regain the one nation and UAP voters, the bulk of people voting for one nation and UAP are not Labor or Green voters anyway the Libs lost the way when turnbull tried to stuff the party from within. He almost lost the un losable election
The Libs have let in many moderates and they need to sort that out as it is the Sharma type of liberal who will lose to an independent at the election.
Libs if they lose will fix up the moderates in the party and bring the one nation and UAP vote back to the coalition next time
It should clear the deck for a Dutton to take over if frydenberg loses his seat at election
Wow, I read that as you proposing that a right wing candidate beating an inner suburban independent is more likely than a moderate, is that correct?the coalition needs to get back to hard right and they will regain the one nation and UAP voters, the bulk of people voting for one nation and UAP are not Labor or Green voters anyway the Libs lost the way when turnbull tried to stuff the party from within. He almost lost the un losable election
The Libs have let in many moderates and they need to sort that out as it is the Sharma type of liberal who will lose to an independent at the election.
Libs if they lose will fix up the moderates in the party and bring the one nation and UAP vote back to the coalition next time
It should clear the deck for a Dutton to take over if frydenberg loses his seat at election
WOW!!! your 2nd paragraph is such a sweeping and obviously deeply thought out statement 🙁 @EarlI totally agree. That is why I'm supportive of a good social security system.
At the same time if you can go to the pub and drink beer you can get another job if you want more beers.
And here in one post is the reason that Australian politics is down the toilet lolthe coalition needs to get back to hard right and they will regain the one nation and UAP voters, the bulk of people voting for one nation and UAP are not Labor or Green voters anyway the Libs lost the way when turnbull tried to stuff the party from within. He almost lost the un losable election
The Libs have let in many moderates and they need to sort that out as it is the Sharma type of liberal who will lose to an independent at the election.
Libs if they lose will fix up the moderates in the party and bring the one nation and UAP vote back to the coalition next time
It should clear the deck for a Dutton to take over if frydenberg loses his seat at election
Not very thirsty?Why am I half pissed on a Tigers forum talking politics? lol
When you are at the bottle shop purchasing your bottle of Dom, can I suggest @Earl something that goes very nicely with it?I want more government payments because I deserve Dom.
OK, about to walk the dogs at the golf course (tiny town - sand greens), have one while I walk and I might come back. Then I might go all in. In iso and running out of Coopers Red lol. Might have to look in the spirits cupboard? 🙂Not very thirsty?
yes do think a Dutton type is what the conservatives should be looking at to bring back the hard right. Not necessarily a Dutton fan but if they go to Dutton then they stand for something like that did when Abbott was leaderWow, I read that as you proposing that a right wing candidate beating an inner suburban independent is more likely than a moderate, is that correct?