Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[jadtiger]

So Morrison's pick over that of the party has quit the party and gone to the cross bench.

Quite hilarious when you think about it.The last 2 liberal PMs went in to bat for this moron in a safe seat and he repays them by still clinging to his braindead theories and going to the cross benches.
The sad part of this is after he gets thrown out at the next election he will still get paid by the tax payer.

 

[Tiger5150]

So Morrison's pick over that of the party has quit the party and gone to the cross bench.

Saves them the headache with preselection

 

[Tim Sheens]

Louise Milligan

@Milliganreports

Prime Minister has just quoted me in parliament to prove Labor also has issues re toxic behaviour. True, but of dozens & dozens of calls we made to staff & politicians from all sides, vast majority of allegations, volunteered, not sought, were about Liberal & Nationals.

 

[Tiger5150]

Ok so the US are bombing Syria and putting kids in cages.

The more things change the more they stay the same (except the media treatment).

 

[Tiger5150]

Louise Milligan

@Milliganreports

Prime Minister has just quoted me in parliament to prove Labor also has issues re toxic behaviour. True, but of dozens & dozens of calls we made to staff & politicians from all sides, vast majority of allegations, volunteered, not sought, were about Liberal & Nationals.

So...whataboutism?

She admits both sides have toxic behaviour, but one side is worse? So that absolves the side with less?

IMO whataboutism with regards to sexist toxic behaviour is very dangerous, both sides have many documented cases of sexist behaviour. Addressing the problem is beneficial, party politics is counter productive and whilst Labor has Bill Shorten they might want to be careful of their glass house.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Ok so the US are bombing Syria and putting kids in cages.

The more things change the more they stay the same (except the media treatment).

I have seen both widely reported in various centre and left of there media, rightly condemned along with Cuomo copping it for weeks as well. Of course have also seen it on the spattering of the right that I have viewed as well, where it is being brought up for the first time in years and apart from the child separation bit, pretty well the same attention to the issue elsewhere.

I suppose a lot depends on the diversity of media an individual sources, but can honestly say that apart from new focus on FOX and similar, I have seen little difference in coverage and if anything more noise on it.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Louise Milligan

@Milliganreports

Prime Minister has just quoted me in parliament to prove Labor also has issues re toxic behaviour. True, but of dozens & dozens of calls we made to staff & politicians from all sides, vast majority of allegations, volunteered, not sought, were about Liberal & Nationals.


So...whataboutism?

She admits both sides have toxic behaviour, but one side is worse? So that absolves the side with less?

IMO whataboutism with regards to sexist toxic behaviour is very dangerous, both sides have many documented cases of sexist behaviour. Addressing the problem is beneficial, party politics is counter productive and whilst Labor has Bill Shorten they might want to be careful of their glass house.

Agreed though the point is that the "whataboutism" came directly from Morrison himself. All should be treated appropriately and not being above the law, including standing down from ministries or their shadows if a reasonable claim is put forward.

The attacks on the 4 Corners reporters and the ABC from Paul Fletcher for doing their jobs were totally out of place and with him one of the four likely candidates in the long standing rape allegations that have again come to light, it makes his actions even more questionable.

 

[Tiger5150]

Ok so the US are bombing Syria and putting kids in cages.

The more things change the more they stay the same (except the media treatment).

I have seen both widely reported in various centre and left of there media, rightly condemned along with Cuomo copping it for weeks as well. Of course have also seen it on the spattering of the right that I have viewed as well, where it is being brought up for the first time in years and apart from the child separation bit, pretty well the same attention to the issue elsewhere.

I suppose a lot depends on the diversity of media an individual sources, but can honestly say that apart from new focus on FOX and similar, I have seen little difference in coverage and if anything more noise on it.

Cuomo copping it is a good example. Him forcing COVID patients back into nursing homes and then lying about the number of nursing home deaths was being reported on the Right a year ago, but the wider mainstream media (possibly without Fox) left it totally alone until after the election. At one stage he was being touted as a replacement for Biden

 

[Tim Sheens]

Listening to Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon at CPAC this morning and nothing has changed as it is again full of lies. Talking about himself and the rest of the same crap and going of script with it. I'm about 15 minutes behind in his speech, so he may still be speaking.

Cementing the future of the Republican party to be the bridesmaids for a decade or more.

Edit; He is on about the election again now and by some of their number continuing the election lies, with the rest allowing him a platform again and along with him expanding voter suppression, it is very much to the detriment of the nation.

Actually, having not heard his rubbish for a while, I realised that apart for the 25% odd that are bouyed on or fooled by it, his rhetoric is boring.

 

[Tiger5150]

Listening to Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon this morning and nothing has changed as it is again full of lies. Talking about himself and the rest of the same crap and going of script with it. I'm about 15 minutes behind in his speech, so he may still be speaking.

Cementing the future of the Republican party to be the bridesmaids for a decade or more.

I agree with this. It is at a level now that is dangerous and it is hurting the GOP. It is going to take some very strong leadership from the GOP but if they can do this, it may be the making of the GOP and the US.

What I mean is that with strong leadership of the GOP, they can stand strong and provide strong alternative leadership, a good alternative presidential candidate and of course Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon would run against but if the GOP can stand strong and vote against him, then of course they will lose a LOT of votes and the QAnon nutjobs et al will al leave but it will leave the party stronger and more focused in the future. Might take a few cycles.

IMO the Dems will have the same situation in the future with radical left elements of their party.

Both sides need to clean out their own back yards and remove radical elements and then the US will be on a better path. Trouble is that a lot of the more radical elements of the left are entrenched in institutions such as the academy and therefore are systemic. IMO the radical elements of the right are reacting in response to this. Im sure you may think it is the other way around and you may be right, bottom line (again IMO) this is leading to hyperpartisanship with the middle paralysed.

 

[diedpretty]

On the plus side, now academics have labeled me a "non-birthing parent" and my wife a "gestational parent".....
Nothing like living in the enlightened all inclusive 2021.....


Seriously?!?!

Apparently its true - can't remember what uni it was but it was suggested that that is how mother and father should now be referred to. I'd like to know how the child differentiates if they are adopted - both parents are non birthing parents. I can see it now - 13 yr old adopted child gets asked who that is - oh thats my female non birthing parent. However there would be those who would frown on the use of "female". So a more politically correct reply from the 13 yr old would be " thats my female at birth non birthing parent".

 

[tiger_one]

On the plus side, now academics have labeled me a "non-birthing parent" and my wife a "gestational parent".....
Nothing like living in the enlightened all inclusive 2021.....


Seriously?!?!

Apparently its true - can't remember what uni it was but it was suggested that that is how mother and father should now be referred to. I'd like to know how the child differentiates if they are adopted - both parents are non birthing parents. I can see it now - 13 yr old adopted child gets asked who that is - oh thats my female non birthing parent. However there would be those who would frown on the use of "female". So a more politically correct reply from the 13 yr old would be " thats my female at birth non birthing parent".

Are these people real?
What is happening?

 

[Tiger5150]

On the plus side, now academics have labeled me a "non-birthing parent" and my wife a "gestational parent".....
Nothing like living in the enlightened all inclusive 2021.....


Seriously?!?!

Apparently its true - can't remember what uni it was but it was suggested that that is how mother and father should now be referred to. I'd like to know how the child differentiates if they are adopted - both parents are non birthing parents. I can see it now - 13 yr old adopted child gets asked who that is - oh thats my female non birthing parent. However there would be those who would frown on the use of "female". So a more politically correct reply from the 13 yr old would be " thats my female at birth non birthing parent".


Are these people real?
What is happening?

It is all intentional. It is Critical Theory, which is cultural marxism out of the Frankfurt School in the 1930's and later developed in France. A core component is that there no claim to the universality of absolute truth. As such, Critical Theory does not grant primacy to matter (materialism) or consciousness (idealism).

*"The facts, which our senses present to us, are socially performed in two ways: through the historical character of the object perceived, and through the historical character of the perceiving organ. Both are not simply natural; they are shaped by human activity, and yet the individual perceives himself as receptive and passive in the act of perception."* - Traditional and Critical Theory (Horkheimer 1937)

Critical theory states that the only reason that you think of yourself as "the father" and your wife as "the mother" is a result of human activity and as such is not real. Cultural Marxism state that this human activity is based on patriarchal oppression and should be removed. Critical Race Theory states that this human activity is based on white patriarchal oppression.

A tenet of Cultural Marxism is that with Critical Theory, that is critical analysis of what we see as "facts" then these fundamental elements can be reinvented and in doing so remove many of the fundamentals that underpin established institutions and systems that make up post enlightenment western civilisations. Good example is that BLM had on their "what we believe" page that they are "trained marxists" and that they stand for the removal of the idea of the nuclear family.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/

Cultural Marxism say that once you accept 2 + 2 = 5 then you can accept other changes. This is what is underpinning the massive changes that leave the rest of us scratching our heads.

 

[tiger_one]

On the plus side, now academics have labeled me a "non-birthing parent" and my wife a "gestational parent".....
Nothing like living in the enlightened all inclusive 2021.....


Seriously?!?!

Apparently its true - can't remember what uni it was but it was suggested that that is how mother and father should now be referred to. I'd like to know how the child differentiates if they are adopted - both parents are non birthing parents. I can see it now - 13 yr old adopted child gets asked who that is - oh thats my female non birthing parent. However there would be those who would frown on the use of "female". So a more politically correct reply from the 13 yr old would be " thats my female at birth non birthing parent".


Are these people real?
What is happening?


It is all intentional. It is Critical Theory, which is cultural marxism out of the Frankfurt School in the 1930's and later developed in France. A core component is that there no claim to the universality of absolute truth. As such, Critical Theory does not grant primacy to matter (materialism) or consciousness (idealism).

*"The facts, which our senses present to us, are socially performed in two ways: through the historical character of the object perceived, and through the historical character of the perceiving organ. Both are not simply natural; they are shaped by human activity, and yet the individual perceives himself as receptive and passive in the act of perception."* - Traditional and Critical Theory (Horkheimer 1937)

Critical theory states that the only reason that you think of yourself as "the father" and your wife as "the mother" is a result of human activity and as such is not real. Cultural Marxism state that this human activity is based on patriarchal oppression and should be removed. Critical Race Theory states that this human activity is based on white patriarchal oppression.

A tenet of Cultural Marxism is that with Critical Theory, that is critical analysis of what we see as "facts" then these fundamental elements can be reinvented and in doing so remove many of the fundamentals that underpin established institutions and systems that make up post enlightenment western civilisations. Good example is that BLM had on their "what we believe" page that they are "trained marxists" and that they stand for the removal of the idea of the nuclear family.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/

Cultural Marxism say that once you accept 2 + 2 = 5 then you can accept other changes. This is what is underpinning the massive changes that leave the rest of us scratching our heads.

Gee Whiz, I'm sure scratching mine .......

 

[Tim Sheens]

So when parliament returns in a couple of weeks, with any luck we will no longer have to hear Christian Porter say "I move the member no longer be heard"

 

[Tim Sheens]

So when parliament returns in a couple of weeks, with any luck we will no longer have to hear Christian Porter say "I move the member no longer be heard"

Seems we might hear from the guy who hired a defamation lawyer tomorrow. Won't change the fact that he was in Sydney when the then 16 year old was allegedly raped by the cabinet minister.

The silence from the federal attorney general on the biggest political legal matter has been deafening.

 

[jadtiger]

It must be devastating to some that the 4th of March has been and gone and the American armed forces or Jehovah have not returned Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to his rightful place as President of the USA.Still i have no doubt that the true Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporters are inventing another random date in the future when it all happens.
Yes i am being sarcastic but his supporters are so brainwashed many will believe the new date is right

 

[TillLindemann]

Update to the 'list of forbidden things' from the last 7 days:

- Dr Seuss
- Pepe Le Pew
- Mumford & Sons
- the term 'Blue Anon'

 

[TillLindemann]

This is the power of big tech to shape political discourse. They can 'disappear' certain kinds of search results, and most of the time people would have no idea.

https://twitter.com/RyeLibertarian/status/1368575931485405186

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Someone needs to create a meme using that Simpsons joke when Homer says not everyone has a fear and Marge yells “sock puppets” and Homer cries “WHERE?”. A meme has to be used for the right whenever the term big tech is mentioned