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Is that a question or a statement.. huh?
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@CocaCola said:Is that a question or a statement.. huh?
@Jerry Seinfeld said:@CocaCola said:Is that a question or a statement.. huh?
Simple question.Grow up.
@CocaCola said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:@CocaCola said:Is that a question or a statement.. huh?
Simple question.Grow up.
If you rephrase your comment into a direct question I can elaborate on what it is you are asking.
But I'll ask you a question..
Do you or don't you agree the groups I've mentioned were all offshoots factions of one another at some point?
I was trying to state, It doesn't matter which group is funded, as the money funnels down to each of these groups. The money is going towards the same agenda, removing the Assad regime. That is what Saudi & US & those rebel groups all want.
"Out of chaos comes order".. Who's order is the billion dollar question.
@underdog said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:But you dont choose to crap on those places that are 100 times worse than here you want to crap on those EXACT people(the ANZACS AKA BOGANS :crazy )**who fought tooth and nail so this country could be free of such oppressing lives for women.** :crazy
….but but... they didn't.
They went to Turkey as part of an invasion force and were slaughtered horribly on Turkish beaches.
You sir, are crapping on the ANZACS by getting your facts wrong.
@CocaCola said:@Yossarian said:Where is this evidence that the U.S. has ever funded or supplied ISIL in a meaningful way? The Americans supported the FSA. Given that the current group is largely a transformed AQI that would be counterproductive. It's pretty well established that the Saudis have provided financial support in the past but that's dried up. Of course it is their broad interest to support Sunni governments - that's why they're intervening in Yemen but I really doubt it is their intent to wipe out Shia. All of this is also tied into their longstanding rivalry with Iran for leadership of the Middle East.
Funding one is essentially funding the other. They are offshoots of one another.
Taliban –Al-Qaeda --Al Nusra --ISIL.. The US has helped fund & radicalize these groups.
Most of the funding is from the US & wealthy individuals from Saudi, Oman & Kuwait.
@formerguest said:@underdog said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:But you dont choose to crap on those places that are 100 times worse than here you want to crap on those EXACT people(the ANZACS AKA BOGANS :crazy )**who fought tooth and nail so this country could be free of such oppressing lives for women.** :crazy
….but but... they didn't.
They went to Turkey as part of an invasion force and were slaughtered horribly on Turkish beaches.
You sir, are crapping on the ANZACS by getting your facts wrong.
Writing before reading more of this thread, so sorry if repeating.
Yep those bl'00dy oppressive backward bustards from Constantinople. Fancy them whipping our butts and then having the audacity to elect a progressive officer from that campaign, in Attaturrk, as their leader and later renaming the country and capitatl for good measure.
Furthermore, what were they thinking when they shortly elevated the position of women, even giving them them voting rights waaay before most of the west decided it had become a reasonable proposition. Barbaric.
@CocaCola said:Myron C Fagan: The Illuminati and the CFR [1967]
https://youtu.be/ForvEyNABs8
A real eye opener on the link between International Bankers & Council of Foreign Relations (CFR).
Families such as the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Rockerfellors are in control of the US governments & the Worlds monetary system. There is a link between all the major wars in the past 200 years.
Please view the link 😛ray:
@CocaCola said:Myron C Fagan: The Illuminati and the CFR [1967]
https://youtu.be/ForvEyNABs8
A real eye opener on the link between International Bankers & Council of Foreign Relations (CFR).
Families such as the Rothschilds, Schiffs, Rockerfellors are in control of the US governments & the Worlds monetary system. There is a link between all the major wars in the past 200 years.
Please view the link 😛ray:
@Tony33 said:http://uplife.in/watch-how-usa-made-isis-very-very-shocking/
Everyone who doesn't believe that America funds these radicals for their own personal benefit needs to watch the above clip. Whether they want it to escalate to the heights that it does is another story but there is no denying that they are responsible for the emergence of ISIS and the consequences since. Any other argument in relation to this is void IMO as without their foreign policy their would be no ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like.
Iran is Shia whilst Saudia Arabia is Sunni. That is why they both hate each other and would love nothing more then to annihilate one another.
America is a close ally of Saudi Arabia and both strongly oppose Iran.
These terrorist organisations such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda are extreme interpreters of the Quran under a Sunni denomination which is called Wahhabism. This Wahhabism originates from Saudi Arabia.
Saudia Arabia funds ISIS as do other Sunni countries such as Turkey, Yemen, Pakistan. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia, so as far as I'm concerned they're not innocent either, because surely they would have the intel to know that one of their allIES is supporting terrorist groups. But of course, they turn a blind eye when it is one of their own.
The funny thing was when the former King of Saudi Arabia died recently, Obama attended the funeral of the very man who funded the terrorists which ultimately contributed to 9/11\. What a world we live in.
Does anyone truly believe that the mighty USA couldn't destroy a small terrorist group that is confined in specific areas within a week if it truly wanted to ? You have American congressmen and officials telling there people that it could take 30 years to rid the world of ISIS. How naive do you have to be to not understand that there is something more going on behind the scenes. I don't know what it is exactly but the USA does not want to eliminate ISIS.
I love America, it is a beautiful country one that i have visited often and one that i will definitely visit again many times. It has given us so many luxuries but I am very very skeptical of their foreign policy. They manipulate a lot of things to benefit themselves no matter how much carnage or damage it does to other counties or regions.
So don't give me this crap about America saving the world and being all innocent because without their foreign policy the world would be a lot better then it is today.
Just watch the video…
@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:http://uplife.in/watch-how-usa-made-isis-very-very-shocking/
Everyone who doesn't believe that America funds these radicals for their own personal benefit needs to watch the above clip. Whether they want it to escalate to the heights that it does is another story but there is no denying that they are responsible for the emergence of ISIS and the consequences since. Any other argument in relation to this is void IMO as without their foreign policy their would be no ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like.
Iran is Shia whilst Saudia Arabia is Sunni. That is why they both hate each other and would love nothing more then to annihilate one another.
America is a close ally of Saudi Arabia and both strongly oppose Iran.
These terrorist organisations such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda are extreme interpreters of the Quran under a Sunni denomination which is called Wahhabism. This Wahhabism originates from Saudi Arabia.
Saudia Arabia funds ISIS as do other Sunni countries such as Turkey, Yemen, Pakistan. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia, so as far as I'm concerned they're not innocent either, because surely they would have the intel to know that one of their allIES is supporting terrorist groups. But of course, they turn a blind eye when it is one of their own.
The funny thing was when the former King of Saudi Arabia died recently, Obama attended the funeral of the very man who funded the terrorists which ultimately contributed to 9/11\. What a world we live in.
Does anyone truly believe that the mighty USA couldn't destroy a small terrorist group that is confined in specific areas within a week if it truly wanted to ? You have American congressmen and officials telling there people that it could take 30 years to rid the world of ISIS. How naive do you have to be to not understand that there is something more going on behind the scenes. I don't know what it is exactly but the USA does not want to eliminate ISIS.
I love America, it is a beautiful country one that i have visited often and one that i will definitely visit again many times. It has given us so many luxuries but I am very very skeptical of their foreign policy. They manipulate a lot of things to benefit themselves no matter how much carnage or damage it does to other counties or regions.
So don't give me this crap about America saving the world and being all innocent because without their foreign policy the world would be a lot better then it is today.
Just watch the video…
You make a lot of good points Tony that I agree with.However two things stick out to me as "inconvenient truths" you dont want to admit t😵ne is to defeat ISIS could well take 30 years because ISIS now thanks to digital media isnt just in Iraq/syria etc as ISIS is now getting members prop up all over the world as rogue lone wolf styled terrorist and two as they have grown up being taught that the west is evil.
The propaganda on arabic TV is completely sickening in respect to how violent and how much hatred they spread towards America.For all its wrongs that America is responsible for over the last 75 years(as leaders of the free world) has saved the world from much eviler forces it has faced.It quite simply is a case of better the devil you know.You know when the boss you hated at work gets replaced by an even bigger asshole.This is Americas government.
@Tony33 said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:http://uplife.in/watch-how-usa-made-isis-very-very-shocking/
Everyone who doesn't believe that America funds these radicals for their own personal benefit needs to watch the above clip. Whether they want it to escalate to the heights that it does is another story but there is no denying that they are responsible for the emergence of ISIS and the consequences since. Any other argument in relation to this is void IMO as without their foreign policy their would be no ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like.
Iran is Shia whilst Saudia Arabia is Sunni. That is why they both hate each other and would love nothing more then to annihilate one another.
America is a close ally of Saudi Arabia and both strongly oppose Iran.
These terrorist organisations such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda are extreme interpreters of the Quran under a Sunni denomination which is called Wahhabism. This Wahhabism originates from Saudi Arabia.
Saudia Arabia funds ISIS as do other Sunni countries such as Turkey, Yemen, Pakistan. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia, so as far as I'm concerned they're not innocent either, because surely they would have the intel to know that one of their allIES is supporting terrorist groups. But of course, they turn a blind eye when it is one of their own.
The funny thing was when the former King of Saudi Arabia died recently, Obama attended the funeral of the very man who funded the terrorists which ultimately contributed to 9/11\. What a world we live in.
Does anyone truly believe that the mighty USA couldn't destroy a small terrorist group that is confined in specific areas within a week if it truly wanted to ? You have American congressmen and officials telling there people that it could take 30 years to rid the world of ISIS. How naive do you have to be to not understand that there is something more going on behind the scenes. I don't know what it is exactly but the USA does not want to eliminate ISIS.
I love America, it is a beautiful country one that i have visited often and one that i will definitely visit again many times. It has given us so many luxuries but I am very very skeptical of their foreign policy. They manipulate a lot of things to benefit themselves no matter how much carnage or damage it does to other counties or regions.
So don't give me this crap about America saving the world and being all innocent because without their foreign policy the world would be a lot better then it is today.
Just watch the video…
You make a lot of good points Tony that I agree with.However two things stick out to me as "inconvenient truths" you dont want to admit t😵ne is to defeat ISIS could well take 30 years because ISIS now thanks to digital media isnt just in Iraq/syria etc as ISIS is now getting members prop up all over the world as rogue lone wolf styled terrorist and two as they have grown up being taught that the west is evil.
The propaganda on arabic TV is completely sickening in respect to how violent and how much hatred they spread towards America.For all its wrongs that America is responsible for over the last 75 years(as leaders of the free world) has saved the world from much eviler forces it has faced.It quite simply is a case of better the devil you know.You know when the boss you hated at work gets replaced by an even bigger asshole.This is Americas government.
Mate all America has to do is destroy a few ISIS strongholds in 2 countries and that threat is over.
You will never kill off the lone wolf radicals who have their own messed up reasons for wanting to blow themselves up and harm others. These people are everywhere and fight for reasons other than religion as well.
But if America was truely serious about killing off ISIS they would elimiante 4-5 strongholds in 2 countries within a week and 95% of the threat is over.
When that poor Jordanian soldier was burnt alive, the King of Jordan piloted fighter jets the next day and killed 8000 ISIS members in two days.
That is how a country who is serious about protecting its people and way of life should react. Obama and the USA on the other hand provided all this spin and garbage to suit its own foreign policy and to this day have done nothing but prolong the threat of ISIS.
In regards to your "Arabic TV" comment you obviously don't speak the language or come from the area so how would you have any idea what is going on those networks or the region apart from all your selective reading and veiwing ? You may have seen one networks propoganda but how is that any different to CNN's portrayal of the middle east as a whole ?
In fact we have some "arabic" channels at home and I rarely ever see America mentioned in a bad light. All I see is how nations are forced to rely on America and its allies foreign policy for their own stability.
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@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:http://uplife.in/watch-how-usa-made-isis-very-very-shocking/
Everyone who doesn't believe that America funds these radicals for their own personal benefit needs to watch the above clip. Whether they want it to escalate to the heights that it does is another story but there is no denying that they are responsible for the emergence of ISIS and the consequences since. Any other argument in relation to this is void IMO as without their foreign policy their would be no ISIS, Al-Qaeda and the like.
Iran is Shia whilst Saudia Arabia is Sunni. That is why they both hate each other and would love nothing more then to annihilate one another.
America is a close ally of Saudi Arabia and both strongly oppose Iran.
These terrorist organisations such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda are extreme interpreters of the Quran under a Sunni denomination which is called Wahhabism. This Wahhabism originates from Saudi Arabia.
Saudia Arabia funds ISIS as do other Sunni countries such as Turkey, Yemen, Pakistan. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia, so as far as I'm concerned they're not innocent either, because surely they would have the intel to know that one of their allIES is supporting terrorist groups. But of course, they turn a blind eye when it is one of their own.
The funny thing was when the former King of Saudi Arabia died recently, Obama attended the funeral of the very man who funded the terrorists which ultimately contributed to 9/11\. What a world we live in.
Does anyone truly believe that the mighty USA couldn't destroy a small terrorist group that is confined in specific areas within a week if it truly wanted to ? You have American congressmen and officials telling there people that it could take 30 years to rid the world of ISIS. How naive do you have to be to not understand that there is something more going on behind the scenes. I don't know what it is exactly but the USA does not want to eliminate ISIS.
I love America, it is a beautiful country one that i have visited often and one that i will definitely visit again many times. It has given us so many luxuries but I am very very skeptical of their foreign policy. They manipulate a lot of things to benefit themselves no matter how much carnage or damage it does to other counties or regions.
So don't give me this crap about America saving the world and being all innocent because without their foreign policy the world would be a lot better then it is today.
Just watch the video…
You make a lot of good points Tony that I agree with.However two things stick out to me as "inconvenient truths" you dont want to admit t😵ne is to defeat ISIS could well take 30 years because ISIS now thanks to digital media isnt just in Iraq/syria etc as ISIS is now getting members prop up all over the world as rogue lone wolf styled terrorist and two as they have grown up being taught that the west is evil.
The propaganda on arabic TV is completely sickening in respect to how violent and how much hatred they spread towards America.For all its wrongs that America is responsible for over the last 75 years(as leaders of the free world) has saved the world from much eviler forces it has faced.It quite simply is a case of better the devil you know.You know when the boss you hated at work gets replaced by an even bigger asshole.This is Americas government.
Mate all America has to do is destroy a few ISIS strongholds in 2 countries and that threat is over.
You will never kill off the lone wolf radicals who have their own messed up reasons for wanting to blow themselves up and harm others. These people are everywhere and fight for reasons other than religion as well.
But if America was truely serious about killing off ISIS they would elimiante 4-5 strongholds in 2 countries within a week and 95% of the threat is over.
When that poor Jordanian soldier was burnt alive, the King of Jordan piloted fighter jets the next day and killed 8000 ISIS members in two days.
That is how a country who is serious about protecting its people and way of life should react. Obama and the USA on the other hand provided all this spin and garbage to suit its own foreign policy and to this day have done nothing but prolong the threat of ISIS.
In regards to your "Arabic TV" comment you obviously don't speak the language or come from the area so how would you have any idea what is going on those networks or the region apart from all your selective reading and veiwing ? You may have seen one networks propoganda but how is that any different to CNN's portrayal of the middle east as a whole ?
In fact we have some "arabic" channels at home and I rarely ever see America mentioned in a bad light. All I see is how nations are forced to rely on America and its allies foreign policy for their own stability.
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Ok.Do you want another 300 links just like it.Dont know how many US kids Ive seen like this on CNN pal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3OYjKZ2Cu8
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I want to state though I no doubt believe the arabic channels you watch are far more normal and fairer than these ones but tony you gotta learn mate to stop defending the indefensible just cause its from your background(kinda).
Than these ones.
@Tony33 said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:You make a lot of good points Tony that I agree with.However two things stick out to me as "inconvenient truths" you dont want to admit t😵ne is to defeat ISIS could well take 30 years because ISIS now thanks to digital media isnt just in Iraq/syria etc as ISIS is now getting members prop up all over the world as rogue lone wolf styled terrorist and two as they have grown up being taught that the west is evil.
The propaganda on arabic TV is completely sickening in respect to how violent and how much hatred they spread towards America.For all its wrongs that America is responsible for over the last 75 years(as leaders of the free world) has saved the world from much eviler forces it has faced.It quite simply is a case of better the devil you know.You know when the boss you hated at work gets replaced by an even bigger asshole.This is Americas government.
Mate all America has to do is destroy a few ISIS strongholds in 2 countries and that threat is over.
You will never kill off the lone wolf radicals who have their own messed up reasons for wanting to blow themselves up and harm others. These people are everywhere and fight for reasons other than religion as well.
But if America was truely serious about killing off ISIS they would elimiante 4-5 strongholds in 2 countries within a week and 95% of the threat is over.
When that poor Jordanian soldier was burnt alive, the King of Jordan piloted fighter jets the next day and killed 8000 ISIS members in two days.
That is how a country who is serious about protecting its people and way of life should react. Obama and the USA on the other hand provided all this spin and garbage to suit its own foreign policy and to this day have done nothing but prolong the threat of ISIS.
In regards to your "Arabic TV" comment you obviously don't speak the language or come from the area so how would you have any idea what is going on those networks or the region apart from all your selective reading and veiwing ? You may have seen one networks propoganda but how is that any different to CNN's portrayal of the middle east as a whole ?
In fact we have some "arabic" channels at home and I rarely ever see America mentioned in a bad light. All I see is how nations are forced to rely on America and its allies foreign policy for their own stability.
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Ok.Do you want another 300 links just like it.Dont know how many US kids Ive seen like this on CNN pal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3OYjKZ2Cu8
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I want to state though I no doubt believe the arabic channels you watch are far more normal and fairer than these ones but tony you gotta learn mate to stop defending the indefensible just cause its from your background(kinda).
Than these ones.
How am I defending anyone Jerry ?
I hare these terrorists more than anyone because they are a direct threat to my family overseas and now it seems there threat in Australia is imminent.
All I'm saying is don't underestimate the role US foreign policy plays in the turmoil and instability. They are the least innocent party in the whole mess.
If you watched the video i posted the link to you will see that they are responsible for these terrorist groups. If that was intentionaly or inadvertently I'm sure we will have very differing opinions on that.
Either way you can't deny the role America has played in the emergence of these terrorist organisations and the consequences that have followed
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@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:@Jerry Seinfeld said:@Tony33 said:Mate all America has to do is destroy a few ISIS strongholds in 2 countries and that threat is over.
You will never kill off the lone wolf radicals who have their own messed up reasons for wanting to blow themselves up and harm others. These people are everywhere and fight for reasons other than religion as well.
But if America was truely serious about killing off ISIS they would elimiante 4-5 strongholds in 2 countries within a week and 95% of the threat is over.
When that poor Jordanian soldier was burnt alive, the King of Jordan piloted fighter jets the next day and killed 8000 ISIS members in two days.
That is how a country who is serious about protecting its people and way of life should react. Obama and the USA on the other hand provided all this spin and garbage to suit its own foreign policy and to this day have done nothing but prolong the threat of ISIS.
In regards to your "Arabic TV" comment you obviously don't speak the language or come from the area so how would you have any idea what is going on those networks or the region apart from all your selective reading and veiwing ? You may have seen one networks propoganda but how is that any different to CNN's portrayal of the middle east as a whole ?
In fact we have some "arabic" channels at home and I rarely ever see America mentioned in a bad light. All I see is how nations are forced to rely on America and its allies foreign policy for their own stability.
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Ok.Do you want another 300 links just like it.Dont know how many US kids Ive seen like this on CNN pal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3OYjKZ2Cu8
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I want to state though I no doubt believe the arabic channels you watch are far more normal and fairer than these ones but tony you gotta learn mate to stop defending the indefensible just cause its from your background(kinda).
Than these ones.
How am I defending anyone Jerry ?
I hare these terrorists more than anyone because they are a direct threat to my family overseas and now it seems there threat in Australia is imminent.
All I'm saying is don't underestimate the role US foreign policy plays in the turmoil and instability. They are the least innocent party in the whole mess.
If you watched the video i posted the link to you will see that they are responsible for these terrorist groups. If that was intentionaly or inadvertently I'm sure we will have very differing opinions on that.
Either way you can't deny the role America has played in the emergence of these terrorist organisations and the consequences that have followed
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Tony I watched that video for 2 and a half minutes until that stupid Keaton woman got up and said before the US invasion Saddam Hussein treated his minorities quite well.
YEAH Whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxqOedvOSRQ