LIVE GAME Round 17v Manly

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Lestronge said:
I said many times i agree about Benji , but the stuff being said last night was garbage IMO.
So im calling out the guys who had the audacity to question people’s manliness , by doing exactly what you did last night to yourself .
I couldn’t care less about homosexuality . Many of my close friends are gay and great people .
I’m not out here questioning the clubs manhood… I’m throwing back in your face .
They played tough . The other team was more professional and seasoned . That win was an old man’s win for the sea eagles . Too many kids in the team .
And the Galvin stuff by the way is true , which is ironic because if you actually watch the styles we play you can see where the issues are . We’ve had to redesign the whole attack and no one knows where they’re supposed to be anymore , because the previous attack was soo unique and built around one 19 year olds game .
But nah the club is soft the players are weak and pea hearts ? Spare me .
You guys went on the pity party last night not me . and not once did I read anything constructive as to what the issues are . Just vile hate …
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I was one of the ones scratching my head as to what's going on. But if you want me to feel sorry for benji building a team around loyd Christmas. Well my answer is nah ! No Pitty from me or patients. I lost my patients 10 years ago.
 
Squater said:
It makes you wonder if he can't do it then no one can. I honestly don't know how to describe my disappointment. Every year teams get off the bottom and perform better except us. We are anchored to the bottom by bad planning bad recruitment bad management. Every bastard under the sun wants to milk us . Richo being the latest with his son . And apart from that we have pissed off every betting agency and ref in Australia to lose every 50 /50

And don't get me started on our bad luck.bula two games in a row and inch away from winning it but tackled just short.

Damn who broke a mirror . Who ran over a black cat?

Lol I'm gonna lose it
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It’s a never ending sicko joke isn’t it. The script is endless. TDS scoring with his last involvement in a Tigers jersey just the latest chapter.
 
Lestronge said:
Man I just want to come top 12 . We can build on that . I haven’t forgotten how bad the last 2 teams were . So I keep it in the back of my head , because when we are losing by 4 to the best team in the comp and the 4 time champs week after week , it would be unfair . Thats not defeatist or lacking the pursuit of excellence but rather , a clear understanding of where the club is at .
For me last night I thought the game changed when Seyfarth came on . He needs a spell in reserve grade . He gave away a couple of penalties at crucial times that allowed manly to get ascendancy when the grind was on. At the very least it lacked discipline . I thought when the attrition was on we were slightly gaining the ascendancy in a poor game of footy .
When he gave away those penalties , it allowed Sutton to get involved and influence the game , and manly were allowed to to execute in good field position .
He broke mentally . And I was always his biggest advocate . But man that was a game to be won in the mind last night . And guys like him don’t have the concentration or trust in his teammates to play like that . I would have been happy to win 2 nil .
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I thought the game changed when Sutton failed to penalise SAAB for disrupting Laliiii when he jumped higher than LL and stuck his ganglion arms out in front of LL's face and at no time had his eyes on the ball - his head never looked back over his shoulder or up at any time. LL dropped it and they score shortly thereafter. A 39 minute armwrestle over in a dud call.
 
Lestronge said:
Man I just want to come top 12 . We can build on that . I haven’t forgotten how bad the last 2 teams were . So I keep it in the back of my head , because when we are losing by 4 to the best team in the comp and the 4 time champs week after week , it would be unfair . Thats not defeatist or lacking the pursuit of excellence but rather , a clear understanding of where the club is at .
For me last night I thought the game changed when Seyfarth came on . He needs a spell in reserve grade . He gave away a couple of penalties at crucial times that allowed manly to get ascendancy when the grind was on. At the very least it lacked discipline . I thought when the attrition was on we were slightly gaining the ascendancy in a poor game of footy .
When he gave away those penalties , it allowed Sutton to get involved and influence the game , and manly were allowed to to execute in good field position .
He broke mentally . And I was always his biggest advocate . But man that was a game to be won in the mind last night . And guys like him don’t have the concentration or trust in his teammates to play like that . I would have been happy to win 2 nil .
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In your mind. You are broke mentally also. Nothing to see here. All over the shop. Seyfarth, ref's, fans. Which one is it?
 
Lestronge said:
Mate I’m giving you the energy that was given last night and you continue to do . I don’t back down from it .
Except the tucker thing . I shouldn’t have said that , and I apologise because I don’t actually think that , just a turn of phrase I didn’t put much thought into .
But I will say it again … you can’t people soft and lack underbelly , when you’re throwing the baby out with the bath water .
Well you can’t criticise… but the optics arnt good
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What did you say about me coward?
 
TSP said:
All I did was praise the Koe side because we some good and willing players out there. There’s opportunities for everyone to try to play first grade soon.

Nado, Roycey, Charlie and we get to see how Taylan goes. That’s been a contentious issue and everyone is hoping he nails it, whether he’s promoted soon or not.

And for my upbeat position I get a nasty sarcastic comment.

Ef that.
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That guy is the forum Karen mate.
Just laugh at him like the rest of us do.
Your comments were good.
 
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Lestronge said:
And so are ...
I’m calling it now TDS will change clubs twice before he finds success .
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Hey Lestronge

Reading back on this, I think you responded to the wrong reply.


Someone did mention the usual BS nonsense, but that was in reply to a rather normal comment.
That normalish comment is what you clicked Reply too, the next comment I think is the one you wanted to reply too. I actually kinda get the diatribe a little.
Over internet bullying and brave keyboard warriors.


Skipping it though. becuase faark the internet talks non stop about stuff that just doesn't happen (i.e. the trolly problem). .. I agree TDS won't find success at the first club he lands in.


I reckon he will go a little like Liddle. At best, a strong club performer. Likely wont' play origin. Although unlike Liddle, TDS seems more likely to get injured.
Not sure why the huge Agnst at missing this guy. Not saying he isn't good, but TDS won't be a Damien Cook or Cameron Smith.... He would be lucky to reach Issac Luke heights who seems to be the closest player in style to him.
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
Did anyone really think we had a chance last night playing Manly at home after all the negative press they copped lately.

Add to that 3 of 4 rookies in the spine and the ref looking to be turning a blind eye to Manly being offside, they looked to be up in our faces very early.
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I thought we were a good chance until Luai was ruled out.....was going to change my tip from us to them in my tipping comp but didnt....im 5/6 so far and theyre gunna burn me again
Multies them with penrith too got almost $6.
After the previous two games i was upbeat on our chances...thought wed learned something from those two games but geez yet again no idea in the red zone
 
twentyforty said:
Oh, c’mon mate. We all knew Galvin wanted out as soon as Sheens was unceremoniously booted out on his bum. And it comes as no surprise to anyone that a former Westfield Sports kid sees his future somewhere else.
If the wheels fell off on our season it’s due to mismanagement of expectations.
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Agreed . But why does the attack look shit . Actually watching it . No emotions involved .
The way we have 2 left sided players where the 1 who broke the nrl fitness record is the one sweeping , is a pretty unique attacking structure .
With our fullback locked in down the right as second receiver off the link man forward .
Who does that suit ? It was to unlock Galvin .
Now once the fittest guy in the club is gone , the second fittest who is squally at most clubs the fullback , so also the easiest to provide width to the edges , is the one doing the sweeping .
Now Bula is not first receiver , luai is posting up down the right a lot more , and every single member of the spine has had alterations to thier role in every attacking structure on the field .
Now the edges no longer have player X delivering the ball them it’s changed to player Y . So they’re building combinations as well .
The whole things a mess , and Benji himself said we had to redesign attacking structure with Galvin gone . Because the attack was built around him , to maximise his uncanny motor .
So if people are gonna say I’m scapegoating or I’m blaming things , actually come at me with football responses mate . Because I literally just dissected why i believe this , and why I think it’s clunky and a mess . It’s not just “GaLvIn LeFt aND We SUcK nOW” .
The spine haven’t adapted tot hire new roles , nor has the edges clicked either .
It will get there , but mid season is brutal to be coming up with this stuff .
 
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