Sack him Now

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Well the club has one option regardless of the money it costs Taylor has to be sacked. The team has been on the decline since day one ..the club will be totally reined by this pretender .I just can not believe how this team is playing , what a poor performance today was ,unfortunately things are not going to improve the only way forward is a new coach …laugh all you want but until Taylor is gone things are never going to improve but wait there is always the excuse brigade.
 
Im super disappointed, but the honest truth is I barely expected more in 2015.

We cant afford to go down the parra track. we have challenges with Recriutment as it is without being a caching basket case.

Power through and lets evaluate after origin on 2016, then we wont be so forgiving.

heads up tigers fans and walk tall regardless of the result..
 
Forget about it wont happen and it should not anyway. We cant afford it and any coach deserves a fair crack.

How long was his deal? If its 3 years how on earth could we afford to sack him now? We would be a laughing stock. Any coach probably deserves 18 months - 2 years to try and make improvements.

Whilst I have not been a fan of taylor in general these cold, hard facts cant be disputed.

Last year we finished 13th and we lost 5 or 6 decent first graders . Austin, Fulton, Thompson, Blair, Gavet and Koribete. And we replaced those 6 with Kevin Nquimaa. So i failed to see where the optimisum was coming from pre season. Basically he walking into a dud roster.

I predicted 13th. However 13th with gradual improvments over the course of the season is different to bottom 4 getting worse every week if you know what i mean. The problem for Taylor is he seems to be stuck with his squad. He cant recruit even though he is probably desperate too. And he is clearly not gelling with this squad.
 
Unless there is a gaping big clause in the contract, ala poor performance/minimum win/loss ratio nets you zero payout with immediate effect, then I doubt he's going anywhere. We've already been burnt by Sheens' departure and doubt the board would be looking to part with the dirty moth balls lying in the WT purse again.
 
I'd like to hear what The Board is doing about this and the NRL for that matter. The Board appointed Taylor so I would like to know how they are interacting with Taylor in regard to our declining form and results. If the NRL have put the breaks on the clubs recruitment through the Board which I believe they control, to the point where we are heavily disadvantaged recruitment wise as compared to clubs that don't have the NRL s close scrutiny of the salary cap because they are not represented on other clubs' boards then the NRL needs to consider the effect this is having on the club and its supporters/members. There has been much written about how poor our previous administrations have been in relation to cap management and this is probably a main factor why we shed so many experienced players at the end of last year, I assume it was one of the NRLs strategies to get Wests Tigers back on track financially and cap wise (through the Board) however the net effect looks to be a wooden spoon or close to,with no chance of improvement in sight given no recruitment for next year. How does the NRL expect the club to survive through this or is that part of their motivation?
 
@cunno said:
I'd like to hear what The Board is doing about this and the NRL for that matter. The Board appointed Taylor so I would like to know how they are interacting with Taylor in regard to our declining form and results. If the NRL have put the breaks on the clubs recruitment through the Board which I believe they control, to the point where we are heavily disadvantaged recruitment wise as compared to clubs that don't have the NRL s close scrutiny of the salary cap because they are not represented on other clubs' boards then the NRL needs to consider the effect this is having on the club and its supporters/members. There has been much written about how poor our previous administrations have been in relation to cap management and this is probably a main factor why we shed so many experienced players at the end of last year, I assume it was one of the NRLs strategies to get Wests Tigers back on track financially and cap wise (through the Board) however the net effect looks to be a wooden spoon or close to,with no chance of improvement in sight given no recruitment for next year. How does the NRL expect the club to survive through this or is that part of their motivation?
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Its a very good point you raised. You can't inject yourself in a board when things are going pear-shaped to get a little stability, and then have them sit serendipitous and watch the last 15 weeks unfold. For mind, it means they are either privy to something we aren't, or the end justifies the means.
 
@cunno said:
I'd like to hear what The Board is doing about this and the NRL for that matter. The Board appointed Taylor so I would like to know how they are interacting with Taylor in regard to our declining form and results. If the NRL have put the breaks on the clubs recruitment through the Board which I believe they control, to the point where we are heavily disadvantaged recruitment wise as compared to clubs that don't have the NRL s close scrutiny of the salary cap because they are not represented on other clubs' boards then the NRL needs to consider the effect this is having on the club and its supporters/members. There has been much written about how poor our previous administrations have been in relation to cap management and this is probably a main factor why we shed so many experienced players at the end of last year, I assume it was one of the NRLs strategies to get Wests Tigers back on track financially and cap wise (through the Board) however the net effect looks to be a wooden spoon or close to,with no chance of improvement in sight given no recruitment for next year. How does the NRL expect the club to survive through this or is that part of their motivation?
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this is one of the best posts i have read on this forum, u should email it to the club and see if u get a response. or maybe some one on here can get it to the C.E.O. OR BOARD member. would love to see there answers.
 
@cunno said:
I'd like to hear what The Board is doing about this and the NRL for that matter. The Board appointed Taylor so I would like to know how they are interacting with Taylor in regard to our declining form and results. If the NRL have put the breaks on the clubs recruitment through the Board which I believe they control, to the point where we are heavily disadvantaged recruitment wise as compared to clubs that don't have the NRL s close scrutiny of the salary cap because they are not represented on other clubs' boards then the NRL needs to consider the effect this is having on the club and its supporters/members. There has been much written about how poor our previous administrations have been in relation to cap management and this is probably a main factor why we shed so many experienced players at the end of last year, I assume it was one of the NRLs strategies to get Wests Tigers back on track financially and cap wise (through the Board) however the net effect looks to be a wooden spoon or close to,with no chance of improvement in sight given no recruitment for next year. How does the NRL expect the club to survive through this or is that part of their motivation?
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Hi Cunno you have raised some valid points.

We have a Head of Football Operations who has now taken over the CEO duties. I have never heard diddly squat from him in either position. His position was created as a result of the Brian Smith report instigated by Mayer (correct me if I am wrong). We created a position which no doubt commands a significant remuneration and what has it got us so far? A coach that was given full reign with a average squad of players, no disrespect to Woodsie, Teddy or Farah, and a full off season and 16 weeks into the season we are equal last and in danger of losing the bye.
As you have said you would think the NRL need to ensure is that the Wests Tigers Brand is successful, unless they are looking to cull teams? But as you say being under the NRL management we are unable to rort the system as other clubs do. I really would love a breakdown of the existing player contracts to see what some of these guys are really being paid. I doubt we have any TPAs at all but I may be wrong. All I know is that at the current rate the Wests Tigers will be lucky to get half the free to air coverage next year which again devalues the Wests Tigers Brand.

Not sure how we dig ourselves out of this one after the performance of our play makers today!
 
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.
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Agreed. It's such nonsense to read post after post demanding him to be sacked. It won't happen, nor should it. He needs help. His ridiculous system was never going to work. He needs to use the assets he has before freeing up enough money to get rid of them and install first graders in their place. Simple as that.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.
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And after the Sheens fiasco why would the club enter into a coaching contract that wasnt performance based and gave the club a chance to get of the contract ?

Makes no sense that they would sign a guy to 3 years with no performance clauses.
 
Taylor does not command the respect a coach needs from his team. That is why we are so inconsistent. He cant motivate this team 2 weeks in a row. The squad is not as bad as the results are showing. We have a definate weakness in Moses (just not ready for NRL),too weak, needs to grow up in Metro & toughen up.
If they put in, week in,week out ,they can be competitive. The effort agaist Souths cannot be discarded as a fluke. They need the motivation from a coach who can achieve that each week. Taylor is not such a coach & yhe players have caught onto that. He is jst not tough enough for NRL standaerd.Talks a big game but delivers Sweet F A.
We need to bite the bullett now & seek an expierenced coach, because if he remains, ther will be no team ( our good juinors will get a targeted by rich clubs) & the support will be non existent.
 
@stryker said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.

Agreed. It's such nonsense to read post after post demanding him to be sacked. It won't happen, nor should it. He needs help. His ridiculous system was never going to work. He needs to use the assets he has before freeing up enough money to get rid of them and install first graders in their place. Simple as that.
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Understand the frustration stryker and GNR, but only 1 person in this thread suggested it. The rest of us agreed with the pair of you and made points as to why the Board aren't looking into this a little more from a management perspective, not from a sacking him POV.
 
The way I see it is as the previous posters said the boards hands are tied I can't see them paying Taylor out. It's too expensive and by doing that that's sending a very bad message to the nrl community that which ever coach signs with us their contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. Also we need to remember the nrl stepped in to provide funds and stability by sacking and paying out another coach wether warranted or not it just sends a message we haven't got our act together as an organisation and undermines the stability the club are striving for.
From what iv seen so far of Taylor I'll go on the record and I hope I'm wrong but he is out of his depth. He is nowhere near competent as an nrl coach. The board made the wrong choice last year was our watershed moment to fix the place and change the culture but they hired the wrong coach.
Inexperienced coaches like Taylor are great with teams that have been together awhile and are experienced they pretty much just require a game plan and they're right to go.
Our squad is in development we need a seasoned nrl coach someone who can come along put the squad together and help the youngsters develop to meet their potential. The reason our young halves are struggling isn't because they're no good it's because our current coach hasn't got the know how or ability to help them develop their own form of individual football that we can build the team around hence we have become a team of robots reason being it is a very simple one out style of football that they should manage so they can slot in to the team. It should be the other way around develop our young halves game then slot the team around them. My heart breaks because I firmly believe the tigers are in a golden age in a few years with the right development we very easily could have the next dynasty in the nrl but i just can't see it happening with the coach we've got.
 
@ryanda01 said:
OK this was before Droopy's comment… stupid timing...
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And, mine. Get rid of this fool NOW or this club is doomed. Members at yesterdays game were furious with Taylor and members bring dollars. Pissed of members won't join again. That's the bottom line.

Anthony Griffin is writing columns for QLD newspapers. Surely he can be lured back to NRL as caretaker coach (with options) to get things on track.

Or anybody other than the joke that is Jason Taylor.
 
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