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Por que no los dos?
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Por que no los dos?
upthetigers
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I knew this was your logic for making the 8 only being good enough. But it doesn't take away the fact that we don't have the cattle. You can live in la la land or be realistic about the situation we're in. We got to 9th off the back of Tedesco. Players like that can't be easily replaced.
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What new cattle are coming that will make next year different..?
happy_tiger
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Yes I can do the Lambada :smiley:
My Spanish ain't great (nor my English :laughing: ) Both would be nice , yes
I just worry a couple of those games we dropped that we shouldn't have are going to weigh very heavy on us
upthetigers
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Hooker and fullback were big issues for us and we've already plugged those holes midseason. Cleary is doing the best he can with what he has. I'll admit it was a bit disappointing losing to the Raiders like we did but we've been in pretty much every game this year. It wasn't that long ago that it was guaranteed other teams would score just before half time and we'd let in a few tries after letting one in because we had no mental resilience and couldn't play for the full 80\. There is a lot to like about the direction this club is taking.
happy_tiger
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Culture , Stability , team first mentality , ego free zone (well Robbie is a reformed egomaniac according to him )
Not tools ??
Are maybe they are rusty already and need replacing , maybe explains one particular recruit , tool of mass destruction perhaps ??
GNR4LIFE
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Im sure most will agree that our squad is stronger this year than in past years not trotting out the Rankin's, Lovett's and Siro's, yet suddenly its acceptable for us not to finish in the 8\. Acceptable for us not to finish in a finals series that accomodates half the teams in the competition for the 7th straight year
So if its acceptable this year because of the weak squad, when won't it be, considering this squad will pretty much be the squad for the next 3-4 years
So if its acceptable this year because of the weak squad, when won't it be, considering this squad will pretty much be the squad for the next 3-4 years
It's a tough run into the finals to be fair -we really needed to stack up in wins earlier in the year vs Parramatta and Newcastle, and get home against the Broncos, and the Roosters - Those losses will prove to be crucial.
Our tough run has gotten even tougher with teams expected to not be at the top of the table still with 2 games against us.
2 games vs Dragons.
2 games vs Rabbitohs
and don't forget -
1 game vs Raiders who seem to grow a 3rd leg against our mob.
My Assessment is we get as high as 22 points - three more wins and the bye.
We are going to need MINIMUM 5 wins and probably 6 wins and a MINIMUM of 26 points, and probably 28 points to make the 8 (due to bye changes this year, only 1 bye per team so the usual 28 point cut off drops down a bit)
We win against the Dogs, Manly and Newcastle IMHO - Manly and the dogs will have already clocked off, and the Knights are the only team in the comp who handle pressure worse than our mob does.
If we can turn the tide vs the Raiders, and they are out of finals contention, maybe - although it would be an almighty swing of form - we'd need then at LEAST a win each against either the Dragons or the Rabbits, or a brace of wins against either side.
Simply put, taking of my parochial Tigers Glasses for a moment - I just can't see where we'll get 5-6 wins from with out remaining games.
Our tough run has gotten even tougher with teams expected to not be at the top of the table still with 2 games against us.
2 games vs Dragons.
2 games vs Rabbitohs
and don't forget -
1 game vs Raiders who seem to grow a 3rd leg against our mob.
My Assessment is we get as high as 22 points - three more wins and the bye.
We are going to need MINIMUM 5 wins and probably 6 wins and a MINIMUM of 26 points, and probably 28 points to make the 8 (due to bye changes this year, only 1 bye per team so the usual 28 point cut off drops down a bit)
We win against the Dogs, Manly and Newcastle IMHO - Manly and the dogs will have already clocked off, and the Knights are the only team in the comp who handle pressure worse than our mob does.
If we can turn the tide vs the Raiders, and they are out of finals contention, maybe - although it would be an almighty swing of form - we'd need then at LEAST a win each against either the Dragons or the Rabbits, or a brace of wins against either side.
Simply put, taking of my parochial Tigers Glasses for a moment - I just can't see where we'll get 5-6 wins from with out remaining games.
happy_tiger
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They appeared far more mentally stronger until the last 40 v Canberra , an aberration hopefully
As for the Rankins etc , lets wait until we see who Fonua's replacement is …...
happy_tiger
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The magical long hair of wisdom speaks again
Few too many have been on that sprinkle dust ….... :wink:
I didn't take into account the Titans game to be fair, Happy - so there goes your wisdom argument out of the window. :smiley: :smiley: :mrgreen:
Even if that's penciled in as a win (and if we DONT win it we really don't deserve to play finals footy) and we still win the three games I've said, we still end up a game or two short.
Even if that's penciled in as a win (and if we DONT win it we really don't deserve to play finals footy) and we still win the three games I've said, we still end up a game or two short.
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A season without finals should always be considered a failure.
You think teams set goals at the beginning of the season aiming for 9th or 10th? Thats laughable.
All teams aim for finals football, even rubbish teams without a chance set these goals.
Running 9th is the minor premiership of the losers.
happy_tiger
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From what I've seen this season like other seasons the Titans don't role over and play dead and they won't fear us at all
If your using pencils make sure you bring an eraser , just to be sure , the old girl can only do so much , these blokes need to make a vow until seasons end and stick to it to the very end
Tiger_Steve
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14 + bye = 16
16 + must wins over Titans, Newcastle, Dogs, Manly = 24 (but too often we don’t win these games)
24 + one more win from 5 could get us there. 2 from 5 will get us there!
16 + must wins over Titans, Newcastle, Dogs, Manly = 24 (but too often we don’t win these games)
24 + one more win from 5 could get us there. 2 from 5 will get us there!
Im not sure that our squad is much stronger this year than when JT took over. Cleary replaced players we lost but we are still in the same position of not being able to attract quality players in their prime.
JT had - Tapau, Farah, Simona, Sironen, Woods, Galloway, Richards, Ava, Tedesco, Moses, JAC, Suli - just ones I could think of - all at his disposal during his tenure all players that are playing FG in other clubs and or were seasoned FGers.
Wouldnt say our recruits have outperformed or are any better than than those we have lost since that period.
JT had - Tapau, Farah, Simona, Sironen, Woods, Galloway, Richards, Ava, Tedesco, Moses, JAC, Suli - just ones I could think of - all at his disposal during his tenure all players that are playing FG in other clubs and or were seasoned FGers.
Wouldnt say our recruits have outperformed or are any better than than those we have lost since that period.
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Unrealistic comment re every teams goal is to make the finals,we know that every club wants to play finals football otherwise don't be in the NRL….realistic clubs know that to play finals you need a very competitive and hardened squad of NRL standard players..Its the affordability to purchase those type of players that becomes a hurdle on the way to finals football..as we have proven over again as other clubs have...
If the team was star studded and full of Cronks,Slaters etc and didn't make the finals,you would have to be bitterly disappointed,we don't have them and we have held our own for most games...finishing just outside the 8 and seeing the change in this team defensively and attitude wise,is not a failure for me..
Cairnstigers
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We hav 8 players off contract at the end of this year
That's 25% of the playing roster
Ivan would still have money in the bank (4-$450000) ?
Add that to the current contracts about to expire
+ C Sironen $ ?
We could have a healthy little stash
Now there is also the possibility of releasing or trading certain players
Eg Lolohea McQueen
So in reality we could sign up to 10 new players next year
The problem is the quality available and if they will move clubs or interstate
If a player does not want to leave another club or state for that matter why try to lay Blame on Ivan
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:blah :blah :blah :blah :blah :blah the only good culture is a winning culture..
