Russian invasion of Ukraine

I have never at any time supported the Iranian regime, rather, I have consistently been against them. Including the despicable right wing US politicians that aided their installation, then later funded and armed them. Iran Contra ring a bell.

Equally as bad, Reagan and the right made a deal with them to keep US citizens as prisoners to assist in winning an election. Altruism remains absent in the current motives.

Probably the saddest part is that you are not a stupid person, yet still pretend that your deity and/or his family and agents were not involved with Russia to get him elected originally, won in 2020, didn't subsequently attempt to overthrow democracy, and is not only a criminal sex offender that also almost certainly raped children with his mate Epstein, is currently running possibly the biggest cover-up in history.
I attempted to have an honest conversation with you, but at this stage im really not sure if you are genuine or playing a character.

Here’s the problem with your rant: it’s a blender full of real scandals, half truths, and fan fiction presented as evidence.

Iran Contra
Yes, Iran Contra “rings a bell” because it happened. The Reagan administration secretly sold arms to Iran and diverted proceeds to the Contras, skirting U.S. law and oversight. That’s the scandal.
But calling the right as “aiding their installation” is historically sloppy. The Iranian regime wasn’t “installed” by Reagan-era U.S. politicians; it emerged from under the 'Democrat' Carter era of the 1979 revolution and the post-revolution power struggle inside Iran. Iran Contra was mid 1980s, long after the regime existed.

“Reagan made a deal to keep hostages to win an election”
Hostages were released on January 20, 1981, minutes after Reagan was sworn in that timing is real.
But the “Reagan campaign cut a secret deal to delay release” claim (the “October Surprise” theory) has been investigated, and a U.S. House task force concluded there was no credible evidence supporting it. You can believe it emotionally, you can’t declare it settled fact.

Tdog, Russia, 2020, and “overthrowing democracy”

Russia interfered in 2016 — broadly accepted as all foreign powers interfere in all foreign elections, to what extend beyond those gullible to Facebook ads?

What’s not established is your confident “deity and/or his family and agents were involved with Russia to get him elected.” The Mueller investigation did not establish that Tdog campaign members conspired/coordinated with the Russian government’s election interference.

He did not win in 2020. The election result was certified and he left office. Saying he “won” is just denial dressed up as certainty and an easy barb used to make the left unhinged.

Attempted to overturn the result? There’s substantial public record of efforts to challenge/pressure outcomes but if you want to argue that, all elections past and future need to be scrutinised in the same manner. There is numerous easily obtained video of Democrats trying to overturn the 2016 election, stick to documented actions instead of stacking extra conspiracies on top.

“Criminal sex offender” / “raped children with Epstein”
You’re mixing legal findings with internet allegations. A jury found Tdog liable for sexual abuse (civil standard) and defamation in the E. Jean Carroll case and explicitly did not find rape proven under NY’s narrow legal definition used at trial.
And “raped children with Epstein” is an extremely serious accusation there is no court finding establishing that as fact. If you care about truth and not slop, stop treating rumour and your personal hatred of a man as evidence.

“Biggest cover-up in history”
That’s not an argument; it’s a dramatic closing line.

You’re doing that thing where you sprinkle in one real scandal (Iran Contra) from 40 years ago and then expect everyone to swallow the rest without chewing.

If you want to be taken seriously, argue from verifiable facts, not conspiracy confetti.

edit notes- edited to take out the childish auto text put on here when you mention the Presidents name. Grow up.
 
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I attempted to have an honest conversation with you, but at this stage im really not sure if you are genuine or playing a character.

Here’s the problem with your rant: it’s a blender full of real scandals, half truths, and fan fiction presented as evidence.

Iran Contra
Yes, Iran Contra “rings a bell” because it happened. The Reagan administration secretly sold arms to Iran and diverted proceeds to the Contras, skirting U.S. law and oversight. That’s the scandal.
But calling the right as “aiding their installation” is historically sloppy. The Iranian regime wasn’t “installed” by Reagan-era U.S. politicians; it emerged from under the 'Democrat' Carter era of the 1979 revolution and the post-revolution power struggle inside Iran. Iran Contra was mid 1980s, long after the regime existed.

“Reagan made a deal to keep hostages to win an election”
Hostages were released on January 20, 1981, minutes after Reagan was sworn in that timing is real.
But the “Reagan campaign cut a secret deal to delay release” claim (the “October Surprise” theory) has been investigated, and a U.S. House task force concluded there was no credible evidence supporting it. You can believe it emotionally, you can’t declare it settled fact.

Tdog, Russia, 2020, and “overthrowing democracy”

Russia interfered in 2016 — broadly accepted as all foreign powers interfere in all foreign elections, to what extend beyond those gullible to Facebook ads?

What’s not established is your confident “deity and/or his family and agents were involved with Russia to get him elected.” The Mueller investigation did not establish that Tdog campaign members conspired/coordinated with the Russian government’s election interference.

He did not win in 2020. The election result was certified and he left office. Saying he “won” is just denial dressed up as certainty and an easy barb used to make the left unhinged.

Attempted to overturn the result? There’s substantial public record of efforts to challenge/pressure outcomes but if you want to argue that, all elections past and future need to be scrutinised in the same manner. There is numerous easily obtained video of Democrats trying to overturn the 2016 election, stick to documented actions instead of stacking extra conspiracies on top.

“Criminal sex offender” / “raped children with Epstein”
You’re mixing legal findings with internet allegations. A jury found Tdog liable for sexual abuse (civil standard) and defamation in the E. Jean Carroll case and explicitly did not find rape proven under NY’s narrow legal definition used at trial.
And “raped children with Epstein” is an extremely serious accusation there is no court finding establishing that as fact. If you care about truth and not slop, stop treating rumour and your personal hatred of a man as evidence.

“Biggest cover-up in history”
That’s not an argument; it’s a dramatic closing line.

You’re doing that thing where you sprinkle in one real scandal (Iran Contra) from 40 years ago and then expect everyone to swallow the rest without chewing.

If you want to be taken seriously, argue from verifiable facts, not conspiracy confetti.

So the main point is that you admitted to trolling and as a result you cannot be taken seriously.
 
So the main point is that you admitted to trolling and as a result you cannot be taken seriously.
Translation: “I can’t address a single point you raised, so I’m going to hide behind tone-policing.”

You didn’t refute anything.....not one claim, not one fact. You just waved your hands and declared victory.
That’s not a rebuttal. That’s weak. Pick a point and respond, or stop posturing.
 
He was right wasnt he. What a waste of money. Get back to us when Don spends 8 trillion in the Middle East and you can call him out on being a hypocrite.
Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Albo, Scomo, Dutton, they’re all the same every single politician. Say what they say to get elected then do the exact opposite. Politics is a dirty game & the sheep just follow. All hail your supreme ruler Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.
 
Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Albo, Scomo, Dutton, they’re all the same every single politician. Say what they say to get elected then do the exact opposite. Politics is a dirty game & the sheep just follow. All hail your supreme ruler Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.
As someone who lives in the U.S. half the year, I’ve got real skin in the game. And I’m not shy about criticising Tdog. People who follow politics beyond the surface level have plenty of issues with him. For example, it’s frustrating that he hasn’t moved faster on deporting more illegal aliens and ending insurrectionist and their sanctuary cities.
 
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Im still waiting for your side to change their nappies, i mean cure cancer.
What has that got to do with Iran ? It’s just virtue signalling nonsense . And before you accuse me of being anything , Im 💯 in the middle . You both seem like you have mental issues to me.
Anybody who believes t-rump isn’t a giant stooge , has been indoctrinated in a cult . And anyone who thinks some of the shit being spun by pro left media , like the ABC or CNN isn’t also propagandist nonsense has lost the plot as well.
My missus this morning woke me up to aircraft’s launching missiles at random buildings , as is being propagandised , and my first thought was that was clearly an asset being targeted . There was hardly anyone innocent in a targeted floor 20 stories up with no other part of the building hit .
We are all being played . And if you’ve allowed yourself to polarised . You’ve fallen into the trap . Both sides .
 
Translation: “I can’t address a single point you raised, so I’m going to hide behind tone-policing.”

You didn’t refute anything.....not one claim, not one fact. You just waved your hands and declared victory.
That’s not a rebuttal. That’s weak. Pick a point and respond, or stop posturing.

The FBI was directed to find all mentions of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in the Epstein files, one fact, now fact off troll.
 
I’m not Iranian first of all & I literally welcomed his death in an earlier post lol keep being delusional
I know because you wouldn't have such hatred of a man that has liberated the people from a brutal dictator and yet here we are. Why is this thread even here, it should be universally celebrated but the left just cant get beyond the colour orange. It will be studied in generations to come.

I replied to a post with you editing a tweet implying Tdog only went into Iran due to his polling numbers and not the threat Iran has been to the world through numerous Presidencies over 40 years. Those Presidents that did nothing and sat by why its people were oppressed. but yeah, Tdog is a something something and polling numbers. Follow along, stay on track and keep up.
 
The FBI was directed to find all mentions of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in the Epstein files, one fact, now fact off troll.
“‘Fact off’ isn’t an argument, a sign on honesty, character and ones intelligence maybe. You just tossed insults and a talking point. Address what I said, or keep shadowboxing.
 
No, and you know that, yet you still ask. He did though also fail Ukrainians to an extent through overly strict conditional weapons use, unlike the free rein provided to Netanyahu for another genocide in Gaza.

Still, neither he nor the originally reticent Obama attempted to blackmail the nation and were subsequently rightly impeachedfor it like Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.
No I really don't know an alternative set of events. Perhaps you can tell me when Russia invaded Ukraine and who was President of USA when it happened.
 
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