LIVE GAME Round 17v Manly

[Needaname]

They didn't play well, but it was obvious this was all about their preparation. No player knew their role. Players aren't given a chance to succeed in that situation.

Coaches like Jason Taylor and Madge almost felt too rigid in their structure, but they had one, you could see intent. What was our team trying to achieve tonight? Where were the targets? Who played what position? So players were poor, and I hate blaming coaches, but this result was coaching.

Telling though isn’t it when our recently recruited star five eight admits in our press conferences that he hasn’t spent much time at all in combination with another of his halves. I’m pretty certain Latu wasn’t injured in the preseason maybe Luai was for a bit but wtf are they doing each week.
Other teams mention ‘they train for it’ when the team has to go through a reshuffle in game, or when first choice players are out. Do we?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Yeah I think it’s a bit rich that he judges us within the call. Warren Smith does it too. I don’t notice other teams coping a hammering from the Commentators as well as the opposition as much as us.

I don’t like it when certain commentators look down their noses at us *cough* Cronk *cough*. But you can’t say we don’t bring it on ourselves. We lurch from one drama to another and are perennial cellar dwellers. Those things don’t make you command much respect. If we became successful, a lot of the media’s perception would change, cos they would have nothing to report anymore. How many clubs in the headlines are ever top of the table?

 

[Droppy05]

Yeah I think it’s a bit rich that he judges us within the call. Warren Smith does it too. I don’t notice other teams coping a hammering from the Commentators as well as the opposition as much as us.

There no teams as bad as ours on an ongoing basis as WT. 3 spoons.

 

[Needaname]

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I got these vibes from that presser

Was that in a press conference?

 

[Droppy05]

Was that in a press conference?

No, but should have been.

 

[Needaname]

No, but should have been.

No ours, I mean Elliot’s panthers one?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Was that in a press conference?

Yeah, when he coached the Panthers. He’d been under the pump for weeks, and after another loss, walked in and pulled his tie over his head, and said something to the affect of “How’s that?”. Wasn’t much of a coach but had a sense of humour.

 

[magpies forever]

Meninga and Gardiner are also in another league to our coaching team.

I'd love to get Gardiner back here.

 

[BZN]

It was the kids who had control of the team tonight and the kids who were horrible . Luke , Mason , TDS, Samuela got impatient and frustrated and started looking for shots when making the tackle was what’s required … you can’t get up there and stick the boot in … they haven’t achieved enough yet to have a foundation of “I’m a gun … this is just constructive criticism”
They’re guaranteed to interpret it as “I’m not good enough for this level “
It just shows why the club was after another half , and looking for spine depth . The kids clearly have talent , and they have a coach who wants to give them time to develop … I’m just not sure if the team keeps losing that the board and exco will have the patience with Benji .
I know why the attack is shit .. and I’m sure Benji does as well .
They spent the whole offseason playing Lachie as the sweeping link man , Bula hard right and luai hard left .
And unconventional style because 1 player was best suited in that role .
Now he’s pissed off ,
Every single member of the spine , has now had to adapt and change the way the team has trained and the combinations built .
So Bula is now doing the sweeping , luai is playing closer to the ruck , and Fainu is slowly being integrated z
So it looks clunky . Because it is … just like it was for the first 5 rounds … then they figured it out then .. then pencil neck became a dog , and it’s like the whole team had to go back to week 1 only with zero pre-season . It’s caused so much damage.
[This word has been automatically removed] the bulldogs and Lachlan Galvin ! Bunch of rats …

I like those words "constructive criticism".

 

[Needaname]

Yeah, when he coached the Panthers. He’d been under the pump for weeks, and after another loss, walked in and pulled his tie over his head, and said something to the affect of “How’s that?”. Wasn’t much of a coach but had a sense of humour.

I heard one of the first things Gus did when he arrived at Penrith was sit down Matt Elliot and ask him to explain how he plans to coach the side to play that season. It was apparently so convoluted that he pretty much sacked him on the spot.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I heard one of the first things Gus did when he arrived at Penrith was sit down Matt Elliot and ask him to explain how he plans to coach the side to play that season. It was apparently so convoluted that he pretty much sacked him on the spot.

I thought he was already gone once Gus got there. I know the only reason Gus went there in the first place is cos they failed to lure Sheens from us.

 

[Needaname]

I thought he was already gone once Gus got there. I know the only reason Gus went there in the first place is cos they failed to lure Sheens from us.

I thought Sheens was sought after from when Gus was in the position and after the rejection turned to Ivan at the Wahs. Didn’t realise it was before Gus.

 

[Needaname]

I thought he was already gone once Gus got there. I know the only reason Gus went there in the first place is cos they failed to lure Sheens from us.

The word was that Matt Elliot was a great guy but as a coach, just struggled to get his message across to the players. So Gus did some investigating and what was suspected was confirmed by his meeting.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I thought Sheens was sought after from when Gus was in the position and after the rejection turned to Ivan at the Wahs. Didn’t realise it was before Gus.

Nah, Gus definitely came after. I know that because I remember reading that one of the Panther officials, maybe the CEO at the time, had told Gus the club had no idea what to do cos they thought they had Sheens over the line. If you remember that far back, Sheens was all but gone, and only stayed after one last ditch attempt from us. I think Gus joined them to do them a favour. He then poached Cleary from the Warriors mid contract (Notice a pattern?) and the rest is history.

 

[Needaname]

Nah, Gus definitely came after. I know that because I remember reading that one of the Panther officials, maybe the CEO at the time, had told Gus the club had no idea what to do cos they thought they had Sheens over the line. If you remember that far back, Sheens was all but gone, and only stayed after one last ditch attempt from us. I think Gus joined them to do them a favour. He then poached Cleary from the Warriors mid contract (Notice a pattern?) and the rest is history.

Fair enough. But the coaching contracting system was different back then. Cleary was set to start at Penrith in 2013 but Warriors weren’t having a bar of it and released him a year early.

 

[Lestronge]

Are you seriously suggesting that Benji be given more time. He has no coaching clue. Time to cut umblical cord. 2 spoons and possibly 3 in his time here is not acceptable, irrespective of being a Tiger legend.

When did I say that ? Go back and read actual English . I said he’s trying to blood the kids and giving them trust and confidence . But if the results don’t happen soon , he’s not long for the job . That’s what I said … it’s clear as day . Go cut your wrists somewhere else .

 

[Lestronge]

The guys who participated in talks of merging clubs and wrist cutting last night should hang their head in shame . And to label the players soft … LOL some pots calling kettles black right there ..

 

[Tom Shines]

The guys who participated in talks of merging clubs and wrist cutting last night should having thier head in shame .

I agree with you on this …they probably cried themselves to sleep ..

 

[Vicious]

The guys who participated in talks of merging clubs and wrist cutting last night should hang their head in shame . And to label the players soft … LOL some pots calling kettles black right there ..

You have been very passionate lately and I like it.
I agree that we centred our team around Galvin and him departing has made us have to virtually start all over again.
I agree that our young players all have obvious talent, but also all have deficiencies in their game that they still need to work on and that should be mainly happening in NSW Cup bar a major injury crisis when we have no choice other than to use them
This all being said & done we straight away looked 100 times sharper when Doueihi stated playing in the halves, surely this would have been noticeable in opposed training sessions, rather than let it fail on game day ?
And do you agree or disagree that we have an unbalanced lineup and are too slow across the park, no danger from long range and it allows opposing defences to compress and make it very hard to get out of our own danger zone because if it ?
The Bulldogs are regularly shifting the ball wide early to prevent this from happening to them, but they have the speed and quality out wide to make it work.

 

[Furious1]

I reckon its about time for the balmain side of the jv to start contributing more $$$

Of course you do. You just can't help it can you. Missed the point completely once again.