Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Tigersmurf]

Maybe they are still looking for the Page 3 girl….

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/benji-marshall-lifts-lid-on-robbie-farah-and-wests-tigers-drama/story-fniabr47-1227508713677
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Marshall said Farah deserved to be treated better and expected him to dig his heels in and fight for his spot next season.

“We both (took pay cuts). In 2012 the club came to us and said they were going to be ‘X’ amount over the cap,” Marshall said. “In 2012 I think I took an $80,000 pay cut and Robbie took a $200,000 pay cut for two years in a row.

“When I agreed to a five-year deal after that year, that was going to be back-ended and added onto my contract. The same thing happened with Robbie.

“Everyone looks at (Farah’s) price tag and sees $950,000 and says, ‘Well he’s not worth 950.’ Well it’s really 750 and the 200 he took off three or four years ago to keep the club afloat.

“That’s how much the club means to the bloke and that’s how much it meant to me. We were willing to give up our money to keep the club under the cap.”

That's again just what they have said , I don't see a black and white contract ….

Why what until you are leaving to bring it up ?? Strange don't you think ??

There is one major flaw in that whole Benji Marshall claim Paws…

In 2009 Farah signed a 4 year extension worth around $400,000 per year covering the years 2010 to 2013, if Farah took a pay cut for 2012 and 2013 for the salary cap, the original contract would have to be terminated and a new contract at the reduced amount signed and registered with the NRL.

It is very doubtful the NRL would accept and register a new deal at the reduced amount of supposedly just $200,000 per year under the figures mentioned by Marshall, well it’s not doubtful, the NRL certainly would not have registered it.

Backended deals

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/why-back-ended-deals-like-robbie-farahs-are-threatening-to-end-the-nrl-era-of-the-one-club-player/story-e6frf3wu-1227501137604

Why do I bother :unamused:

 

[happy_tiger]

That's again just what they have said , I don't see a black and white contract ….

Why what until you are leaving to bring it up ?? Strange don't you think ??

There is one major flaw in that whole Benji Marshall claim Paws…

In 2009 Farah signed a 4 year extension worth around $400,000 per year covering the years 2010 to 2013, if Farah took a pay cut for 2012 and 2013 for the salary cap, the original contract would have to be terminated and a new contract at the reduced amount signed and registered with the NRL.

It is very doubtful the NRL would accept and register a new deal at the reduced amount of supposedly just $200,000 per year under the figures mentioned by Marshall, well it’s not doubtful, the NRL certainly would not have registered it.

Backended deals

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/why-back-ended-deals-like-robbie-farahs-are-threatening-to-end-the-nrl-era-of-the-one-club-player/story-e6frf3wu-1227501137604

Why do I bother :unamused:

Don't worry PP , Lindy Chamberlain once said "that rumours circle the Earth before the truth gets a chance to put its shoes on "

 

[happy_tiger]

I hope so too - that's I commented earlier bring out the silver cutlery…and even the dancing girls in gold and black now that Robbie Farah is back, Robbie, hit them high hit them low and one extra for Justin Pascoe

Hahaha, Love it… :smiley:

Don't get too excited BBF , I reckon the Saints might still be a big show

 

[Pawsandclaws]

That's again just what they have said , I don't see a black and white contract ….

Why what until you are leaving to bring it up ?? Strange don't you think ??

There is one major flaw in that whole Benji Marshall claim Paws…

In 2009 Farah signed a 4 year extension worth around $400,000 per year covering the years 2010 to 2013, if Farah took a pay cut for 2012 and 2013 for the salary cap, the original contract would have to be terminated and a new contract at the reduced amount signed and registered with the NRL.

It is very doubtful the NRL would accept and register a new deal at the reduced amount of supposedly just $200,000 per year under the figures mentioned by Marshall, well it’s not doubtful, the NRL certainly would not have registered it.

Backended deals

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/why-back-ended-deals-like-robbie-farahs-are-threatening-to-end-the-nrl-era-of-the-one-club-player/story-e6frf3wu-1227501137604

Why do I bother :unamused:

PPM - Marshall's comments are in the article. Are you saying what he said is not true? Yes or no answer.

Happy Tiger, I am still waiting for your yes or no answer. Provide it please.

 

[happy_tiger]

There is one major flaw in that whole Benji Marshall claim Paws…

In 2009 Farah signed a 4 year extension worth around $400,000 per year covering the years 2010 to 2013, if Farah took a pay cut for 2012 and 2013 for the salary cap, the original contract would have to be terminated and a new contract at the reduced amount signed and registered with the NRL.

It is very doubtful the NRL would accept and register a new deal at the reduced amount of supposedly just $200,000 per year under the figures mentioned by Marshall, well it’s not doubtful, the NRL certainly would not have registered it.

Backended deals

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/why-back-ended-deals-like-robbie-farahs-are-threatening-to-end-the-nrl-era-of-the-one-club-player/story-e6frf3wu-1227501137604

Why do I bother :unamused:

PPM - Marshall's comments are in the article. Are you saying what he said is not true? Yes or no answer.

Happy Tiger, I am still waiting for your yes or no answer. Provide it please.

I think they are probably full of it

They wouldn't know the truth if it jumped on their faces and wiggled

 

[Tbone]

Backended deals

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/why-back-ended-deals-like-robbie-farahs-are-threatening-to-end-the-nrl-era-of-the-one-club-player/story-e6frf3wu-1227501137604

Why do I bother :unamused:

PPM - Marshall's comments are in the article. Are you saying what he said is not true? Yes or no answer.

Happy Tiger, I am still waiting for your yes or no answer. Provide it please.

I think they are probably full of it

They wouldn't know the truth if it jumped on their faces and wiggled

How dare you impugn the integrity of Benji "I'll never play against the Tigers" Marshall?!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

They're far from credible, so why would you need to debunk them? Same way we pay no attention to anything to Telerag pushes out.

Hahaha
Only an idiot thinks clubs are worried about things germs like Rothfield Weidler etc say…....
Still so gullible...only blokes like Ayoub use these germs

Sorry to repeat so early - but in Lidcombe in one outlet the DT outsells the SMH by about 60-1? Are the readers voting with their purchase, and they are footie lovers

There's plenty of idiots out there.

CB seeing as you seem to be a self nominated expert on how the club thinks, and how they don't worry about unfounded stories, maybe you could settle my curiosity??
If what you say is true, and the club ignores those kind of stories
eg: 1\. That the Backloading of Farahs and Marshalls money did happen
(A fact that no one , as far as I know has questioned until the last few days) and nowhere else except on here.
2\. That Taylor and/ or Reddy threatened Farah.

3: that Farah was offered a new 4 yr playing :unamused: contract

Oops that's right, they DID refute that very quickly , that that was what had happened in the case of question. 3.
However statements 1and 2( which were central to a lot of the anger felt towards the club ). There has been a deathly silence, except a couple of mentions from Taylor and the CEO , that back ending was a big part of the problems that plague the club.

Wouldn't you concede that if the Backloading of Farahs and Marshalls contract and the stupid threats attributed to the Coach and Reddy , were the figments of a journo's mind, that they would be yelling at the top of their voice that it was all wrong.
(Just like they rightfully did when the incorrect story of a new playing contract surfaced.
So why , has the clu b has never once denied the money that Farah and Marshall deferred till the contracts ended. Or the threats, it would stop at least some of the ill feeling towards the club if they did.
Would you agree that they've made no denials is because both reports were factual. ??

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Pascoe acknowledged the reserve grade comment by Reddy GCT. Reddy has since been sacked.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

CB seeing as you seem to be a self nominated expert on how the club thinks, and how they don't worry about unfounded stories, maybe you could settle my curiosity??
If what you say is true, and the club ignores those kind of stories
eg: 1\. That the Backloading of Farahs and Marshalls money did happen
(A fact that no one , as far as I know has questioned until the last few days) and nowhere else except on here.
2\. That Taylor and/ or Reddy threatened Farah.

3: that Farah was offered a new 4 yr playing :unamused: contract

Oops that's right, they DID refute very quickly , that that was what had happened in the case of question. 3.
However statements 1and 2( which were central to a lot of the anger felt towards the club ). There has been a deathly silence, except a couple of mentions from Taylor and the CEO , that back ending was a big part of the problems that plague the club.

Wouldn't you concede that if the Backloading of Farahs and Marshalls contract and the stupid threats attributed to the Coach and Reddy , were the figments of a journo's mind, that they would be yelling at the top of their voice that it was all wrong.
(Just like they rightfully did when the incorrect story of a new playing contract surfaced.
So why , has the clu b has never once denied the money that Farah and Marshall deferred till the contracts ended. Or the threats, it would stop at least some of the ill feeling towards the club if they did.
Would you agree that they've made no denials is because both reports were factual. ??

Au contraire, the club did admit that someone made the comment to Farah about reserve grade (in fact I believe Pawsandclaws said that Pascoe admitted to it in a radio interview.) So they did in fact come clean on it.

As for backloading money, we're not the only club that does it, nor are we the only ones who land ourselves in the proverbial. Reporting on clubs landing themselves in the crap with backloaded contracts is like reporting that the sky is blue. Half a dozen clubs are likely in the same strife as we are. That being said, I don't ever recall any club discussing the ins and outs of player contracts as they are generally confidential.

With all things being equal I could apply the same poor standard of reporting on the other side of the fence to Ayoub. As far as reporting goes what about his dossier of dirt? Where'd that go? Was that just crap to stir the pot? A large part of the crap reported in the media is simply not worth responding to, it would be a full time job in itself to have a media administrator confirm and refute stuff in the media.

So based on the above, yes they have both confirmed and refuted rumours, but they do it at their discretion. News Limited will report (and I use the term "report" verrrrrrrry loosely,) whatever sells the paper. We're talking about a newspaper that hired Rebecca Wilson, who was sucked in by a bunch of Roosters fans into reporting a fictional story about a Swans player that never happened and was caught out on it. The only time the Telegraph are on the front foot is when it suits someone's agenda and needs something out in the media. Ayoub leaking Farah's release would have been the first genuine break for them regarding Wests Tigers for the longest time.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Pascoe acknowledged the reserve grade comment by Reddy GCT. Reddy has since been sacked.

Exactly, and they did the right thing
That's what I'm getting at.
They refuted the wrong info about the 4 yr contract , and it would be in the clubs best interest to deny that there was ever money deferred by Marshall anD Farah( if that was the case
And I agree that the club won't talk about players contract money but that's not the case here. ( if the deniers are correct) the money doesn't exist.so it can't be a part of Any contract.
The fact that Farah was prepared to defer money is one reason that people feel that the club is unappreciative toward him. ( rightly or wrongly)
It's a simple thing , to do what they've done about the other rumour, so I don't doubt that if there was any question about the extra money owed, it would have come out long ago.

Imagine the uproar among the Farah bashers even if there was an ounce of evidence that it was a made up story.
Instead , the only place I've heard it , is through a few in the basher section , and it has. been picked up by a few of the followers.
Funny that the press. ( good or bad) don't know anything about it
Someone's mind is working overtime? I think

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Pascoe acknowledged the reserve grade comment by Reddy GCT. Reddy has since been sacked.

Exactly, and they did the right thing

Is that an acknowledgment that you got it wrong?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Pascoe acknowledged the reserve grade comment by Reddy GCT. Reddy has since been sacked.

Exactly, and they did the right thing

Is that an acknowledgment that you got it wrong?

Your right on one thing. I shouldn't have included the last two questions together
Like you I do believe that that was the most likely reason that reddy was dumped, although I never saw that stated that plainly . It just strengthens what I said
They did acknowledge it , and they refuted the one about the new playing contract.
So why wouldn't they refute the well publicised story about the money deferred if
It wasn't true.
It doesn't make sense

It's much more important in the big picture than a journo's wrong assumptions
Until the club denies that they owed them extra money, I think I will believe the first hand quotes from the players involved , rather than some theories picked out of the air with no backup of facts whatsoever

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Maybe they are still looking for the Page 3 girl….

Wherever did she go ??

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

You ARE special…..

Last I looked anything Rugby League was but a mere few pages in either of these papers.
To remotely suggest one sells more so it MUST be some kind of NRL bible is ridiculous....

Furthermore, Hell of a long way from Byron Bay to get the paper in Lidcombe....

The roads better now though!

 

[Geo]

Pascoe acknowledged the reserve grade comment by Reddy GCT. Reddy has since been sacked.

Exactly, and they did the right thing

Is that an acknowledgment that you got it wrong?

Your right on one thing. I shouldn't have included the last two questions together
Like you I do believe that that was the most likely reason that reddy was dumped, although I never saw that stated that plainly . It just strengthens what I said
They did acknowledge it , and they refuted the one about the new playing contract.
So why wouldn't they refute the well publicised story about the money deferred if
It wasn't true.
It doesn't make sense

It's much more important in the big picture than a journo's wrong assumptions
Until the club denies that they owed them extra money, I think I will believe the first hand quotes from the players involved , rather than some theories picked out of the air with no backup of facts whatsoever

Because Clubs..any Club do not discuss player contracts in the media…it is private and confidential between player and Club....it is why when Salaries are discussed it is prefaced with...The Daily Telegraph can reveal or this column understands or a source close to the Club or it is believed that or this column is aware....

If you added up the salaries reported in the media when players sign what they are reportedly on every club would be millions over the salary cap....

There is no doubt Farah's contract is backloaded the Club has said as much as to the terms conditions etc they would be between the player and the Club....As for the Benji Marshall comment which all this seems to hinge...I very much doubt they would be sitting around discussing the details of their contracts with each other...

The Club needs to deny nothing...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Exactly, and they did the right thing

Is that an acknowledgment that you got it wrong?

Your right on one thing. I shouldn't have included the last two questions together
Like you I do believe that that was the most likely reason that reddy was dumped, although I never saw that stated that plainly . It just strengthens what I said
They did acknowledge it , and they refuted the one about the new playing contract.
So why wouldn't they refute the well publicised story about the money deferred if
It wasn't true.
It doesn't make sense

It's much more important in the big picture than a journo's wrong assumptions
Until the club denies that they owed them extra money, I think I will believe the first hand quotes from the players involved , rather than some theories picked out of the air with no backup of facts whatsoever

Because Clubs..any Club do not discuss player contracts in the media…it is private and confidential between player and Club....it is why when Salaries are discussed it is prefaced with...The Daily Telegraph can reveal or this column understands or a source close to the Club or it is believed that or this column is aware....

If you added up the salaries reported in the media when players sign what they are reportedly on every club would be millions over the salary cap....

There is no doubt Farah's contract is backloaded the Club has said as much as to the terms conditions etc they would be between the player and the Club....As for the Benji Marshall comment which all this seems to hinge...I very much doubt they would be sitting around discussing the details of their contracts with each other...

The Club needs to deny nothing...

Pretty much sums up what I said Geo, he'll probably scroll past it though because it doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[diedpretty]

You ARE special…..

Last I looked anything Rugby League was but a mere few pages in either of these papers.
To remotely suggest one sells more so it MUST be some kind of NRL bible is ridiculous....

Furthermore, Hell of a long way from Byron Bay to get the paper in Lidcombe....

The roads better now though!

You obviously haven't driven on it recently.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

You ARE special…..

Last I looked anything Rugby League was but a mere few pages in either of these papers.
To remotely suggest one sells more so it MUST be some kind of NRL bible is ridiculous....

Furthermore, Hell of a long way from Byron Bay to get the paper in Lidcombe....

Well the sports journalist the anti-Farah brigade here hate are mainly from the DT and it is those whom are mainly read by the RL faithful. The journalist may not be correct but they get read more.

I still have Maggie-territory connections in LIdcombe going back 50 years so down there few times a year. I have to buy the SMH real early, by 6.30am as only one copy.

 

[cktiger]

Exactly, and they did the right thing

Is that an acknowledgment that you got it wrong?

Your right on one thing. I shouldn't have included the last two questions together
Like you I do believe that that was the most likely reason that reddy was dumped, although I never saw that stated that plainly . It just strengthens what I said
They did acknowledge it , and they refuted the one about the new playing contract.
So why wouldn't they refute the well publicised story about the money deferred if
It wasn't true.
It doesn't make sense

It's much more important in the big picture than a journo's wrong assumptions
Until the club denies that they owed them extra money, I think I will believe the first hand quotes from the players involved , rather than some theories picked out of the air with no backup of facts whatsoever

Because Clubs..any Club do not discuss player contracts in the media…it is private and confidential between player and Club....it is why when Salaries are discussed it is prefaced with...The Daily Telegraph can reveal or this column understands or a source close to the Club or it is believed that or this column is aware....

If you added up the salaries reported in the media when players sign what they are reportedly on every club would be millions over the salary cap....

There is no doubt Farah's contract is backloaded the Club has said as much as to the terms conditions etc they would be between the player and the Club....As for the Benji Marshall comment which all this seems to hinge...I very much doubt they would be sitting around discussing the details of their contracts with each other...

**The Club needs to deny nothing.**..

Well, in this case they couldn't deny it even if they wanted to - it's been bought up by every Tom, Dick and Harry and is obviously the truth.
Typical bad case of handling the finances by the Tigers…. and they won't deny that now, either.