LIVE GAME Round 14 vs. Raiders

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Lots on here have already mentioned Sutton's officiating. Credit to Raiders and Fairfax Ricky for being able to cop a $10,000 fine every 4 weeks for calling out rubbish and inconsistent calls.

3 kick trys is just luck. We never had a chance for quick play the balls into overlaps until the sin bin.

Shame we threw our challenge away early. some 2nd half challenges would have beem major momentum shifts for us.

Revenge on the Raiders locked in for round 23. Coaching staff need to be in the headlines in the week leading up, lot's of well worded comments along the lines of "we would hope to see fair officiating" etc.

We will keep building. Any side playing against our full strength should be concerned.

We might win the set restarts 20-0 with some fair officiating!
 
I don't blame Paps, he's in a tough spot in the heat of the moment you have to try and stop the field goal, can't fault him for trying to block it. Once he dived he was in mid air and it was obvious there wasn't any intent to contact his legs but once he's in the air he can't fly and change direction. The loss wasn't his fault, I blame our wasted possession in the first half and the referee. If Sutton does his job from the start and doesn't allow Canberra to lay all over us and slow the play the ball down we win. If he opened his eyes and penalised the push in the back to Brooks on the Raiders try we win. The guys a deadset Muppet.
All the players know you CANT TOUCH THE KICKER. There is no excuse. I don’t agree with it but that’s the rule. Paps cost us the game.
 
Just a brutal loss...

I rarely blame refs, but Raiders laid all over us to slow the ruck ALL game...should have been binned way earlier.

And how on earth was the try where Brooks was pushed hard...both hands in the back...as clear as daylight...not even checked.

Add in we had a three man overlap on that last play...and won all the stats...and they had barely a single line break....arghhhh.

Painful one. Really, really, painful.
 
The refs weren't great, but every stat favoured us massively. If we make 7 line breaks to none, nearly double their meters, a third of the missed tackles, and win the set restarts 8-0, I'm not blaming the ref for the loss. We stuffed up so many breaks with dropped balls and poor execution. We did enough to overcome their 'slowing the ruck' tactics to have scored 30+ points. The fact that we didn't is on us, not the refs.
 
They always find a way to do it. Give you hope and then lose it at the end... Would rather have lost 18-0 then that
The points We scored could come in handy at the end of the year to determine where We finish on the ladder, and We didn't deserve to win the game anyway.
 
I actually like the way the Raiders play, and their forwards match up with ours quite well. No real forward dominance could be had by us, which negates our best weapons.

Yes, they slowed the ruck down. But I'll say this- our dummy half & guy playing the ball spend too long waving their arms around complaining & not enough time attacking the line. Nofa, To'a in particular are very good air traffic controllers.

Some teams will not match well against us. Raiders & Sharks I imagine will cause us grief more often than not.
 
Officiating aside, it was just a few moments of inexperience from some of the younger guys (Bula, Tupou, Pole) & going too often to Brooks’ side (Papalii, Talau) that cost us especially the form that T’oa, Bateman & Nofa are in.
 
Looking back on the game and after watching the last few runs from Pole I actually think Klem and Uto didn’t have the same intensity as they have had in past games. Seyfarth also had little to no impact and we need a better option off the bench.
After the big win in their previous game and having a week off I expected to see Our mob come onto the field with lots of confidence, intensity and enthusiasm in attack, but I didn't see that until the last 10 mins of the match.
 
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We finally get a top line hooker and you want to shift him to halfback? Api is great out of dummy half, I’ve got huge doubts about him as a halfback. Robbie Farah was never great at halfback. Da Silva is extremely promising but Simpkin would be a poor option as starting hooker.

We’d be lucky to see AD at all again.

Sorry to get back to this one so late.

I do not want to move Api to halfback. I think we'd be mad not to try and retain Brooks on fair dollars. If he starts asking for huge dollars just let him go.

I can't see AD making it at all now. It's sad and I really don't want comment on it.

I thought Api massively overplayed his hand last night and he was eons better than Simpkin.

You asked for an option and I gave it. It's not a good option and certainly one I wouldn't take unless Brooks is asking for ridiculous money. I'd also resign Wakehan as well. I think they are both high priority signings.
 
Canberra tactic obvious lay all over tackled player slow our play the ball .Why did it take 68 mins for ref to take action
Their other tactic put up high bombs and chase down with no intention to catch .The idea is to leap in our catchers face to make him drop the ball .Wighton leaps way short of ball
Jahream and Junior had tough games but will learn .
We lost by 1 point yet one of raiders trys came after Brooks was pushed in the back
Rules clear -You can't do that ! Ref and sideline boffins missed that
Ricky devised the lay all over us plan to counter our attack and Presser complains about 8 ruck infringements against them
This guy is so full of bullshit .They would have watched the tape of our cowboys game and got a little alarmed and so devised the plan to dramatically slow down our play the ball
He admitted they deserved their 8 ruck infringements but complained about our zero
Average play the ball speed they were nearly a second faster .
Refs should act earlier not 68 minute mark
Poor reffing cost us but a 15% drop in our completion rate did too
Raiders were lucky hope the worm turns on them soon
 
Sorry to get back to this one so late.

I do not want to move Api to halfback. I think we'd be mad not to try and retain Brooks on fair dollars. If he starts asking for huge dollars just let him go.

I can't see AD making it at all now. It's sad and I really don't want comment on it.

I thought Api massively overplayed his hand last night and he was eons better than Simpkin.

You asked for an option and I gave it. It's not a good option and certainly one I wouldn't take unless Brooks is asking for ridiculous money. I'd also resign Wakehan as well. I think they are both high priority signings.

I think Api is still getting the balance right. Simpkin has just plateaued. He’s okay but I’m not seeing a lot of upside right now. Wakeham has certainly exceeded expectations for this year.
 
All the players know you CANT TOUCH THE KICKER. There is no excuse. I don’t agree with it but that’s the rule. Paps cost us the game.
No he didn't, our impotent attack in the first half, poor ruck refereeing and low I.q in terms of football intelligence when they put the onside kick we bottled after the kick off after our field goal cost us the game. Paps should never have been in that position if we catch the ball instead of trying to bat it back. If we get a penalty when Brooks is pushed instead of them being awarded a try we win. There are a whole host of things that contributed to us losing not just Paps.
 
We couldn't score for 70 min then score 3 in 3 sets
We also did 3 in 3 against cowboys & dogs
Why can't they attack like that constantly 💁‍♂️
Btw speaking of 3 we still couldn't win more than 3 games on the trot
The curse continues 👿
 
We've had some massive BS calls over the years, that Broncos game in Campbelltown where Isaako scored all their points comes to mind as well. There is no vindication for any of these because we will never be successful enough to forget these minor losses.
 
So many what ifs
What if Pole had passed to execute a 3 on 2 with half the field open
What if Brooks had stayed down when he got charged down and pretended they hit his leg
What if the ref had just blown a penalty coz clearly the guy who ran up to Brooks on the last tackle was offside, that's a more deliberate penalty and act than what Papali'i did.

The Refs have way too much power.
 
Sheens made an interesting comment in presser about Jake came off blowing with Sheens citing lack of recent game time. I wonder whether we’ll see Simpkin play 80 mins of NSW Cup next week with Laurie or Smith onto bench as hooker/half utility. We’ll need Simpkin in 1sts the following week with Api on SOO duty, and maybe Laurie or Smith can continue as his backup.
 

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