Reports Two Rabbitohs Players In Hospital

@tig_prmz said:
lol there are so many things that can go wrong post op

another article already mentioned that this is not OD

they've mentioned the drugs they've taken- maybe a new brand was used or something like that.

really shows how badly rugby league players are viewed if the first thought most people have is that there is something suspiscious going on.. not having a dig at you guys but if it was two random people in the street having these reactions, the docs and the medical staff would be crapping themselves rather than the blame being directed on the patients.

I'd say it's more likely than not given the scenario.
2 mates both having a reaction at the same time and place.

As has been said that time being 3am in the morning ads to the suspiciousness of it. Keep in mind that Mad Monday celebrations would have been in full swing a few hours earlier (or still going on at that time).
 
Nothing sus or dumb about two housemates being rushed to the hospital for the same reaction.
Drug and alcohol bender, sweep it under the rug though.

Laughable comments in this thread.
 
The true story will out.
Local dogs were barking. Neighbours report seeing a white flash just before that time.
Of course, they were abducted by aliens and dropped back to earth at the same moment, still under the effects of alien type sedatives.
Nothing unusual there.
 
i think i know what has happened :

Gray and Walker decided to both go home early from there Club celebrations as they only just had Surgery , on the way home they decided to get some Movies and grab a couple of Packets of Caramel Pop-corns . Maybe they are both Diabetic and forgot there insulin and there blood sugar sky rocketed from to much Popcorn and both passed out .
I dunno What else could it be ?
 
@tigerbalm said:
@tig_prmz said:
how is it dumb or suspiscious?

good luck to both of them.

Serious? It's very much both.

I'm not a Dr…but, reaction at 4am?

Let's say they had their correct, prescribed dose...together...at a reasonable time of 1030 pm. I mean, post op they probably should be resting so that's reasonable. Would it take 6 hours for this reaction? That they both simultaneously had on a widely prescribed, common pain killer.
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I would bet good money on them having a few drinks, kicking in some oxy at 3-4am to top the night off and complications starting from that. Souths are just trying to stay ahead of the media frenzy ala Arizona.

It will all come out.

Morons if true.

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I see the situation, like you do Tigerbalm. Mixing alcohol with pain killers gives you a better high,( so I've been told) but if you over do it, an overdose could occur.
 
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/nrl-stars-chilling-warning-a-player-is-going-to-die-from-prescription-drugs-20150922-gjs6q6.html

A player is going to die from prescription drugs."
Those words don't come from one person. They come from a current player, a chief executive and a leading player manager. They come as a warning, not an observation. With compassion, not judgment.
In serious condition: Dylan Walker was rushed to hospital on Tuesday morning.
In serious condition: Dylan Walker was rushed to hospital on Tuesday morning. Photo: Janie Barrett
Disturbingly, all three used the same words when contacted after news broke that Souths players Dylan Walker and Aaron Gray had been rushed to St Vincents hospital by ambulance on Tuesday morning in a serious condition following the use of prescription drugs.
The circumstances surrounding Walker and Gray's situation remains unclear. Souths released a statement on Tuesday morning, saying they had both undergone off-season surgery. There is no suggestion of wrongdoing at this stage.
Despite this, their story brings a wider issue into sharp focus.
Rugby league has a drug problem.
It is not cocaine, despite the charges that still hang over Gold Coast Titans players. It's not ecstasy or crystal meth. It stopped being about alcohol years ago. The problem is prescription drugs. Stillies, Oxies, Benzos … take your pick.
That's not being dramatic. It's being realistic, because those who deal with the issue on a daily basis are the ones who tell you.
On Tuesday, I spoke at length to a player who has been grappling with addiction to prescriptions. Of course, his anonymity needs to be protected. It's a day-to-day battle.
You soon learn, though, that you could be talking to any number of young footballers across the NRL when he tells you this: "It's a massive issue for the game. All my mates have done it, and I would say one in two players have used some sort of painkiller. I became so addicted to them. The NRL needs to do something about this."
In some respects, it is.
Last season, the NRL announced it would test for a range of prescription drugs - including Valium, Serepax, Mogadon and Rohypnol - amid widespread rumours of their use at the World Cup the previous year.
The tests were conducted for data-gathering purposes only – not to punish players – to determine the extent of the problem before determining if further action or sanctions were needed to stop their use.
If a positive test comes back, a confidential meeting between the NRL, the club doctor and the NRL's chief medical officer is established to determine why the player is taking the drug and whether he needs counselling or rehabilitation.
This column understands the number of positive results from last season were so small the NRL decided to extend the testing to increase the sample size.
It needs to press on because anecdotally the problem seems to have reached epidemic proportions. Last year, Warriors doctor John Mayhew – who was the long-time doctor of the All Blacks – described their use in the NRL as "widespread".
Channel Nine and Fairfax columnist Danny Weidler broke the story about Walker and Gray on Tuesday, revealing Walker's sister had said her brother had taken "oxycodone and Tramadol".
These are serious substances.
According to those who have used it, oxycodone has a similar effect to morphine. Colloquially, it is known as "hillbilly heroin". Tramadol is said to be the opiate of choice among league players at the moment.
Drugs like Xanax fall into the category of benzodiazepines – "benzos", as the players call it – and if you take enough of them you can hallucinate, seeing objects and people who aren't there.
"They are all from different families," explains one player. "But they have the same effect. And they all can ruin your life."
If you're a professional footballer, you must grapple with many dynamics throughout your career, but the toughest one is constant pain.
Some are introduced to painkillers and sleepers through their club, some through other players.
They all have different side-effects, especially when mixed with alcohol, but all have the same desired result: they change the channel when the rigors of playing a brutal contact sport are done for the week.
If the player is sidelined with injury, especially for a long time, he might want to change the channel more often.
He might get some of them from the club doctor, and then his family doctor, and then the black market via the internet.
He is not alone, too, because more players are turning to them. Whatever education is being delivered in the name of player welfare, it doesn't seem to be enough.
It is easy to cast judgment and wonder why a player would do anything to jeopardise his sporting career with such destructive substances.
But young footballers are more vulnerable than most as they strike to make the next tackle, the next play, the next game, the next contract.
"Prescription drugs changed my life," says our addicted player. "I didn't know how bad it got until it was too late."
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@NT Tiger said:
The true story will out.
Local dogs were barking. Neighbours report seeing a white flash just before that time.
Of course, they were abducted by aliens and dropped back to earth at the same moment, still under the effects of alien type sedatives.
Nothing unusual there.

Sounds quite a trip those boys had. :roll
Seriously, I'm glad they're doing ok, and hope they learn from this experience.
This time they were lucky. Next time maybe not.
 
i was speaking to a guy who's been a part of a the sports medicine team in a few sports and he said the use of sports medicine in the NRL is in a VERY BAD SHAPE. the nrl provides very little funding for things like trainers, physios, doctors etc compared to netball, union, AFL etc.

maybe it is OD as sabre suggested earlier but could quite possibly be due to them being ill adviced.
 
These guys should stick to the normal Peptides & Steroids that the league players usually use at this time of the year in foreign lands,what are they doing in Sydney experimenting with 'prescription' drugs.
Seriously,i hope they're OK,they have their whole lives ahead of them.
 
There is no doubt they were using Prescription Drugs and not using it the manner it was Prescribed .

If it happened to one of them you could say yeah maybe , but for it to happen to both of them at the same time ? you don't need to be Einstein to work it out .

On a Serious note , i'm glad the boys are in good hands and are O.K , it serves as a Warning to all those players that experiment with Prescription Drugs .
 
Ummm everyone knows you don't drink alcohol whist on medication…alergic reation mmm Ok....
 
The South Sydney Rabbitohs have confirmed Dylan Walker and Aaron Gray consumed more than the prescribed amount of two painkillers in the events that led to the two players being taken to intensive care on Tuesday morning.

The two players remained in hospital on Tuesday afternoon after suffering from serious side effects of strong painkillers, reported to be oxycodone and tramadol.
South Sydney Rabbitohs chief executive John Lee said both were prescribed certain pain killers from non-club medical specialists following post-season surgeries that were completed last Wednesday. Walker underwent an operation on his hand while his childhood friend, Gray, had surgery on his right knee.
Lee said Walker went to Gray's house on Monday night to watch movies before paramedics were later called to Gray's home in Rosebery early on Tuesday morning when the players became seriously ill.
"It will become clear that they had actually taken more than the regulated amount of prescribed medication," Lee said. "The consequence of that was that early in the morning a third person who was at the house noticed there were side effects including vomiting and other side effects which led to him to alert an ambulance, which was called to the house and the players were transported here to St Vincent's hospital."

Lee said there was no indication the two players consumed alcohol or any other substance on Monday night as well as the prescribed painkillers. Lee would not confirm if the players suffered from an overdose.

"They were prescribed a level of medication - and this is medication that is not taken for fun - this is medication that is taken for pain. It is becoming clear that they took too much of that medication. I'm not going to use emotional words, I'm not a medical professional to give you the right medical term. We will need to know what the toxicity information is as it becomes available and we will need to talk to the doctors and players at the time," he said. "[They took] two painkilling medications that were prescribed by the specialists, two different specialists."
Walker and Gray remained in a heavily sedated state but showed signs of improvement by later in the afternoon. They were deemed to be in a stable state while remaining in the intensive care unit.
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Professional wrestlers have been dying for yrs abusing prescription drugs. League players meeting the same fate wouldn't be a surprise.
 
Well I'm hoping that their club has a genuine good look at this event and offers counselling and drug education to both players. Sad.
 
Oxycodone, commonly referred to as Hillbilly Heroin, surprised that this would have been prescribed, maybe they knew it as Hillybilly Heroin and thought they'd be OK with one or two extra + some booze.
We have to remember that former Cronulla great Steve Rogers died from a combination of prescription drugs and alcohol, how good is the awareness of the side effects of combination?, Elvis wasn't a Junkie but prescription drugs killed him too, Doctor's need to be more accountable for what they dish out.
 
@bp tiger said:
GEE SOME PEOPLE ON HERE CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST EXCUSES, why would u be on the drink after surgery and that both end up nearly dead, bet they were taking more than what has been stated. wish people would stop sticking up for these players they know what they are doing stop giving them a free pass.

'why would you be on the drink'??

its post season, they probably had a beer or two a week after a surgery and didn't realise how badly it mixes with painkillers and whatnot.

its not like they walked out of the OR went to the star and got absolutely plastered with some ecstacy thrown in for good measure.

keeping in mind almost everything in this thread is pure speculation. innocent till proven guilty
 
I'm still not quite clear, from the SMH article, why the NRL needs to clean up prescription drug abuse. They are already testing for it, why is it your employer's job to stop you being a DH?
 
@tigerbalm said:
Serious? It's very much both.

I'm not a Dr…but, reaction at 4am?

Let's say they had their correct, prescribed dose...together...at a reasonable time of 1030 pm. I mean, post op they probably should be resting so that's reasonable. Would it take 6 hours for this reaction? That they both simultaneously had on a widely prescribed, common pain killer.
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I would bet good money on them having a few drinks, kicking in some oxy at 3-4am to top the night off and complications starting from that. Souths are just trying to stay ahead of the media frenzy ala Arizona.

It will all come out.

Morons if true.

Taken pain killer before sleeping for the night. Woken up at 4am in a heap of pain and have taken too many painkillers. Not inplausible.
 
Morons for sure. Souths CEO confirmed this without actually using the word moron, but gee he must have been tempted
 

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