LIVE GAME Round 18 vs. Storm

[weststigers]

I agree it could have potentially swung the game in our favour, but what other player in our team other than Doueihi even makes that line break ?
When criticising him we need to understand he’s the one that created the opportunity in the first place.

I have to disagree with you there. I'm not paying full price for half the job. Need to finish those chances.

 

[twentyforty]

I have to disagree with you there. I'm not paying full price for half the job. Need to finish those chances.

Isn’t Doueihi the lowest paid in the team? often you have to pay the going rate to get the job done exactly how you envision.

 

[Tucker]

Doueihi was the least of our worries the other night.
By my count he was very strong v Raiders, average v Chooks and solid v Storm.
Good comeback so far.

 

[batboy]

Isn’t Doueihi the lowest paid in the team? often you have to pay the going rate to get the job done exactly how you envision.

Aren't you talking about his next contract (Recently signed for next year)?

The one he's on atm, Is 600k+ from memory....

 

[innsaneink]

Just watching the replay now as I missed the game yesterday. When the team ran out did one of our mascots almost fall over? And the other run into the camera? Good start boys 😂

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Benny hill stuff

 

[batboy]

Doueihi was the least of our worries the other night.
By my count he was very strong v Raiders, average v Chooks and solid v Storm.
Good comeback so far.

Was quick to jump on TV after the Raiders game and mention getting a pay rise....
Was quiet last week, and will be this week as well I'd guess?

 

[weststigers]

Isn’t Doueihi the lowest paid in the team? often you have to pay the going rate to get the job done exactly how you envision.

This year he's at full freight. Next year is the low value extension.

 

[mtd#2]

It’s well known Richo is a tough taskmaster.

But he can’t build Rome in a day.

We are still trying to dismantle the giant titanium fedora statue in front of LO.

Chipping away at years of catastrophic apocalyptic management takes time.

HB will only give Benji so long to get his act together. They moved at a glacial pace to sack the board, now I think they want results.

After decades as a tigers supporter, I can say I am the most confident I have been since 05 we are on the right path forward.

 

[mtd#2]

Was quick to jump on TV after the Raiders game and mention getting a pay rise....
Was quiet last week, and will be this week as well I'd guess?

It was tongue in cheek. Cant blame him. He's worth WAY more than what we'll be paying him.

 

[batboy]

It was tongue in cheek. Cant blame him. He's worth WAY more than what we'll be paying him.

and WAY less than what we've been paying him....

 

[colinbh]

and WAY less than what we've been paying him....

Good player, good leader, good person. What more do you want?

 

[cktiger]

How’d you go ?

Actually surprised myself.
We won the game and he never made me look stupid once.

 

[hank37w]

Good player, good leader, good person. What more do you want?

More tackles, less mistakes.

 

[Buttface]

Good player, good leader, good person. What more do you want?

Debatable, not yet, I don’t know him but he has said some very selfish and divisive things.
I want some decent defence and for him to make up for all the years we have overpaid him for the rubbish he’s produced and for me to have to say I was wrong about him.
And for the Tigers to win every game.

 

[Kaito]

Nicho Hynes left training with serious ankle injury
apparently. Not sure if that's a good/bad thing 4 us

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Well. Its not a bad thing. In the real world.

 

[jirskyr]

Hughes is their main man - having a stellar season. While ever he is on the park they will trouble most sides and have done so, without Munster and Paps for the best part of the season. Wishart is probably one of their most improved, and Falaago is an attacking weapon.

Hughes is extremely calm in all situations and usually takes the right option. It's a wonderful attribute for his team to rely on, because Storm were otherwise fairly workman-like without being great. Hughes gives them 12-18 points differential.

 

[upthetigers]

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Our mentality has to be if we score 28 points it should be enough to win the game.

 

[Sco77y]

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Benny hill stuff

Classic 😂
And glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that

 

[jirskyr]

Kind of surprised the lack of commentary in this thread about the [edit] Faatape sin bin. I accept it was a borderline penalty but I reject the use of the sin bin, which is becoming a new epidemic in the game.

Generally speaking, a professional foul (PF) is a deliberate breach of the rules in order to prevent a scoring opportunity. NRL does not provide an official interpretation (that I can find). Historically in the NRL/ARL/NSWRL a PF has included an element of cynicism, i.e. not just an intentional foul but a cynical abuse of the accepted norms of play. This would include holding down in the tackle when you have conceded a significant line break, grabbing a player who takes a quick tap etc. Note how the concept of a "scoring opportunity" is very nebulous and is easily applied anywhere on the field where the play is far from being an imminent opportunity.

Faatape runs a silly block, but he also clearly turns away at the last moment. He does not pull or push the opponent, but he does place himself into the path where the opponent is leaping/landing. It's mildly dangerous.

This is where I differentiate between a cynical intervention of a player in possession (like a jersey-pull or a hold-down) versus an illegal challenge of a speculative nature. In the first instance like a jersey-grab the opponent definitely has the ball and you definitely prevent them advancing with it. In the Faatape incident, the opponent has not even touched the ball (Warbrick does not in fact lay a hand of the ball) and it's still speculative whether or not he would have ended up with the ball. Many many bomb attempts are dropped and you cannot get further from a possession guarantee than a bomb (as opposed to a pass, a loose ball or a grubber). This is why aerial contests are so rarely penalty tries.

There is no guarantee Warbrick catches the ball and he's short of the line, so what Faatape has done is infringe the ball contest, not a genuine scoring opportunity.

More than this however, I also fail to see how Faatape's block is any worse or more cynical than any other disingenuous kick contest, including the hundreds and hundreds of escort plays that are penalised every year. The ref in fact says to Api "they've ruled it an escort".

So if Faataape's one is the standard, so be it, but it's clearly not the standard. We should therefore expect to see a raft of sin bins for kick defence infringements, almost all of which involve an attacker being in some form of try-scoring or attacking attempt, with a defender deliberately interfering with their run. Doubly-so because kick defence is, almost by definition, typically a 1-1 (or at least "just a few on one") contest.

I was at the ground, but on the replay the commentators didn't seem that fussed. Maybe I am alone on this one. It certainly flipped the game on its head and removed the genuine contest - because Tigers and Storm were fairly evenly-matched for the other 70 minutes of the match.

Of course I don't watch all minutes of all NRL games, but Tigers so often seem to be on the negative end of these new or newly-tested interpretations, just like when Bryce Gibbs got 3 weeks for sliding into a try scorer (and almost never suspended since) or when Cowboys were permitted to challenge "the end of the match" call by the ref.

And like last week when we had 2 binned against Roosters and Annesley comes out to apologise that they were not the appropriate use of the bin, as if an apology makes a lick of bloody difference in the wash-up, or as if the apology comes with any kind of implied "get square" in coming matches.