Sack Humphreys

You are so so very wrong
All they advertise and push is memberships
Joining football clubs to gain voting rights is never promoted/advertised
A handful of people know the difference between leagues clubs and football clubs, and then NRL club memberships
You sprout your rubbish

Absolutely nothing to stop anyone on this forum joining either of the football clubs.

…it makes no difference

This forum is a minute % of the fan base...we know more here than the general WTs community I would say.
The average joe blow knows none of this....how the club likes it.

Spin

Think for yourself, dont let the club think for you.
 
@happy tiger said:
Humphrey's KPI's would be based on a number of things

Sponsorship dollars

Membership Numbers

Club profitability

Team and coaching performances to a degree
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I would imagine this is the case and if so next season could be a troublesome one indeed for the CEO .Coach Sheens is gone whether he is here next year or not and this will have a flow on effect for many at the club including the CEO!
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@tiger4ever said:
different orange but a nice jersey….orange is a color no other nrl team uses so why not have it as a main.

Is that his role ...what jersey we go with
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No his role is to hire and fire the best coach for this club.Tim sheens has made 3 finals series(top 8 out of 16teams) .You do the maths.
 
@foreveratiger said:
Yeah miss the 8 with 7 internationals in the team and you say his still the man for the job , we believe in you Humpty .
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That's the crux of it or so it seems.
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I'm not a 100% sure but I think it was Humphrey's & not Noyce that was in charge that decided to go against Schburt's recommendation that Farah & Gibbs wouldn't get a 10yr player reduction in the cap because during that period we included when they played from SG Ball because there was no under 20's when they came into grade & we were fined for breaking the salary cap the following year. I stand corrected if I'm wrong but I'm sure someone with a better memory will verify who was in charge. Who ever it was, it would be the equivalent of us not listening to our accountant & still trying to claim it on our tax return.
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2010 - Humpty

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/long-time-tigers-did-not-breach-cap/story-e6frfgbo-1226054271381
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TIGERS stalwarts Robbie Farah and Bryce Gibbs have unwittingly found themselves at the centre of the club's $187,140 salary cap breach, which furious Wests officials believe was imposed on a dubious technicality over long-serving player allowances.

The Tigers comfortably topped a list of five clubs - including Gold Coast, St George Illawarra, Parramatta and Canberra - that were yesterday fined for breaking last year's cap. The NRL, however, came down hard on the Tigers for applying long-serving player discounts to both Farah and Gibbs 12 months ago.

As exclusively revealed by The Daily Telegraph last year, the joint venture claimed a $100,000 exemption for the pair, who were graded at Jersey Flegg level with its respective junior feeder clubs Balmain (Farah) and Western Suburbs (Gibbs) in 2002.

Under NRL rules, players are eligible for the discount when they have served eight seasons after being graded in Toyota Cup. But Farah and Gibbs graduated before the National Youth Competition was introduced and the Tigers argued its previous Under-20s equivalent, Jersey Flegg, should be seen as an equivalent for the purposes of the exemption.

Salary Cap auditor Ian Schubert disagreed, claiming that pre-Toyota Cup players could only be graded through the open-age NSW Cup. Tigers CEO Stephen Humphreys and Schubert have been engaged in a running battle over the rule's interpretation for the past year, with the Tigers also claiming Farah should be exempted because he became an international in 2002 after debuting for Lebanon.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph last night, Humphreys also disputed the remaining $87,140 breach - which was in lieu of educational expenses and living away from home allowances for younger players. He indicated the club would argue its case to NRL boss David Gallop.
 
Cheers Ink, I was O.S at the time & i remember the old man was bagging me about it so that's why I had a few points wrong. I'm not sure if you can answer me or someone else can but did that salary cap fine have anything to do with when he signed Gibbs & told him he would be a tiger for life to only months later tell him we were going to be releasing him? Because on top of the fine, mayby that $100,000 exemption we unsuccessfully tried to claim may have had to come off our cap the next year.
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I havent had an opinion against Humpty until I saw him on the game plan.

I think he embarrassed himself and the club.
 
@weststigers4life said:
Cheers Ink, I was O.S at the time & i remember the old man was bagging me about it so that's why I had a few points wrong. I'm not sure if you can answer me or someone else can but did that salary cap fine have anything to do with when he signed Gibbs & told him he would be a tiger for life to only months later tell him we were going to be releasing him? Because on top of the fine, mayby that $100,000 exemption we unsuccessfully tried to claim may have had to come off our cap the next year.
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No…it was an expemption for players that debuted in NYC, becuase Gibbs & farah debuted in Flegg for BOTH -keyword- Balmain AND Wests...they ruled because we had two jnr feeders so to speak, it was unfair.
Crap if youask me
 
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@weststigers4life said:
Cheers Ink, I was O.S at the time & i remember the old man was bagging me about it so that's why I had a few points wrong. I'm not sure if you can answer me or someone else can but did that salary cap fine have anything to do with when he signed Gibbs & told him he would be a tiger for life to only months later tell him we were going to be releasing him? Because on top of the fine, mayby that $100,000 exemption we unsuccessfully tried to claim may have had to come off our cap the next year.
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No…it was an expemption for players that debuted in NYC, becuase Gibbs & farah debuted in Flegg for BOTH -keyword- Balmain AND Wests...they ruled because we had two jnr feeders so to speak, it was unfair.
Crap if youask me
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Thanks, I can see why we fought it but Humpty must of been advised by our lawyer that we were a good chance of overturning the decision otherwise we wouldn't of rolled the dice. My bad, I thought the salary cap breach might of been behind the about face on Gibbs.
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a poor year and we want to sack everyone.

I often wonder if people realise these guys are real people with real jobs.

8 sides make the semies, 8 dont. Calling for every man and his dog to be sacked if you dont make the semies is massively over the top.

The end of 2009 was the time where Sheens should have rightly been under pressure, The 2005 premiership prob kept him in business, consecutive top 4 finishes, rightfully gets you enough points for a bad, year. If he has another bad year he will be sacked.

Humphries extended a contract of a coach after they finished top4 and had the club in good shape, this is normal behavior, he even put a protection clause in there about not making the semies being grounds to be sacked and lose half his contract.

In the NRL the difference between success and failure is very small. Failure is disappointing but given there is a loser in every game, a reality that fans would do well to accept as part and parcel of the game.
 
@Goose said:
a poor year and we want to sack everyone.

I often wonder if people realise these guys are real people with real jobs.

8 sides make the semies, 8 dont. Calling for every man and his dog to be sacked if you dont make the semies is massively over the top.

The end of 2009 was the time where Sheens should have rightly been under pressure, The 2005 premiership prob kept him in business, consecutive top 4 finishes, rightfully gets you enough points for a bad, year. If he has another bad year he will be sacked.

Humphreys extended a contract of a coach after they finished top4 and had the club in good shape, this is normal behavior, he even put a protection clause in there about not making the semies being grounds to be sacked and lose half his contract.

In the NRL the difference between success and failure is very small. Failure is disappointing but given there is a loser in every game, a reality that fans would do well to accept as part and parcel of the game.
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I agree Goose.
 
@tiga4eva said:
So why put a performance clause in a contract if your not going to activate it.
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What precisely does the performance clause say?
 
Sheens can be sacked if they fail to make the semies and only half his remaining contract is to be paid out.
 
@Yossarian said:
@Goose said:
a poor year and we want to sack everyone.

I often wonder if people realise these guys are real people with real jobs.

8 sides make the semies, 8 dont. Calling for every man and his dog to be sacked if you dont make the semies is massively over the top.

The end of 2009 was the time where Sheens should have rightly been under pressure, The 2005 premiership prob kept him in business, consecutive top 4 finishes, rightfully gets you enough points for a bad, year. If he has another bad year he will be sacked.

Humphreys extended a contract of a coach after they finished top4 and had the club in good shape, this is normal behavior, he even put a protection clause in there about not making the semies being grounds to be sacked and lose half his contract.

In the NRL the difference between success and failure is very small. Failure is disappointing but given there is a loser in every game, a reality that fans would do well to accept as part and parcel of the game.

I agree Goose.
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Totally agree 10000 percent Some need a bit of a reality check on here
 
@boonboon said:
@Yossarian said:
@Goose said:
a poor year and we want to sack everyone.

I often wonder if people realise these guys are real people with real jobs.

8 sides make the semies, 8 dont. Calling for every man and his dog to be sacked if you dont make the semies is massively over the top.

The end of 2009 was the time where Sheens should have rightly been under pressure, The 2005 premiership prob kept him in business, consecutive top 4 finishes, rightfully gets you enough points for a bad, year. If he has another bad year he will be sacked.

Humphreys extended a contract of a coach after they finished top4 and had the club in good shape, this is normal behavior, he even put a protection clause in there about not making the semies being grounds to be sacked and lose half his contract.

In the NRL the difference between success and failure is very small. Failure is disappointing but given there is a loser in every game, a reality that fans would do well to accept as part and parcel of the game.

I agree Goose.

Totally agree 10000 percent Some need a bit of a reality check on here
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You guys are right, we should just keep everything as it is. I'm happy that the CEO has addressed members concerns by telling us that sheens is wicked at moving gym equipment, I'm on board with all our player signings, I'm completely behind the way the coach uses our roster.

Seriously I don't get when mediocrity became ok? You talk about reality? The reality is in the real world if this management group had failed so hard they would be looking on seek.com. But because they are tied to something that creates so much passion in people they are given a pass. Look at it this way, if your Internet provider continually failed your expectations would you stick with them? No way, you would shop around and change company but it's not that easy with a sporting team, you don't have a history of watching Optus with your mates /family.

Also, it's ok to be critical. I want sheens gone- indifferent on the CEO but the bare minimum for me is sheens is shown the door.Am I now not a " real fan" for questioning the hierarchy at the club?

Reality is if we keep the current staff at the club we will sink into long period of being cellar dwellers. We will fail to attract better players/ sponsors. We will go back to the days pre JV of not being able to keeps quality JR's and generally we will not look forward to March anymore. I don't want that.
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Humpdy extended his contract for a year at the **start** of 2010…...after four straight years of failure....and then another three years extension a year later on the back of making semis twice in 8 years
 
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