Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here
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100% in support of it being legislated. Religious organisations should have no obligation to partake though.
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Marriage doesn't define creation of life. Plenty of married couples choose to be childless, plenty are childless for reasons outside their control, plenty of kids are born into unmarried homes.
Elizabeth Taylor got married seven times, and gays are the ones who'll cheapen the institution of marriage?
innsaneink
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That's twice in a couple of days I've heard this joke… MacEnroe says hi
sheer64
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As the comedian Lucky Grills always said I have nothing against it unless they make it compulsory.
momo_amp_medo
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We are all born different in some way.
It's up to people to accept that and not discriminate.
It's up to people to accept that and not discriminate.
GNR4LIFE
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It will happen. Whether it takes 5 years or 50\. We live in a progressive world. 50 years ago gays weren't allowed in the military, blacks were segregated and women couldn't vote. The world is ever evolving.
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The reason the LGBT lobby is pushing so hard is because they don't believe these figures - that's why they don't want a plebiscite.
Just like Brexit and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon people won't openly come out with opinion in public that constantly gets shouted down and ridiculed.
Different matter in the privacy of an election booth.
GNR4LIFE
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If there is a plebiscite gay marriage will win in a landslide. Probably why there hasn't been one.
Tim Sheens
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I grew up amongst the dinosaurs of the white Australia policy etcetera, etcetera. This prejudice that the Howard government created by changing the marriage act needs to be corrected ASAP and does not even have to include anybody, just remove the words they added that exclude.
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The polling in this country isn't that inaccurate. And they're pretty universal in what they find. Most people don't care or support it. They don't want a plebiscite be a use they don't feel they need to justify their desire to marry the person they love.
old_man_tiger
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Don't care either way, I don't mean to sound harsh, I'd be happy for it to pass, but don't think we should let politicians hoodwink us into wasting time on the issue.
Would rather it was dealt with decisively by the people who get payed to run the country. I think both sides of politics find easy wins on this issue and don't want it to end, meanwhile, economy going backwards, housing situation is a joke in Sydney and Melbourne, the rich get richer, foreign policy setting us up in between China and the USA, and they take money from overseas donors to find their useless parties. With all due respect to my fellow Australians, I think you are doing them a favour by debating it and really the heat should be on politicians to deliver.
Would rather it was dealt with decisively by the people who get payed to run the country. I think both sides of politics find easy wins on this issue and don't want it to end, meanwhile, economy going backwards, housing situation is a joke in Sydney and Melbourne, the rich get richer, foreign policy setting us up in between China and the USA, and they take money from overseas donors to find their useless parties. With all due respect to my fellow Australians, I think you are doing them a favour by debating it and really the heat should be on politicians to deliver.
I can see both sides of the argument.
On one side if 2 people love each other why not let them get married, it's of no consequence to anyone else.
And on the other side, marriage is historically a religious sacrament so I respect the Church's right to an opinion.
However, at the end of the day it is inevitable that same sex marriage will eventually be legal in 99% of the world so we might as well just say yes to it now.
On one side if 2 people love each other why not let them get married, it's of no consequence to anyone else.
And on the other side, marriage is historically a religious sacrament so I respect the Church's right to an opinion.
However, at the end of the day it is inevitable that same sex marriage will eventually be legal in 99% of the world so we might as well just say yes to it now.
diedpretty
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Why a secret ballot - i think the Australian public should know where each of them stand. Its not a secret society.
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