Quickest backflip??

[happy_tiger]

The optimists can have a turn this week ….. All the doomsayers can have a rest :sign:

At least with those that call it crap when it's crap. ..and applaud them when they deserve applause….you know what you get...they face the facts ..no room for BS here.....

Completely agree. I'm really struggling to understand some of the comments on here. Is it acceptable to play terrible footy ? Is it better to make a change to a terrible game plan ? Was the game against Souths a much better performance ?

Stop the spin.

Sorry Warney :unamused:

This whole spin thing annoys me , what your saying is your spin on it as well ?? Yes ??

Like any new total overhaul thinks take time , they will still have their good and bad days due to the inexperience of our squad

People seem to forget we lost over 800 games of NRL experience last season

Things had to change and they are

Is this so hard to accept ??

 

[stryker]

I know this sounds funny considering we only let one try in but our defence wasn't very good at all. South's made easy yards up the middle and I can remember a few sets where they made 50+ meters in a set without a line break.
Having said that they also made some good line breaks and if we are to be honest, blew a number of chances to score.
Our boys scrambled well and at times put huge pressure on them but overall our attack won that game and the bodies in motion confused their edge defence resulting in a couple of very soft tries.

I'm not seeing the improvement in defence structure yet. All I have seen is defensive attack. Friday night we saw offensive attack and it reaped rewards.

zl Power

 

[jirskyr]

Jirskyr, Clearly he didn't change the game plan. He adjusted it.

Err… can you explain this to me? Since when was an adjustment not a change? You sound like a politician.

 

[TrueTiger]

Jirskyr, Clearly he didn't change the game plan. He adjusted it.

Err… can you explain this to me? Since when was an adjustment not a change? You sound like a politician.

jirsky,I think what Styker is saying is,JT made a couple of adjustments to the structure….he didnt change the structure as such,it still is a defensive structure.... :smiley:

 

[fergiefurr]

How about JT and his structures going out the window and what a difference it makes.

Spot on

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[Mccarry]

This thread has enough rubbish in it that I went back to watch the game again the check I wasn't going crazy.

I have just finished the first half. So far - anyone that says we stopped running one off the ruck is kidding themselves. It has been incredibly consistent. It is the same as other weeks. The difference I can see is:

Our forwards are hitting the line harder
They are them making 3m + after contact
They are then able to get to their bellies more often
They are then able to get to their knees before or on the held call
We then get a quicker play the ball
The next runner then gets an easier run

Other observations:
Some great hit ups early in sets from Nofa or another back which dramatically changes the momentum of the set. Having good centres makes a difference at the beginning and end of sets

It has been said but Cherrington gives fantastic, crisp service from dummy half. He looks so comfortable and confident

Teddy is very slow to play the ball. Perhaps took a hit but worth him trying to keep momentum by getting up quicker

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[cktiger]

The backflip was from the players.
The only difference I could see from previous weeks was our guys tried harder.
About time.
If the forwards put in like that every week the young halves will go straight from 'potential' to 'superstars'.

 

[stevetiger]

I'm not seeing the improvement in defence structure yet. All I have seen is defensive attack. Friday night we saw offensive attack and it reaped rewards.

Exactly. We just played some footy and it makes a difference.

 

[hobbo]

I'm not seeing the improvement in defence structure yet. All I have seen is defensive attack. Friday night we saw offensive attack and it reaped rewards.

Exactly. We just played some footy and it makes a difference.

And Add to the fact that we had Simona and Noffa back and Souths are looking tired and were missing key players .
We threw the ball around and out enthused them , and that was the difference.
Defence was still average but they scrambled well .
Just let them play footy for God sake !

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[Mighty_Tiger]

I'm not seeing the improvement in defence structure yet. All I have seen is defensive attack. Friday night we saw offensive attack and it reaped rewards.

Exactly. We just played some footy and it makes a difference.

Interesting how people sees things differently.

From my end I see the purpose of the high bombs allows us to come up and a single line formation to reduce the run back ability from the fullbacks, when defending we don't come up disjointed but in a line majority of the time (past years there where gaps all across our line due to people running up and leaving massive holes), the wrestle is also different in that we tend to bend players back and dominate more. Our goal line defence has definitely improved last year we were pillows on the line.

Might not be rocket science but there have been subtle changes to it which have been effective to some degree.

We also are stopping 2nd phase play a lot more this year.

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[ryanda01]

I'm not seeing the improvement in defence structure yet. All I have seen is defensive attack. Friday night we saw offensive attack and it reaped rewards.

Exactly. We just played some footy and it makes a difference.

Interesting how people sees things differently.

From my end I see the purpose of the high bombs allows us to come up and a single line formation to reduce the run back ability from the fullbacks, when defending we don't come up disjointed but in a line majority of the time (past years there where gaps all across our line due to people running up and leaving massive holes), the wrestle is also different in that we tend to bend players back and dominate more. Our goal line defence has definitely improved last year we were pillows on the line.

Might not be rocket science but there have been subtle changes to it which have been effective to some degree.

We also are stopping 2nd phase play a lot more this year.

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Yeah agree Mighty Tiger.

For mind, it appeared if we wanted to steady the D line, option would be to go to Brooks and put up the standard 5 + bomb routine with it landing in the 10m zone, but all of the attacking kicks went to Moses. Think this is the way they should play. Or alternate when the opposition can sense it.

 

[stryker]

The bomb to set the defensive line has been a tactic all year.

 

[innsaneink]

It's to avoid seven tackle sets against us….an attacking kick at the end of that set and the chance of forcing a goal line drop out to us.
It's why the bombs are landing 20 odd meters out

 

[jirskyr]

This thread has enough rubbish in it that I went back to watch the game again the check I wasn't going crazy.

I have just finished the first half. So far - anyone that says we stopped running one off the ruck is kidding themselves. It has been incredibly consistent. It is the same as other weeks.
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Good on you Mccarry.

Some people are trying to tell me that the structures didn't change, they were just massaged or adjusted a bit, and now we are suddenly successful. "Thank God JT had the wisdom to adjust his structures are we said he should."

What I saw on Friday was a team with high intensity and good execution, physically dominating the opposition. I saw it 5 weeks ago against the Doggies too. Mostly the same players, same structures, same tactics. But there is a massive difference between what happens when you catch the ball and when you don't, when you miss that goal-line tackle and you don't.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

This thread has enough rubbish in it that I went back to watch the game again the check I wasn't going crazy.

I have just finished the first half. So far - anyone that says we stopped running one off the ruck is kidding themselves. It has been incredibly consistent. It is the same as other weeks.
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Good on you Mccarry.

Some people are trying to tell me that the structures didn't change, they were just massaged or adjusted a bit, and now we are suddenly successful. "Thank God JT had the wisdom to adjust his structures are we said he should."

Ive seen the game twice now also.

A lot of people have seen the same subtle changes to the structure.

No one thought the structure was a bad idea, we just wanted it a little less dumbed down. That happened this week.

Anyhow thats my opinion, yours and others are different.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

From another thread -

Gasnier mentioned on Super Saturday, that JT send word out to the boys after half time telling them to " Play any way you like, but don't concede points."
Interesting i thought! :ugeek:

Yeah but we didnt change anything they say :roll

 

[hobbo]

From another thread -

Gasnier mentioned on Super Saturday, that JT send word out to the boys after half time telling them to " Play any way you like, but don't concede points."
Interesting i thought! :ugeek:

Yeah but we didnt change anything they say :roll

:laughing: Taylor Ball :laughing:

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[jirskyr]

This thread has enough rubbish in it that I went back to watch the game again the check I wasn't going crazy.

I have just finished the first half. So far - anyone that says we stopped running one off the ruck is kidding themselves. It has been incredibly consistent. It is the same as other weeks.
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Good on you Mccarry.

Some people are trying to tell me that the structures didn't change, they were just massaged or adjusted a bit, and now we are suddenly successful. "Thank God JT had the wisdom to adjust his structures are we said he should."

Ive seen the game twice now also.

A lot of people have seen the same subtle changes to the structure.

No one thought the structure was a bad idea, we just wanted it a little less dumbed down. That happened this week.

Anyhow thats my opinion, yours and others are different.

Fair enough, can't argue with that.

Let's hope if your interpretation is correct, that our subtle changes don't come unstuck in future weeks, requiring further subtle changes.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

This thread has enough rubbish in it that I went back to watch the game again the check I wasn't going crazy.

I have just finished the first half. So far - anyone that says we stopped running one off the ruck is kidding themselves. It has been incredibly consistent. It is the same as other weeks.
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Good on you Mccarry.

Some people are trying to tell me that the structures didn't change, they were just massaged or adjusted a bit, and now we are suddenly successful. "Thank God JT had the wisdom to adjust his structures are we said he should."

Ive seen the game twice now also.

A lot of people have seen the same subtle changes to the structure.

No one thought the structure was a bad idea, we just wanted it a little less dumbed down. That happened this week.

Anyhow thats my opinion, yours and others are different.

Fair enough, can't argue with that.

Let's hope if your interpretation is correct, that our subtle changes don't come unstuck in future weeks, requiring further subtle changes.

Same, what we need more than anything is consistency not a new plan every week.

 

[stryker]

From another thread -

Gasnier mentioned on Super Saturday, that JT send word out to the boys after half time telling them to " Play any way you like, but don't concede points."
Interesting i thought! :ugeek:

Yeah but we didnt change anything they say :roll

That ladies and gentlemen seems to be game set and match for this thread. Anyway I liked the way we played the other night. There was structure and there was free flowing footy. Fix the defence and we move forward.