goldcoast_tiger
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@jirskyr said:
It's a bugger when they don't print what some want to hear :smiley:
Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....
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It's a bugger when they don't print what some want to hear :smiley:
MacDougall
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My two cents.
When we have Cherrington on the field, we have looked pretty much the same. Cherrington would be on under 200k, possibly nearer 100k.
Farah has handed the reigns to the halves, he's no longer the centrepiece of the play, rightly so.
We DO lose him for ages in the middle of the season. Despite Hackfield's dismissal of the point.
He has become very fragile.
He doesn't make line breaks anymore. His short kicks deep on the attack don't work. He barely ever gets penalties with his dashes from dummy half. His passing is slow and often behind or out in front of the man. He doesn't dominate in tackles, he makes lots of them but he gets pushed backwards 9 times out of 10 after contact.
He has a history of causing fractures in the club, has been responsible or partly responsible for the sacking of two coaches, and is a walking negative headline.
He is used to losing. Has played finals three times in his career spanning 11 years and lost 3 Origin series. He is conditioned to failure. He really doesn't fit a "winning culture" when most of our juniors are coming from comp winning teams…
He is owed $1,000,000 a year for the next two years. If someone else took half of that and we bought a rookie and a decent forward with fast legs who can tackle hard we would have a more competitive team. If someone took him and paid $300,000 of that we could still buy a forward who runs and tackles hard, I'm sure we could find one somewhere, and heaven knows that we need intimidating big and hard forwards, more than we need an aging dummy half.
It's mostly not his fault, but it would be ridiculous to accept all these facts and not do anything about it.
If he wants to stay he needs to hand over his Blues jersey so that he's worth more to the Tigers by playing the whole damn year and he needs to produce some serious form otherwise Cherrington will be taking his jersey. I don't care if he's on a mill, if Cherrington is playing better than him, Cherrington should play nine.
Playing him in reserve grade is dumb though. There is no doubt that he's in our best 17 players. I'd put him on the bench or even at 13, but Cherrington has been on par with him this year and I expect he'll improve and Farah will go backwards further emphasizing the point.
The only thing they've done wrong is threaten to put him in reserve grade, Farah and that derp Sam Ayoub have almost certainly leaked every minor detail about the situation to the media and are responsible for blowing this up the way it has. For a guy that claims to bleed Wests Tigers he just LOVES destabilizing the damn place. He'd be a better club man if he saw the situation for what it is and offered to play out the rest of his contract without taking a mid season sabbatical to get injured playing for a team that isn't responsible for paying him a million bucks a year, or went to England. If he cares about Wests Tigers as much as he cares about himself he will make the right decision and give up the Origin jersey, that would REALLY mean digging his heels in and he'll have drawn a line in the sand showing that he really means it.
I'm no Taylor fan, but I'm on board with this decision.
When we have Cherrington on the field, we have looked pretty much the same. Cherrington would be on under 200k, possibly nearer 100k.
Farah has handed the reigns to the halves, he's no longer the centrepiece of the play, rightly so.
We DO lose him for ages in the middle of the season. Despite Hackfield's dismissal of the point.
He has become very fragile.
He doesn't make line breaks anymore. His short kicks deep on the attack don't work. He barely ever gets penalties with his dashes from dummy half. His passing is slow and often behind or out in front of the man. He doesn't dominate in tackles, he makes lots of them but he gets pushed backwards 9 times out of 10 after contact.
He has a history of causing fractures in the club, has been responsible or partly responsible for the sacking of two coaches, and is a walking negative headline.
He is used to losing. Has played finals three times in his career spanning 11 years and lost 3 Origin series. He is conditioned to failure. He really doesn't fit a "winning culture" when most of our juniors are coming from comp winning teams…
He is owed $1,000,000 a year for the next two years. If someone else took half of that and we bought a rookie and a decent forward with fast legs who can tackle hard we would have a more competitive team. If someone took him and paid $300,000 of that we could still buy a forward who runs and tackles hard, I'm sure we could find one somewhere, and heaven knows that we need intimidating big and hard forwards, more than we need an aging dummy half.
It's mostly not his fault, but it would be ridiculous to accept all these facts and not do anything about it.
If he wants to stay he needs to hand over his Blues jersey so that he's worth more to the Tigers by playing the whole damn year and he needs to produce some serious form otherwise Cherrington will be taking his jersey. I don't care if he's on a mill, if Cherrington is playing better than him, Cherrington should play nine.
Playing him in reserve grade is dumb though. There is no doubt that he's in our best 17 players. I'd put him on the bench or even at 13, but Cherrington has been on par with him this year and I expect he'll improve and Farah will go backwards further emphasizing the point.
The only thing they've done wrong is threaten to put him in reserve grade, Farah and that derp Sam Ayoub have almost certainly leaked every minor detail about the situation to the media and are responsible for blowing this up the way it has. For a guy that claims to bleed Wests Tigers he just LOVES destabilizing the damn place. He'd be a better club man if he saw the situation for what it is and offered to play out the rest of his contract without taking a mid season sabbatical to get injured playing for a team that isn't responsible for paying him a million bucks a year, or went to England. If he cares about Wests Tigers as much as he cares about himself he will make the right decision and give up the Origin jersey, that would REALLY mean digging his heels in and he'll have drawn a line in the sand showing that he really means it.
I'm no Taylor fan, but I'm on board with this decision.
goldcoast_tiger
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@innsaneink said:
Just the advantage in being on call for the last 24 hours Ink, and not having anything to do.
Had the best time reading some of these fantasies a lot of laughs as the latest news has started to filter through,
innsaneink
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You're trying too hard
@MacDougall said:
C'mon hardly facts u point out, more your opinions!
Farah has stated and it is plain to see that he has been told to take a back seat for the new halves to assert themselves.. Also he gave up last year because he hated potter, I think fair enough. My opinion.
Mate his tackling the same way he has for years, he's not a hitter more a lock them up tackler. Please if u are going to character assassinate some one be fair. What are the stats this year when farah didn't play due to broken hand and SOO games? where are those facts??????? Again u are picking and choosing the argument to favour your opinion!!! Again hardly the facts and hardly fair. Please respond to the questions above.
Now on farahs tackling technique, the thing missing in our defence when farah is missing is locking up the football allowing the opposition to offload at will…. Farah often comes in as the third man in to stop this, like he did to Shillington against Canberra to win the game.
Stop pushing your own agenda... and be fair!!!!
NOW for me to be fair, I didn't like the way farah backstabbed sheens after all sheens did for him and spoke up for him during the SOO selections.. I though that was really pour, but most of u guys hated sheens so u didn't care, typical.
But farah has been coached by a fair few good coaches in his time and if he says potter couldn't coach then I agree with him. You didn't have to be Einstein to work this out just listen to potter talk at the post match interviews. You'd swear he had only part of his brain working. Again my opinion, NOT FACTS.
Magpie_Ryan
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I have a headache.
PrattenParkMagpie
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@lathami said:
So your opinion on Potters ability to coach is based solely on his ability to speak in public, gold… :roll
foreveratiger
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@TrueTiger said:
Good advice for yourself .
Pawsandclaws
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It is interesting there appears to be a belief senior management from the WTs agreed to Farah playing in 2016 and departing for ESL in 2917\. That is what is reported in the DT.
As more information emerges, the damage done to the business brand of WTs increases.
As more information emerges, the damage done to the business brand of WTs increases.
Something I was musing over earlier.
At least superficially it appears that Farah has had problems with, and created problems for, the last two WT coaches. The origin coach Laurie Daley backs Farah, and Farah, on the surface of it, has no problem with Daley.
Is it possible that his motives and behaviour are different because of the different context?
Farah was champing at the bit to win the rep jersey ahead of Ennis. What's the likelihood he would outwardly question Daley or his game plans? Once the jersey was his, and he's now playing alongside elite athletes, what is the likelihood he would jeopardise that?
Meanwhile, back at the (WT) ranch, same old same old. Playing with the same old playing roster. Coach isn't buying into his, now elite, suggestions for improvement. Bored
What are your thoughts?
At least superficially it appears that Farah has had problems with, and created problems for, the last two WT coaches. The origin coach Laurie Daley backs Farah, and Farah, on the surface of it, has no problem with Daley.
Is it possible that his motives and behaviour are different because of the different context?
Farah was champing at the bit to win the rep jersey ahead of Ennis. What's the likelihood he would outwardly question Daley or his game plans? Once the jersey was his, and he's now playing alongside elite athletes, what is the likelihood he would jeopardise that?
Meanwhile, back at the (WT) ranch, same old same old. Playing with the same old playing roster. Coach isn't buying into his, now elite, suggestions for improvement. Bored
What are your thoughts?
foreveratiger
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@TrueTiger said:
I'm absolutely fine.
i'm not the one going around advicing people what they should be doing :unamused:
MagpieRyan may just need a lie down,some others on here may need more than A pill…...
then you go on to say :
Hey lathami,you have placed your opinion on here regarding this matter.....
Mac has done nothing different,I cant understand what agenda he would have,other than just giving his opinion.....
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Your sounding like MOD now :roll .
old_man_tiger
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Having trouble caring enough to say anything controversial, but I really want to! I'm feeling left out, not getting my fair share of the insults flying around.
Really none of us know exactly what has caused this, and none of us know how it will effect on field performances next year. The future is all I care about, and I'll keep my powder dry until we know how we play without him.
Really none of us know exactly what has caused this, and none of us know how it will effect on field performances next year. The future is all I care about, and I'll keep my powder dry until we know how we play without him.
MacDougall
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@lathami said:
Most of what I said are facts friend.
We lose him mid year for ages. Fact.
He is fragile. Broken bones etc. Fact.
He isn't playing as good as he used to. He used to be arguably the best in the NRL. Fact.
The halves are controlling the game. Fact.
He is destabilising to the club. Demonstrated and confirmed fact.
He loses more than he wins. Fact.
The only part that was opinion was the part about Cherrington tbh.
You just picked out one part of what I said and ranted about it without even making a point of everything else I said. I didn't say that Farah has regressed in his tackling. He's regressed in other points but his tackling has always been that way, that doesn't refute any part of what I said.
So your entire point really revolves around the fact that you think he was justified with Potter, but not with Sheens … Alright, your opinion. And the fact that his defense is actually useful, which it is, but it's not something that we can afford to be paying a million dollars a season for.
My only agenda is to be alive to see an era of success for this club. I believe this is the hardest, toughest most brilliant decision they could have made and was pushing for it to be made before it was even announced. They just weren't tactful enough, and probably should have expected Robbie to turn it into a media circus, because that's just how he operates.
Just for you FT,what I was relating to was..some have been going hammer and tong regarding this topic as INK earlier said to GC about his food being delivered because he has been going for hours,no problem with that as I thought the reply from GC was pretty cool..my point was if we keep going some of US,myself included may need therapy to restore our sanity….
As for lathami... I wanted to know what agenda Mac may have in this scenario......
Im not trying to be a MOD,nor would I want to be,they do a pretty good job themselves without my help..
But thanks for enquiring....
As for lathami... I wanted to know what agenda Mac may have in this scenario......
Im not trying to be a MOD,nor would I want to be,they do a pretty good job themselves without my help..
But thanks for enquiring....
goldcoast_tiger
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@MacDougall said:
If today's news is right , the whole deal looked settled when Farah and the management agreed on him playing next year, then going to SL in 2017\. Then our wonderful coach spat the dummy and involved himself in it again . And blew it all apart .
Some may not want to believe Paul Kent , or Rothfield but it seems the longer it goes the more it seems that the circus is in the boardroom and the coach is the head clown
IF it's true (and I emphasise the IF), that Farah has disregarded on field directions from the coach, then it puts Taylor in a no win situation. He could not simply ignore the fact that his captain had in effect given him the 2 fingered salute. No wonder then he wanted Farah gone now, not at the end of next season.
Anyway, it's all hearsay really. No one knows exactly what has transpired over the past few months. But for sure it ain't pretty.
Anyway, it's all hearsay really. No one knows exactly what has transpired over the past few months. But for sure it ain't pretty.
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