Robbie Farah

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Eddie

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I have always been a staunch Farah fan both as his ability as a player and a leader. I think think he is capable of being the best 9 in the game however the last couple of seasons he has cut a frustrated figure. He reminds me a bit of Gallen at Cronulla before the cavalry arrived. Trying to do everything, making great plays, unforced errors, arguing with refs, etc.

I just hope that the halves and the coach are strong enough to start calling the shots a bit more. Teams that play unstructured, off the cuff football are rarely clubs that are winning or consistent these days in the NRL. The days of Farah playing hooker, halfback and five-eight in one game must be bought to a close.

I know it was only 9s however seeing him all over the paddock making early tackle kicks and trying to cover other deficiencies int he team only made us worse. He is the wrong side of 30 now and has lost a yard or two of pace, so some of these snap decisions look awful when he are on the back foot. Hopefully Brooks is the guy he has some faith in and won't start overplaying his hand.

Like i said i'm a fan, but i think he needs to simplify his game a little at times if we are on the road to becoming a team that can build a gameplan and build consistency in our play. Dont get me wrong you dont want robots, but you need trust in your other players. Maybe (well definetly at times) he hasn't had the cattle.
 
I tend to agree. I am a huge fan of Robbie Farah but I would really like to see a halfback organizing the play and Farah playing a more traditional hooker (with his spark of brilliance added when we are on the front foot).
 
Robbie is a great player but he has some crap in his game. I don't see him as organising us as a team. He needs to focus on what he has to do not the whole team.

I'm not really worried though. I'm more worried about Potter getting the halves right.
 
I agree with Eddie, Farah has to concentrate on being a no9 and having faith in his 1 6 and 7 to play their roles
 
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a shit movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I dont think he's worth more than half the rumored 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.
 
@Majere77 said:
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a shit movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I dont think he's worth more than half the rumored 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.
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I won't argue with you I think very similar.

I think sheens shifting him to half, have him too much responsibility.

He is a great player, when he sticks to basics. Getting the forwards moving forward etc.

Not overplaying his hand.

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@Majere77 said:
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a shit movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I dont think he's worth more than half the rumored 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.
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Hard to disagree. I still love the guy and defend him against my father, a Magpies supporter for 50 years, who loathes him with a passion.

But I am also a realist and recognise that since around 2009 he rarely (1/10) comes up with the right clutch play.

He has more ability than any hooker in the game but I wouldnt have had him in the top 6 last year.

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It can be hard to gauge comparing him to other hookers. Are other surrounder by better players or is that a dud excuse? I used to argue 5-6 years ago that he was better then Smith because of his stats (which were lenghts better at times) but I have long since given that away. Smith is a serial winner, and takes smart options 9 times out of 10\. He doesn't have the flair of Farah however he is now streets ahead of him.

Jake Friend was outstanding last year. He was behind a monster pack however he did play brilliantly in his own right i thought. On form alone i thought he might of tipped Robbie off as number 2 is the Australian ranks and a ral challanger for his origin spot.
 
He always seems to look good when he has a genuine quality 7

Prince and Lui are the only quality 7's he has had

I hope he uses his brain this season , can lessen his defensive workload and give quality ball to Brooks and the backline

I still would be interested to see how he played without the captaincy ??
 
@happy tiger said:
He always seems to look good when he has a genuine quality 7

Prince and Lui are the only quality 7's he has had

I hope he uses his brain this season , can lessen his defensive workload and give quality ball to Brooks and the backline

I still would be interested to see how he played without the captaincy ??
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So would I. I have long believe his form decline coincided with getting the captaincy.

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@happy tiger said:
He always seems to look good when he has a genuine quality 7

Prince and Lui are the only quality 7's he has had

I hope he uses his brain this season , can lessen his defensive workload and give quality ball to Brooks and the backline

I still would be interested to see how he played without the captaincy ??
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He looks a hell of a lot better when he has a forward pack that goes forward and wins the ruck. Take a look at how ordinary and ineffective our backrow was last year. We had no go forward apart from Woods and to a lesser extent Galloway and Ava S. Not good enough in this competition. If we can get our backrowers averaging over 100 metres per game, the dynamic of our forward pack transforms, and Farah will be far less reliant on taking on too much himself, as he'll have a much better platform to play off and can use Brooks/Anasta/Austin much more effectively IMO.
 
He has the ability or skills to be better than Cameron Smith but I can't see that happening because of the poor options and poor plays that he comes up with.

He is the same as Benji. They have more ability than so many players in the game but they don't do what it takes to win games. I think Farah though is worse than Benji when it comes to taking the right option. Benji takes the right option but stuffs up the play. Robbie comes up with hog play way too often.

This sums up Robbie for me:-

@Majere77 said:
**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**
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I'd love to see him turn his game around but comparing him to someone like Benny Elias is to me a joke and I used to think he would be was good if not better a player.
 
Just like Benji, Farah needs a halfback! In that nines game he had no one. Austin played some minutes and he's not a great organiser/kicker leaving Farah as the last option!

Same thing last year. And same thing in soo iii where Pierce and Maloney weren't doing a thing with 5min on the clock.

He will become better if you give him some halves, they are the most important players on the field
 
@Eddie said:
I have always been a staunch Farah fan both as his ability as a player and a leader. I think think he is capable of being the best 9 in the game however the last couple of seasons he has cut a frustrated figure. He reminds me a bit of Gallen at Cronulla before the cavalry arrived. Trying to do everything, making great plays, unforced errors, arguing with refs, etc.

I just hope that the halves and the coach are strong enough to start calling the shots a bit more. Teams that play unstructured, off the cuff football are rarely clubs that are winning or consistent these days in the NRL. The days of Farah playing hooker, halfback and five-eight in one game must be bought to a close.

I know it was only 9s however seeing him all over the paddock making early tackle kicks and trying to cover other deficiencies int he team only made us worse. He is the wrong side of 30 now and has lost a yard or two of pace, so some of these snap decisions look awful when he are on the back foot. Hopefully Brooks is the guy he has some faith in and won't start overplaying his hand.

Like i said i'm a fan, but i think he needs to simplify his game a little at times if we are on the road to becoming a team that can build a gameplan and build consistency in our play. Dont get me wrong you dont want robots, but you need trust in your other players. Maybe (well definetly at times) he hasn't had the cattle.
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Eddie man, you're too intelligent to be on here… Remove yourself immediately!!

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@Majere77 said:
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a s*** movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I dont think he's worth more than half the rumored 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.
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As much as it hurts me to admit it , I think you nailed it and you are 100% correct , it's more that I find him trying to hard at times and don't see him as a Captain , as Captains don't do individual decisions.
He has got nothing on Cam Smith, Cam Smith is the ultimate professional
 
@Majere77 said:
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a shit movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I dont think he's worth more than half the rumored 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.
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Can smith is by far the best hooker however, did u really question whether or not the wests tigers should have Farah in the team?
Ur post lost credibility when u said that, how could the team be stronger without him?!

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Farah is a winner, he wants the club to do well and he wants the team to do well and so at times he does what he thinks is needed which doesn't always work out. He has been part of the club fabric for a number of years now. Crucial this year will be his working relationship with Potter. Potter needs to convince Farah to play his role as per the game plan and to have confidence in his team mates to play their role. He needs to be patient as with a team consisting of a number of young players and new players to the club, success may take a while, he can't panic and start to overplay his hand. Farah and potter need to work as a team so the greater team can work as one.
 
Last Season there was no effective 1/2 and a 5/8 that crabbed across the paddock. Someone had to step up and try to give direction. If there is half decent structure this season and halves that communicate and direct play that will allow him to play a 9's role. I think/hope that will lead to improvement. If not we can all death ride him like Benji.
 
When you're playing in a team with no halves whatsoever, whats he supposed to do? Keep passing it to nobodies who either do nothing or stuff up. As the best player on our team he took the responsibility to try and lift his team to get them points on the board as there was no-one else capable of doing so.

Yes he has overplayed his hand at times, but when there's no-one else capable of playing a hand i'd rather he be the captain, lead the team and give it a shot.

having brooks, Austin/anasta and moses around will help a lot. Most depth in halves we've ever had, even if somewhat unproven
 
It seems it has been a while since he made the metres he once did.
Maybe the 2014 forward pack will make the difference.
As for brain snaps, he doesn't seem to have learned from the Warriors final in 2011\. It's hard to forgive him that.
Not that he isn't still integral to the team.
 
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