Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[cqtiger]

It is not hearsay when or if they are sworn in at court. Judges are pretty good at sorting out the truth.

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Yeah like all Man Monis court appearances prior to the siege. Lol

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[goldcoast_tiger]

Farah has a contract…wow...Galloway had a contract too ..was told to look elsewhere for a while....did so and moved on with dignity.... In fact the list of players who have contracts with other Clubs and been moved on before they expired is endless in recent times,,,

For whatever reason...rightly or wrongly Robbie Farah has been told to look elsewhere... just do so .... Be remembered as the Legend you are not the Pariah you are becoming...

As for those already writing of next Year well 15th 13th and 15th were so much better with Farah....2016 just may surprise a few experts...

Galloway made his decision as to whether it suited him to go, and Robbie has the right to do the same.
The factors that suited Sauce are not the same as the situation that Farahs in.
As had been said before, his business is , I think ,in Concord,
And he has a lot of family nearby, and probably both those factors were probably a big part of the reasons why he signed his last contract.
Both Galloway and Robbie have the right to decide how a move is going to affect their futures. They came up with different decisions, based on different reasons.
This has got nothing with dignity. It's about fulfilling committments to contracts that anyone has signed.

If the club don't want him , ( and I'm excluding the players , as it seems the rumours that were circulated about friction, were way off the mark)
Then pay him out, along with the money that he basically loaned the club, when they were in strife with payments,
No point in crying poor mouth. This was instigated by a failed Coach, , who maybe should have first found out if they could afford to pay Farah out , if he didn't want to go, rather than throwing threats around and inflaming the situation, and ensuring that any normal solution could not be reached.

Taylors dug his own grave as far as Coaching another club is unless he finds another scapegoat for his failures

 

[Geo]

Farah has a contract…wow...Galloway had a contract too ..was told to look elsewhere for a while....did so and moved on with dignity.... In fact the list of players who have contracts with other Clubs and been moved on before they expired is endless in recent times,,,

For whatever reason...rightly or wrongly Robbie Farah has been told to look elsewhere... just do so .... Be remembered as the Legend you are not the Pariah you are becoming...

As for those already writing of next Year well 15th 13th and 15th were so much better with Farah....2016 just may surprise a few experts...

That all depends on circumstances, perhaps Keithi is getting more in the UK? You just can't assume that one solution fits all, $2 million we are talking about a different kettle of fish? Besides based on reasoning for moving Farah on, are there any clubs interested? Once again circumstances

This is a good point you make ….Wests Tigers have stated publicly that they will meet their financial obligations in terms of his contract... you would also think rival Clubs would be queuing up around the block with offers to Slamin Sam to pick him up for the relative cost of a pie and a coke....It appears though they are not...hence the impasse....makes you wonder though....

 

[cktiger]

Farah has a contract…wow...Galloway had a contract too ..was told to look elsewhere for a while....did so and moved on with dignity.... In fact the list of players who have contracts with other Clubs and been moved on before they expired is endless in recent times,,,

For whatever reason...rightly or wrongly Robbie Farah has been told to look elsewhere... just do so .... Be remembered as the Legend you are not the Pariah you are becoming...

As for those already writing of next Year well 15th 13th and 15th were so much better with Farah....2016 just may surprise a few experts...

That all depends on circumstances, perhaps Keithi is getting more in the UK? You just can't assume that one solution fits all, $2 million we are talking about a different kettle of fish? Besides based on reasoning for moving Farah on, are there any clubs interested? Once again circumstances

This is a good point you make ….Wests Tigers have **stated publicly that they will meet their financial obligations in terms of his contract...** you would also think rival Clubs would be queuing up around the block with offers to Slamin Sam to pick him up for the relative cost of a pie and a coke....It appears though they are not...hence the impasse....makes you wonder though....

That's the point Geo , they have no options anyway.
He signed a contract and he is entitled to his money - unless he were to break the terms of the contract himself.
All the options are with Farah.
If he decides to stay (and possibly play park football) they have to pay him the 2 million.
If he decides to go to another club for $100,000 we pick up the remaining 1.9 million to have him play against us.
I'm pretty sure that another club would not be able to include him in their cap for a miniscule amount though - due to his real worth it would be akin to rorting the system (someone can correct me if that's not the case)
He may have had offers, who knows?
Maybe he just wants to remain a Tiger.

 

[tig_prmz]

Farah has a contract…wow...Galloway had a contract too ..was told to look elsewhere for a while....did so and moved on with dignity.... In fact the list of players who have contracts with other Clubs and been moved on before they expired is endless in recent times,,,

For whatever reason...rightly or wrongly Robbie Farah has been told to look elsewhere... just do so .... Be remembered as the Legend you are not the Pariah you are becoming...

As for those already writing of next Year well 15th 13th and 15th were so much better with Farah....2016 just may surprise a few experts...

good point, galloway has been at the club almost 10 years too, played for aus and nsw. a good rep player.

obvioulsly not as influencial but probably the best prop to play for us in our first decade and a half.

 

[gallagher]

Some kind of deal (e.g. a full payout) to end the saga is possible-but that would require Farah's agreement which he presently doesn't look like giving! He has every right to stay if that's what he wants to do. Marina Go has acknowledged the club has to meet its contractual obligations to Farah and will be doing so. Clearly the club has no evidence of any breach/s by Farah that could be relied on to terminate his deal. Trying to unilaterally engraft this insulting "probationary" nonsense onto Farah's deal at this late stage, particularly after being earlier put on notice of a possible claim of procedural unfairness, is frankly, a rather dumb thing to do!

Why would he have to agree to a full pay out? There's your money and there's the door. That would be the end of it.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Farah has a contract…wow...Galloway had a contract too ..was told to look elsewhere for a while....did so and moved on with dignity.... In fact the list of players who have contracts with other Clubs and been moved on before they expired is endless in recent times,,,

For whatever reason...rightly or wrongly Robbie Farah has been told to look elsewhere... just do so .... Be remembered as the Legend you are not the Pariah you are becoming...

As for those already writing of next Year well 15th 13th and 15th were so much better with Farah....2016 just may surprise a few experts...

That all depends on circumstances, perhaps Keithi is getting more in the UK? You just can't assume that one solution fits all, $2 million we are talking about a different kettle of fish? Besides based on reasoning for moving Farah on, are there any clubs interested? Once again circumstances

This is a good point you make ….Wests Tigers have **stated publicly that they will meet their financial obligations in terms of his contract...** you would also think rival Clubs would be queuing up around the block with offers to Slamin Sam to pick him up for the relative cost of a pie and a coke....It appears though they are not...hence the impasse....makes you wonder though....

That's the point Geo , they have no options anyway.
He signed a contract and he is entitled to his money - unless he were to break the terms of the contract himself.
All the options are with Farah.
If he decides to stay (and possibly play park football) they have to pay him the 2 million.
If he decides to go to another club for $100,000 we pick up the remaining 1.9 million to have him play against us.
I'm pretty sure that another club would not be able to include him in their cap for a miniscule amount though - due to his real worth it would be akin to rorting the system (someone can correct me if that's not the case)
He may have had offers, who knows?
Maybe he just wants to remain a Tiger.

If he went to another club he can be in their cap for minimum wage if that’s what they pay him, the rest would be under our cap, however he would require a release so another club can’t pick him up for $100,000 if the WT don’t agree to it, the club that gives the release must agree with the amount they will still have to pay under the cap.
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Same as the position with Moltzen and the Dragons, he was given permission to negotiate with other clubs but he signed with the Dragons without getting the release from the WT.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Farah stays = Taylor is gone

Farah is paid out $2.1m owing = Taylor is gone - money is counted in cap so no big name players.

 

[Geo]

Farah stays = Taylor is gone

Farah is paid out $2.1m owing = Taylor is gone - money is counted in cap so no big name players.

Is this Official…?

 

[Newtown]

Farah stays = Taylor is gone

Farah is paid out $2.1m owing = Taylor is gone - money is counted in cap so no big name players.

Is this a possible scenario or has it happened?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Despite the disgraceful manner in which Farah is being treated, there is a sliver lining.

 

[everett]

If Farah stays and Taylor goes would Robbie take on captain/coach role.

Last player to try it I believe was Wally Lewis and it did not end well.

As much as I respect and admire Farah except for a couple of games this year I thought he was slow and providing little from dummy half. He is over 30 years old.

Whatever happens we need this to be resolved before 9 November when pre season training begins otherwise this will hang over the players and clubs heads which is not a good thing.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I am no lawyer, but if the club pays him the owed contract amount cant they then terminate the contract?

Personally I can only see this as a solution based on the current circumstances.

Probably, but what can we pay him out with? We supposedly have NO money, remember. At least, that's all I ever hear them say.

Just makes it all the more stupid to let the coach put themselves in the position , where there is even the possibility of legal action.
This was something that shouldn't even been contemplated unless they were completely assured of the outcome. To do this and have it blown up by the coach is one of the most incompetent acts that I've seen in a long while, and to have a Nuffie like Reddy involved in the threats against Farah was just ludicrous.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]


Player manager Sam Ayoub, right, leaves Campsie police station in Sydney's west with his lawyer after being charged.

Was he convicted of anything. ??

Just interested.

No one know??????

 

[NT_Tiger]

I am no lawyer, but if the club pays him the owed contract amount cant they then terminate the contract?

Personally I can only see this as a solution based on the current circumstances.

Probably, but what can we pay him out with? We supposedly have NO money, remember. At least, that's all I ever hear them say.

Just makes it all the more stupid to let the coach put themselves in the position , where there is even the possibility of legal action.
This was something that shouldn't even been contemplated unless they were completely assured of the outcome. To do this and have it blown up by the coach is one of the most incompetent acts that I've seen in a long while, and to have a Nuffie like Reddy involved in the threats against Farah was just ludicrous.

Yeah, You really don't want a coach that puts themselves in this position by standing up to players that they don't want in the team. Let's stick with the mediocrity!
To have this blown up by a player should have been predicted due to his history of this kind of thing.

 

[sheer64]

I am no lawyer, but if the club pays him the owed contract amount cant they then terminate the contract?

Personally I can only see this as a solution based on the current circumstances.

Probably, but what can we pay him out with? We supposedly have NO money, remember. At least, that's all I ever hear them say.

Just makes it all the more stupid to let the coach put themselves in the position , where there is even the possibility of legal action.
This was something that shouldn't even been contemplated unless they were completely assured of the outcome. To do this and have it blown up by the coach is one of the most incompetent acts that I've seen in a long while, and to have a Nuffie like Reddy involved in the threats against Farah was just ludicrous.

Yeah, You really don't want a coach that puts themselves in this position by standing up to players that they don't want in the team. **Let's stick with the mediocrity!**
To have this blown up by a player should have been predicted due to his history of this kind of thing.

We are Taylor is staying!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

As far as any other clubs picking him up( including the ones who are in Sydney. ) does any one have a reasonable idea of how much the club would let him go for.
For example if another club could get him for 200,000, we'd still pay out somewhere about 700,000, or 1400,000for two years. FOR NO return
That's still a tub full of money.
And the club has the whole NRL laughing at them .
The way it is we only save 200,000 over each year of his contract( if those figures are anywhere near , what any other club could afford to pay.)
The club may have an unrealistic idea of what is possible for those clubs at this time, and be trying to get a bigger amount of his contract paid.
If they wanted him out so bad, you would think that a cost of 400,000, over two years , would be worth paying out his contract in full.
I don't know what the figures really are, but I know that if I was a CEO of any other club and was interested, I would screw WTs to the basement floor to get him,
If the club didn't agree to a bargain figure, I wouldn't care less as they all have Hookers on mid to long term contracts already.
To pay him out on those figures would cost 400,000 more over two years than to try and sell him off.and the non coach gets his way , there's something weird about this whole thing.

 

[Curaeus]

Whilst a payout is theoretically possible, fact is we don't have 2 cents much less 2 million bucks available to make it happen

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Whilst a payout is theoretically possible, fact is we don't have 2 cents much less 2 million bucks available to make it happen

While you're probably right, how do we then pay the biggest part of his contract while he plays for another club? And we still have to replace him.
And if it does go down the legal track, ( and I still don't think it will ). that couple of hundred thousand that we save on paying out Robbie won't go far once the bloodsuckers start playing in the money pit.
It makes you wonder, just how financially stable this club really is. It doesn't matter which side of the debate you are on , something smells fishy about it all

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I am no lawyer, but if the club pays him the owed contract amount cant they then terminate the contract?

Personally I can only see this as a solution based on the current circumstances.

Probably, but what can we pay him out with? We supposedly have NO money, remember. At least, that's all I ever hear them say.

Just makes it all the more stupid to let the coach put themselves in the position , where there is even the possibility of legal action.
This was something that shouldn't even been contemplated unless they were completely assured of the outcome. To do this and have it blown up by the coach is one of the most incompetent acts that I've seen in a long while, and to have a Nuffie like Reddy involved in the threats against Farah was just ludicrous.

Yeah, You really don't want a coach that puts themselves in this position by standing up to players that they don't want in the team. Let's stick with the mediocrity!
To have this blown up by a player should have been predicted due to his history of this kind of thing.

You don't want a coach that lets his personal insecurity and dislikes put the club in a position that they are the laughing stock of the league, when , if handled better, may have have had a better result. Without all the drama.
And a better financial,result all round. And a better result on the field.
Taylor should have made sure that he could actually get a result from the problems that he has landed the club with, before opening his mouth.
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