Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Tigermama]

lol you're the one saying it's farah vs taylor.

you think it's all taylor making these calls?

admittedly, idk how stuff like this works though so why dont you enlighten me?

When power plays in any organisation take place the warfare is dirty. Do you think the billionaires of the world got to where they are because they are nice people?

Taylor sold a mentality of how he would turn the club around. Version 1 hasnt worked so he used a different tact to buy himself time. Farah was outplayed on a management level in the boardroom. His recourse is to use emotion through the media. Its all a game.

I would suggest the end result will be Taylor will get the squad he asked for (young talent with malleable minds) however it will be without the spare cash to buy experienced talent and Farah will get a huge payday with a spot on a better roster, however his dream of being a one club player will be over.

Had this been handled better they both would have got what they wanted with a lessened negative impact to their respective goals.

That's exactly how it works in the corporate world and outside of it too. Good post Styker.
I'm personally saddened that this is happening and I'm extremely disappointed the club won't let a club legend finish off his career, with the one and only club he's ever loved.
It seems all the sacrifices Robbie has made for the club, the pain he endured over the 13 seasons he's been with us, the blood and tears he shed, all the highs and lows of captaining this dysfunctional club, means nothing to JT, Board or whoever is responsible for this fiasco.
I wish Robbie all good things for his future, no matter what the outcome of this sad state of affairs is. :frowning:

 

[Tigermama]

Farah is using the only thing he can to protect himself and that is the media and the fans. The coach won't back him and the board is backing the coach. The guy wants to stay and retire as the first one club player. He doesn't want to wear any other clubs colours in Australia.

It's also important to note that there are no quotes from the media from Farah, they're just rehashing the same drama because it's the biggest story at the current moment. Robbie hasn't changed his story and I think he's owed the respect for an explanation of why this is all happening and not just sold BS salary cap reasons from the board. Especially because of the amount of money the club will need to pay to move him on would be basically pointless and we would still be paying a huge chunk of his salary for the next year or two anyway.

Honestly, the way he has been treated has made me question the integrity of this club big time. It's not his fault that the previous admin back ended his deal which he agreed to to help the club out in the first place.

Keep digging your heels in Robbie!

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Absolutely… :supporter:

 

[Tigermama]

Go's partner seemed to join a WTs Facebook fan pages… Decided to corrct a fans statement
Not good at all... Though some seem to take delight in it

What did he say? Not very professional

Nothing we didnt already know really…mainly that the farah decision was the coaching staff and not the boards, who have given JT complete authority on these issues

I think he was responding to someone who suggested the board were paid, he clarified they werent paid, as it was only his words its hard to gauge the context.

Still....he shouldnt be commenting at all I think

Its in this thread somewhere the last few pages

Lol… I hope Marina gave her hubby a good, hard spanking when she got home and grounded him from using facebook :laughing:

 

[Telltails]

A lot of people are jumping on the "Farah is a divisive force according to Taylor" stuff- but that is all assumption. I've not heard JT say anything like that- have you?

I think that Farah holds a certain amount of sway over the players. And I think when a new coach, with big changes in mind, comes in- he has to have the playing group in his hand- not have their senior players being more influential.

I'm not convinced there is a massive issue between Taylor & Farah, but there looks to certainly be some kind of 'power play' between the two- and I'd say it's due to Taylor feeling he needs the playing group influenced by him mostly. Wouldn't that be what most coaches look for?

I can believe that Farah would be… a strong personality. I'd say his influence on the club increased dramatically after Benji left (who was the clubs most notable player while here).

New team. New culture. I'm glad the board is backing Taylor. I don't think pushing Farah out of the club is the worst decision ever. Things didn't turn around completely this season- no argument there. But I think all of us, no matter how much you like/dislike JT, can see that there is a 'plan' in place to make the club more 'structured' & less ad-lib. I was just thinking last night- the Tigers are the Australian version of the Warriors. That's not a compliment. they can beat anyone, when they like. But more often than not- find ways to lose.

Personally, I'm all for changing the mindset. And if that means making hard decisions on long term players like Farah & Galloway etc- so be it.

Its hard to believe that you would axe Farah from Wests Tigers if you dont have major problem with him. But yes a lot of the opinions on here are influenced from rumour and assumption - guilty as charged.

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I won't suggest there isn't a 'problem'- the fact that both JT & Farah quibbled over the penalty in Golden Point in the Press Conference kind of shows they are not on the same page- but the idea that Taylor has a "massive problem" with Farah could be more that Taylor is trying to assume control over the players from Farah- not necessarily that the two hate each other.

Unfortunately when clubs go through a clean-out in order to reset their path, players become expendable, surplus to requirements or in the case of Farah- an obsticle to progression.

I don't think anyone here can say Farah kept the Tigers competitive the last 2 years. We've been poor with him. He's not worth the value of his contract, and he isn't the answer to solving the Tigers woes- regardless of how good he has been for the club over time.

You might be right Chadman - but you need to consider how this action is viewed by the playing squad. If the players all support Farah and based on what we have seen in the past weeks it would be fair to assume that this is true. Effectively Taylor has sacked their captain in the most disrespectful way. It is well documented that players at this club sign on because they want to play together - there are not many other incentives to play with us. I can almost guarantee that they feel Farah has been treated poorly by Taylor - as it was ultimately his decision. Now if TAYLOR thinks this is going to help build a winning culture with this playing group he better get results very quickly, because while they may not be able to say it, this cant be sitting well with them. If Taylor had an open chequebook to bring in a whole new squad - well no problem. For Taylor to take this decision suggests to me he hasnt got a clue about managing power effectively and our board has allegedly handed it all to him as far as the playing squad goes.

 

[innsaneink]

If that's the case tell tails… The players need to suck it up
Players are supposed to play
Coaches coach
When did the lines get so blurred... Is it this generation that ferl like their constantly owed something.... This really pees me off

KNOW YOUR PLACE

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Go's partner seemed to join a WTs Facebook fan pages… Decided to corrct a fans statement
Not good at all... Though some seem to take delight in it

What did he say? Not very professional

Nothing we didnt already know really…mainly that the farah decision was the coaching staff and not the boards, who have given JT complete authority on these issues

I think he was responding to someone who suggested the board were paid, he clarified they werent paid, as it was only his words its hard to gauge the context.

Still....he shouldnt be commenting at all I think

Its in this thread somewhere the last few pages

Lol… I hope Marina gave her hubby a good, hard spanking when she got home and grounded him from using facebook :laughing:

He thanks you for that suggestionMama , and can't wait for Marina to get home :righton:

 

[Telltails]

If that's the case tell tails… The players need to suck it up
Players are supposed to play
Coaches coach
When did the lines get so blurred... Is it this generation that ferl like their constantly owed something.... This really pees me off

KNOW YOUR PLACE

Wrong Ink they dont need to suck it up cause they have got options and contracts mean nothing these days - our club has proved that. We can always pay them to play somewhere else - thats worked well for us so far.

 

[happy_tiger]

Wasn't this the same coach whose first argument in his interview at the WTs was he would look at standing Farah down as captain

So coaches can change their minds , go figure

Never heard that story… Do tell?

Jets vs Tigers next Sunday old fella!!!

Jets in a canter

The reason I heard that the board /Mayer weren't happy with Brown was he wanted to possibly take the captaincy from Farah

It was widely discussed on the Forum Watto

Now Brown has changed his mind

All I was saying

 

[tiger05premier]

I live in Newcastle just heard on local radio farah being linked to the knight's for next 3yrs.

 

[Demps]

Brown is keen…
It's on Zero Tackle.
It's a possibility 'cos they've got coin....
Up to Farah though.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Brown is keen…
It's on Zero Tackle.
It's a possibility 'cos they've got coin....
Up to Farah though.

You going to give him the Luke Burt treatment if goes up there Demps?

 

[Demps]

Brown is keen…
It's on Zero Tackle.
It's a possibility 'cos they've got coin....
Up to Farah though.

You going to give him the Luke Burt treatment if goes up there Demps?

Hell no.
I got no beef with Robbie…

He arranged the team to sign a jersey for me in the past.
Got all the time in the world for him...

My Mrs loves him too so he's always welcome over for dinner, haha.

Still, don't think the guy is going to want to move to Newcastle.

 

[batboy]

I'm just amazed with some of the comments here by Tigers supporters. This guy who people are bagging took a pay cut to help the club we all love so we could be competitive. Yes he was going to be payed at a later date but he knew with the salary cap going up that would help the club we love.
Let's get rid of farah. This forum majority wanted Blair gone (playing semi final football) Benji gone (playing semi final football) but wanted Austin to stay ( not playing semi final football) looks like we are all good judges here…
Farah is a winner and he feels let down that a club he plays for is again not playing semi final football and as a fan I would rather a player that hurts like us when they lose to players that see this as 'just a job'

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Are you gonna argue that both Benji and Blair played this year the same as they played when with us? - That'd be a good giggle….

Blair is around 30 tackles a game and and close to 100m a game.
I'd be shocked if he came close to these stats in his time with us.

Both Players needed to move on to better themselves - As does Robbie.
He needs a gig where he is just a boy, And not the longest standing soldier.
Being humble isn't in his make up....

 

[innsaneink]

I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

 

[innsaneink]

If that's the case tell tails… The players need to suck it up
Players are supposed to play
Coaches coach
When did the lines get so blurred... Is it this generation that ferl like their constantly owed something.... This really pees me off

KNOW YOUR PLACE

Wrong Ink they dont need to suck it up cause they have got options and contracts mean nothing these days - our club has proved that. We can always pay them to play somewhere else - thats worked well for us so far.

Yeh… They have options....
Suck it up and do what the coach and club says....

Or
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... Boot off somewhere else

 

[fibrodreaming]

I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

Do you mean that a component of the payments Robbie is to receive in the last two years of his contract represent interest on the amounts foregone in earlier years? If so, then he is no worse off financially over the life of the contract. (Although including interest payments on amounts owing is a hell of a way to manage our salary cap.)

 

[Geo]

Wasn't this the same coach whose first argument in his interview at the WTs was he would look at standing Farah down as captain

So coaches can change their minds , go figure

Never heard that story… Do tell?

Jets vs Tigers next Sunday old fella!!!

Jets in a canter

The reason I heard that the board /Mayer weren't happy with Brown was he wanted to possibly take the captaincy from Farah

It was widely discussed on the Forum Watto

Now Brown has changed his mind

All I was saying

What makes you think he would be Captain at the Knights to take it off him…totally unrelated issue...correlation doesn't mean causation...

What has Brown changed his mind about?

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

Correct. Hence why he is on nearly a million for the next 2yrs. It isn't because he is that good it's because he was getting compensated for agreeing to be paid in 2yrs rather than consistently per year over several.

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[Telltails]

If that's the case tell tails… The players need to suck it up
Players are supposed to play
Coaches coach
When did the lines get so blurred... Is it this generation that ferl like their constantly owed something.... This really pees me off

KNOW YOUR PLACE

Wrong Ink they dont need to suck it up cause they have got options and contracts mean nothing these days - our club has proved that. We can always pay them to play somewhere else - thats worked well for us so far.

Yeh… They have options....
Suck it up and do what the coach and club says....

Or
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... Boot off somewhere else

They have Ink - you saw the result of that this year.

 

[fibrodreaming]

I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

Correct. Hence why he is on nearly a million for the next 2yrs. It isn't because he is that good it's because he was getting compensated for agreeing to be paid in 2yrs rather than consistently per year over several.

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I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

Correct. Hence why he is on nearly a million for the next 2yrs. It isn't because he is that good it's because he was getting compensated for agreeing to be paid in 2yrs rather than consistently per year over several.

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I think you and Ink are making a big assumption that Robbie has not been financially disadvantaged.

As I replied to Ink on the page above, if Robbie's contract payments include an amount for interest on deferred payments, then he will suffer no financial disadvantage over the life of the contract.

If, however, no component of interest is included in his contract payments then he will have suffered a financial penalty for agreeing to defer the amounts he was owed to later years. For example, you can currently put money into good corporate bonds paying around 7%. Investing $400k in one of these would yield over $80k in total interest payments over 3 years, which gives a rough indication of how much Robbie may be out of pocket.

In a sense Mighty Tiger might be right when he speaks of Robbie taking a pay cut. If Robbie's contract does not include interest on deferred payments, then effectively he has taken a pay cut.

The fact that Robbie will be paid in full whether he stays or goes is true, but it doesn't diminish the financial sacrifice he may have made for the sake of the team.