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@pHyR3 said:
was a solid performance, this forum cant see much more than the scoreboard.

however, our season is essentially over now i think. unless we go through some cowboys-esque run to the finals we wont be finishing in the 8.

we had a few games we could have turned it around, the souths game obviously a standout. even beating penrith and then the eels would have put us in outside chance to snag a finals berth.

but right now, we can aim to finish outside the bottom 4 realistically. it was a better performance this week compared to last however, a LOT better.

Last week the team we played were a much more competitive unit.

Brad Arthur is far from impressed with his teams display http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/arthur-our-attack-ordinary/

You might say a better performance but it is only relative to the opposition we are playing.

You will find the lack of logic in your comment over the coming few weeks.

Enjoy the next 3 games.
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@TrueTiger said:
TITG,yes accountability has been missing for quite awhile,I agree,however with the new board and some time,things will eventually turn around and I really think this is what Taylor and the Admin are striving for..l

I have no doubt that is what they are trying to achieve. Its admirable and needed however Taylor has done nothing to suggest he is the man to bring this to the club.

Ok some of you have bought and invested in his talk, so did i but ive seen through it. Its cracked and starting to unravel.

He is a myth.

Completely understand you view TITG,however just a minor point,and I'm not being a smart ass,Taylor needs quality players to produce quality play…we have very few and the ones we have can't win it on their own..it comes back to our squad...it is very limited....
EG...if you want to win the Melb Cup you need a quality Thoroughbred,no good training a bush picnic horse to win the worlds most famous race,no matter how well you train it,the horse just isn't up to standard.....cheers mate...
 
I wouldn't call it a.solid performance.
I saw.glimpses.of the defense they are working towards.
I think the team we lost to.last night is what upsets some.more…than our own performance.
We. Are.lacking some real.leaders....that's different to experienced players
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
Ask

@pHyR3 said:
was a solid performance, this forum cant see much more than the scoreboard.

however, our season is essentially over now i think. unless we go through some cowboys-esque run to the finals we wont be finishing in the 8.

we had a few games we could have turned it around, the souths game obviously a standout. even beating penrith and then the eels would have put us in outside chance to snag a finals berth.

but right now, we can aim to finish outside the bottom 4 realistically. it was a better performance this week compared to last however, a LOT better.

Last week the team we played were a much more competitive unit.

Brad Arthur is far from impressed with his teams display http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/arthur-our-attack-ordinary/

You might say a better performance but it is only relative to the opposition we are playing.

You will find the lack of logic in your comment over the coming few weeks.

Enjoy the next 3 games.

i doubt i will, i just said we're a bottom 4 team. hardly full of confidence. penrith arent that amazing this year, played ordinarily against us at Leichardt.

this weeks performance was far better, and our head coach (who knows far more than anyone on this forum) agrees. he said we were extremely poor last week and we were. we weren't great this week but we were better.
 
Another pointless anti-Taylor thread.

Fair enough, you are sick of him, but as others have said, unless he tries to molest Marina Go, he's not going anywhere. Revisit this thread same time next year and we can talk about realities.

For now, we should merge all the "sack the coach" threads together and just let people vent to their heart's content.
 
So we're on track for our first ever wooden spoon, and people think it's unreasonable to be angry at the coach? Please
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
So we're on track for our first ever wooden spoon, and people think it's unreasonable to be angry at the coach? Please

Well according to some this won't be Taylor's wooden spoon. It will be everyone elses. Past and present coaches, players, admin staff. Everyone but him basically.
 
@jirskyr said:
Another pointless anti-Taylor thread.

Fair enough, you are sick of him, but as others have said, unless he tries to molest Marina Go, he's not going anywhere. Revisit this thread same time next year and we can talk about realities.

For now, we should merge all the "sack the coach" threads together and just let people vent to their heart's content.

Didn't we do this last week…?

Oh Look we did...
 
@BornBlack&Gold said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So we're on track for our first ever wooden spoon, and people think it's unreasonable to be angry at the coach? Please

Well according to some this won't be Taylor's wooden spoon. It will be everyone elses. Past and present coaches, players, admin staff. Everyone but him basically.

Yep. Because we were really on our way to the spoon last season after some of the best wins this side has had in 5 yrs against Parra and the Dogs. He's just too stubborn to have taken anything anyone previously had built and ran with it. This is about him trying to put his own stamp on the side and he's failing massively. You could have at least understood if Potter went down this road, but even he had the brains to follow on with what Sheens had in place.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@BornBlack&Gold said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So we're on track for our first ever wooden spoon, and people think it's unreasonable to be angry at the coach? Please

Well according to some this won't be Taylor's wooden spoon. It will be everyone elses. Past and present coaches, players, admin staff. Everyone but him basically.

Yep. Because we were really on our way to the spoon last season after some of the best wins this side has had in 5 yrs against Parra and the Dogs. He's just too stubborn to have taken anything anyone previously had built and ran with it. This is about him trying to put his own stamp on the side and he's failing massively. You could have at least understood if Potter went down this road, but even he had the brains to follow on with what Sheens had in place.

It just goes to show what I said ages ago,the reform we are having is a couple of years to late,Potter should have been given what Pasty face has now in the way of not having his hands tied and a hell of a lot less injuries…and he would have had us in about 7/8 place...but he wasn't given a fair chance...some of the players and management demanded change,Potter was to go........and here you have it their next choice....enjoy .....we have him for the next 2 seasons....
 
@pHyR3 said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
Ask

@pHyR3 said:
was a solid performance, this forum cant see much more than the scoreboard.

however, our season is essentially over now i think. unless we go through some cowboys-esque run to the finals we wont be finishing in the 8.

we had a few games we could have turned it around, the souths game obviously a standout. even beating penrith and then the eels would have put us in outside chance to snag a finals berth.

but right now, we can aim to finish outside the bottom 4 realistically. it was a better performance this week compared to last however, a LOT better.

Last week the team we played were a much more competitive unit.

Brad Arthur is far from impressed with his teams display http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/arthur-our-attack-ordinary/

You might say a better performance but it is only relative to the opposition we are playing.

You will find the lack of logic in your comment over the coming few weeks.

Enjoy the next 3 games.

i doubt i will, i just said we're a bottom 4 team. hardly full of confidence. penrith arent that amazing this year, played ordinarily against us at Leichardt.

this weeks performance was far better, and our head coach (who knows far more than anyone on this forum) agrees. he said we were extremely poor last week and we were. we weren't great this week but we were better.

So Taylor said it was good and he knows more than anyone on here but when Arthur said his team were average and soft and you think you know better than Arthur :roll
 
@Tiger Watto said:
LOL… We aint that broke.

We are guaranteed $21M over the next 3 years through the NRL Grant. As I said earlier, I wouldnt pay him out regardless. Let him take us to court. If he doesnt accept a reduced payout, let him know you will drag his name through the mud that no other NRL Club would want him. With his ego, he will take the reduced payout, & the next grant will of arrived by then. Solved!

I wouldnt sack him eitherway _. I just dont see the sence in people justifying keeping someone based on it being to expensive to pay them out. How expensive is it to keep them?!_

_Well I know where you stand - You and the Greek people stand as one.\
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Sign contracts but don't pay the money.\
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That stinks. I was always taught to pay my debts - and always have.
Taylor and WT signed a three year contract. Maybe there is only honour in NSW._
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
**<big>Coach Jason Taylor says South Sydney's loss to Wests Tigers is club's lowest ebb
July 07, 2009</big>**
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South Sydney coach Jason Taylor says Saturday's thrashing by the Wests Tigers was his lowest point with the club.
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Taylor held a clear-the-air meeting with his players before training as the dust settled following the 54-20 mauling by the Tigers.
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"It's the lowest the team's been in my time here," Taylor.
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"Regardless of the fact that we lost a heap last year, we were a confident team at the start of this season and would have had nightmares about us getting to that point.
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"But we've got there and now we've just got to bounce back from it."
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Taylor said his team's defence had been "non-existent" against the Tigers and it was time for his charges to start showing they were capable of playing in the NRL.
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But the former NSW Origin halfback said he had been encouraged by his team's response so far.
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"At the end of the day what we've been producing hasn't been good enough," Taylor said.
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"It starts with our training, we've got to improve it right there and then, that will spill over onto what we do on the field.
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"When I say our defence is non-existent, it's there at times and then it just disappears and that's just a concentration thing.
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"… You can't just say we've got to concentrate and then it will happen, we've got to do it at training and we've got to work hard at improving it and that's what we've started on today.
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"One of the things about it is our training sessions haven't been extremely poor. They've just been a little bit down a couple of times here and there but it's the NRL.
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"It's a high standard, so we've got to get it up there."
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Taylor's comments were backed up by his captain Roy Asotasi, who said the Rabbitohs were guilty of giving up against the Tigers in a performance he claimed was "unacceptable".
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The New Zealand international challenged his teammates to prove their critics wrong in Friday's match against Penrith.
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"The performance that we put out on Saturday night was not South Sydney, it wasn't our style and we know that deep down," Asotasi said.
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"We knew that we kind of gave up and this is a tough competition and you've really got to step up. It's a game that you play week-in, week-out and you've got to do it 100 per cent.
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"Our true colours will show on Friday

Some familiar comments in this Taylor article from 2009.

"What we are producing isnt good enough" or my favorite "Taylor said his team's defence had been "non-existent" against the Tigers and it was time for his charges to start showing they were capable of playing in the NRL."
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6 years on and still blaming the players and telling them they arent NRL players.

You forgot to mention he improved them.
 
@Russell said:
@Tiger Watto said:
LOL… We aint that broke.

We are guaranteed $21M over the next 3 years through the NRL Grant. As I said earlier, I wouldnt pay him out regardless. Let him take us to court. If he doesnt accept a reduced payout, let him know you will drag his name through the mud that no other NRL Club would want him. With his ego, he will take the reduced payout, & the next grant will of arrived by then. Solved!

I wouldnt sack him eitherway _. I just dont see the sence in people justifying keeping someone based on it being to expensive to pay them out. How expensive is it to keep them?!_

_Well I know where you stand - You and the Greek people stand as one.\
\
Sign contracts but don't pay the money.\
\
That stinks. I was always taught to pay my debts - and always have.
Taylor and WT signed a three year contract. Maybe there is only honour in NSW._

_Don't ever go applying for a job at Watto's joint :wink:_
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Russell said:
@Tiger Watto said:
LOL… We aint that broke.

We are guaranteed $21M over the next 3 years through the NRL Grant. As I said earlier, I wouldnt pay him out regardless. Let him take us to court. If he doesnt accept a reduced payout, let him know you will drag his name through the mud that no other NRL Club would want him. With his ego, he will take the reduced payout, & the next grant will of arrived by then. Solved!

I wouldnt sack him eitherway _. I just dont see the sence in people justifying keeping someone based on it being to expensive to pay them out. How expensive is it to keep them?!_

_Well I know where you stand - You and the Greek people stand as one.\
\
Sign contracts but don't pay the money.\
\
That stinks. I was always taught to pay my debts - and always have.
Taylor and WT signed a three year contract. Maybe there is only honour in NSW._

_Don't ever go applying for a job at Watto's joint :wink:_

_We dont hire Mexicans :wink:\
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@Tiger In The Gong said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Seriously, some of you need to have a think before posting. I understand emotions get high, but seriously, we're a broke club, who only just got over paying a previous coach out, (which ended up in the courts btw), now you want to go through that all over again?

We can't afford to sack him, what club can afford to sack a coach 2 and a half yrs out from his contract running out? The clubs hands are tied. The only thing that can be done is someone giving him a massive kick in the arse and telling him he's sending this club backwards at a rapid rate. Too bad the club can't afford a coaching director to come in and give him a hand, cos he's drowning without it.

And after the Sheens fiasco why would the club enter into a coaching contract that wasnt performance based and gave the club a chance to get of the contract ?

Makes no sense that they would sign a guy to 3 years with no performance clauses.

That's what I've asked on here a couple of times, if there are no clauses of that type , then this board and our dear departed CEO are as incompetent as we've always been.
As the NRL has the majority on the board , this disaster should be their responsibility, and they should pay him out
Actually, had the NRL members been added to the board before Taylor signed with us??
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Russell said:
@Tiger Watto said:
LOL… We aint that broke.

We are guaranteed $21M over the next 3 years through the NRL Grant. As I said earlier, I wouldnt pay him out regardless. Let him take us to court. If he doesnt accept a reduced payout, let him know you will drag his name through the mud that no other NRL Club would want him. With his ego, he will take the reduced payout, & the next grant will of arrived by then. Solved!

I wouldnt sack him eitherway _. I just dont see the sence in people justifying keeping someone based on it being to expensive to pay them out. How expensive is it to keep them?!_

_Well I know where you stand - You and the Greek people stand as one.\
\
Sign contracts but don't pay the money.\
\
That stinks. I was always taught to pay my debts - and always have.
Taylor and WT signed a three year contract. Maybe there is only honour in NSW._

_Don't ever go applying for a job at Watto's joint :wink:_

_He was signed to do a job and no doubt he ran the line that he would lift the level of performance of the club, which he has clearly failed to do. So if he hasn't fulfilled his side, the club should have made sure that there was a way to move him on
Especially after what has happened before at this club_
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
That's the clubs fault, not JT's.

They should have learned after Sheens to place KPI's.

Agreed… There is no way in hell I would offer a fixed long term contract without progressive KPI's reviewed every 6 months.
 
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