Salary Cap Detail 2019 & 2020

[StarswithStripes]

@Curly_Tiger thanks for putting your time into this. First time I’ve seen something on paper that gives a good insight into our possible cap situation and where we are getting the best and poorest return on investment. When I look at these numbers I really struggle to see how teams like the Roosters keep within their cap limits. Something don’t add up!

 

[Curly_Tiger]

@Curly_Tiger thanks for putting your time into this. First time I’ve seen something on paper that gives a good insight into our possible cap situation and where we are getting the best and poorest return on investment. When I look at these numbers I really struggle to see how teams like the Roosters keep within their cap limits. Something don’t add up!

Yeah, it's tough to work out how we both pay the same for our squads, it can't all be TPAs and if it is, that in itself shows what a joke of a system that is, favouring some clubs massively over others

We haven't spent wisely, that's for sure and have wasted some of our money, so some of it is on us. Roosters on the other hand offers a far greater probability of success which I guess gives them a competitive advantage when it comes to the dollars. But you really have to think there are shenanigans going on and history shows that has been the case in the past so why wouldn't it still be happening today

A former board member once told me that we play by the cap rules 100%, which in a way when we had NRL appointed board members (do we still?) we had to do, but that they knew others did not. They even told me they had said the same to the ARL Chair and asked him to do something about it, but nothing happens

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Gotta say that if you add the $0.6m I had on the table as the 2020 cap space and add $0.7m for Matulino and $0.4m for Matterson it gets us to $1.7m
Not saying I nailed every individual player but maybe I'm on to something

 

[JD Tiger]

@Curly_Tiger Nicely done mate

 

[TheDaBoss]

Gotta say that if you add the $0.6m I had on the table as the 2020 cap space and add $0.7m for Matulino and $0.4m for Matterson it gets us to $1.7m
Not saying I nailed every individual player but maybe I'm on to something

Big brain

 

[TigerSJ]

Excellent post there Curly. Lots of thought and research put in by you for all of us to get a better picture!! Cheers.

 

[Tigers4ever]

Great work Curly!!! Wish we could see the figures for all the other Clubs as well. Would be interesting reading.

 

[Fitzy05]

Now that it's November. We are sure to see the value of new contracts quoted in the media. Clubs generally will just quote the length of the contract, which also can mean nothing to some player managers.

Anyway it's D day. All the behind the scenes can now come to fruition.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

@Curly_Tiger
With 15 players off contract next year with probably
definate five going Marshall,Lawrence,McQueen,Jennings and Taylor should considerably increase the 1.7 m thats been quoted remember MADGE HAS A PLAN

 

[Roar_Power]

Audited player salaries/ remuneration should be transparent and advertised every year. It would actually assist the NRL with their integrity in the eyes of fans.

 

[Fitzy05]

Hopefully there is a few announcements this month and Curly’s spreadsheet will have additional info that needs entering

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Thanks for the mostly positive feedback guys, much appreciated. I've updated for the two departures yesterday and put 2019 in the rear vision mirror, moving to 2020 & even an early look at 2021

What it shows is around $1.7m cap space for 2020 with 5 spots now to be filled. Spend it wisely I say

What it also shows is we have only 11 on our books for 2021 with 19 spaces to be filled and $4.9m to do so. This assumes all the upgrades from the development squad are only contracted to 2020, I'm not sure how this works

Anyway, as always, welcome any constructive feedback which might assist improvements to this summary


 

[Curly_Tiger]

Good to see Twal and Garner being signed up for 2021 & 2022 well before they come up for grabs given they were both expiring end 2020. Both no doubt get lifts for 2021-22 but probably also some or all for 2020 as well, which potentially chips away at our previously speculated $1.7m to spend for 2020
My guess is Twal & Garner were on $200k for 2019 which minimum lifts to $300k a season for 2021 & 2022 and maybe $250k for 2020
Aloiai, Mikaele, Twal & Garner, would you rate them all similar dollars? I'm guessing $300k for each of them and MCK a touch less at $250k

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Assuming Leilua and Latrell deals happen and making a couple of assumptions around other cheap deals needed to fit into our 2020 cap, this is what it could look
As you can see, unless we move on someone, it's tough to see another name player rounding out our squad with an estimated $135k remaining for a 30th squad member
As always, these salaries shown are best estimates from the available information and/or comparisons to similar players where no real information is available


 

[TheDaBoss]

not bad good size

 

[TJ21]

Loving the updates @Curly_Tiger thanks mate

 

[Tim Sheens]

@Curly_Tiger must have missed this when travelling last month, so thanks for the effort.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Looks like I missed Tommy T upgrade which could also impact 2020 so could be even tighter but perhaps the assumed 2020 payment for Utoikamanu would come down as it's unlikely we'd need to give him the same in 2020 if the Eels release

So probably he is more like $175k and Tommy T maybe around $200k in 2020. That would leave it pretty similar

 

[tigger19]

Abbey is only on a train/trial contract so would that make him a top 30 player?

 

[Tim Sheens]

As you asked for feedback, for my two cents, reckon knock off $50k odd from Walters and send it to Talau, as I see him as looking for opportunity and Stefano also being on an incrementally rising contract as his standing and age rises. Say, in the region of $220, 260 and 320k respectively to match up to the reports.. If we get him early for next year, $150k should cover it.