Sharks fined $1 mil, Flanno gone for 12 months

[pHyR3]

hmmm in that case i think 9 months is light for flanno.

thought it was a minimum of 9 months before he can even submit an application to be registered. Dave said 2 years for assistant and even then it was unlikely he'd be admitted, so i'm not sure if we'd see shane coaching in a years time…

 

[system]

There are probably a lot of players examining their working future right about now.

Even the Sharks own internal audit revealed they were administered the banned peptides. I reckon ASADA's findings are going to be brutal.

Agreed… Bruno made note of it and today's breach notice vindicates Damien Irvine somewhat.

To think he was kicked out of the club for doing the right thing, months after securing the development/life line for his beloved clubs future?

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[balmain boy]

There are probably a lot of players examining their working future right about now.

Even the Sharks own internal audit revealed they were administered the banned peptides. I reckon ASADA's findings are going to be brutal.

Agreed… Bruno made note of it and today's breach notice vindicates Damien Irvine somewhat.

To think he was kicked out of the club for doing the right thing, months after securing the development/life line for his beloved clubs future?

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All shows what a basketcase the Sharks are.

Do the wrong thing. Cover it up. Get found out. Board does audit. CEO suspends staff accountable for the problem. Players complain. CEO gets sacked. New CEO re-appoints suspended staff. NRL conducts audit. Re-suspends key staff involved. = Sharks are a basketcase and deserve everything they get!
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Good luck next year without your coach and half your playing squad (ASADA findings pending).

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Do the wrong thing. Cover it up. Get found out. Board does audit. CEO suspends staff accountable for the problem. Players complain. CEO gets sacked. New CEO re-appoints suspended staff. NRL conducts audit. Re-suspends key staff involved. = Sharks are a basketcase and deserve everything they get!
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Good luck next year without your coach and half your playing squad (ASADA findings pending).

Yeah,sad tale and just shows the underhand methods people will go to to gain an advantage,i wasn't there but talking to League people the only Person at the Sharks that didn't know what was going on was Chairman Irvine and he was given the boot when he tried to salvage the situation.
The other thing in this mess is who in hell are advising the Central Qld. Consortium,trying to gain an entry into the NRL via a still breathing corpse is not the way to do it,it will hang around their necks for the life of the Franchise.

 

[system]

In the end I would love to watch the Sharks fold and die.

They are a scum club who have been nothing but backstabbing leeches for the entirety of their miserable existence.

Taking bail out after bail out and stabbing the ARL in the back to side with Superleague

 

[cqtiger]

Do the wrong thing. Cover it up. Get found out. Board does audit. CEO suspends staff accountable for the problem. Players complain. CEO gets sacked. New CEO re-appoints suspended staff. NRL conducts audit. Re-suspends key staff involved. = Sharks are a basketcase and deserve everything they get!
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Good luck next year without your coach and half your playing squad (ASADA findings pending).

Yeah,sad tale and just shows the underhand methods people will go to to gain an advantage,i wasn't there but talking to League people the only Person at the Sharks that didn't know what was going on was Chairman Irvine and he was given the boot when he tried to salvage the situation.
The other thing in this mess is who in hell are advising the Central Qld. Consortium,trying to gain an entry into the NRL via a still breathing corpse is not the way to do it,it will hang around their necks for the life of the Franchise.

Basil, it is the only way CQ will get close to having a team here. Whether the corpse is still warm or stone cold.

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[Juro]

why not?

take car fines for instance. I think car fines should be as a proportion of one's income (with some kind of limit) just like many scandanavian countries have. Giving a $500 fine on someone on a 25k salary is FAR worse than the same fine on a multi millionaire. How on earth with a couple of hundred dollars deter a multi millionaire from not speeding or whatever again? it wont.

similarly, fining some almost bankrupt club 2 million dollars is completely different from fining a club with mega-rich backers.

How is that supposed to work? Based on your salary? total income? wealth?

Take an example of a teenager with a millionaire dad. What is the fine?

 

[Newtown]

not harsh at all, i think it's right on the money. fine a little light, but fair given the circumstances

also, the doping did seem a bit more systemic and widespread at essendon. plus they are a lot richer

NRL cannot decide the severity of fines/suspension on how rich or poor the club is. In fact the reason the club allowed/encouraged the doping to take place was to win more games, obtain bigger following and more sponsorship thereby making the club much richer. So if another poor club took the same path they would expect similar lenient fines/suspensions? No justice in that.

Exactly Newtown. pHyR3 just doesn't seem to get it. **Their financial circumstances can have no bearing on the punishments at all.**

why not?

take car fines for instance. I think car fines should be as a proportion of one's income (with some kind of limit) just like many scandanavian countries have. Giving a $500 fine on someone on a 25k salary is FAR worse than the same fine on a multi millionaire. How on earth with a couple of hundred dollars deter a multi millionaire from not speeding or whatever again? it wont.

similarly, fining some almost bankrupt club 2 million dollars is completely different from fining a club with mega-rich backers.

Irvine from the Sharks reported on the news this morning that (I) they have a spare resource property worth at least $9 milion (I haven't the full details) and (ii) the fine from the NRL will not deter their progress into future years at all.

 

[cqtiger]

NRL cannot decide the severity of fines/suspension on how rich or poor the club is. In fact the reason the club allowed/encouraged the doping to take place was to win more games, obtain bigger following and more sponsorship thereby making the club much richer. So if another poor club took the same path they would expect similar lenient fines/suspensions? No justice in that.

Exactly Newtown. pHyR3 just doesn't seem to get it. **Their financial circumstances can have no bearing on the punishments at all.**

why not?

take car fines for instance. I think car fines should be as a proportion of one's income (with some kind of limit) just like many scandanavian countries have. Giving a $500 fine on someone on a 25k salary is FAR worse than the same fine on a multi millionaire. How on earth with a couple of hundred dollars deter a multi millionaire from not speeding or whatever again? it wont.

similarly, fining some almost bankrupt club 2 million dollars is completely different from fining a club with mega-rich backers.

Irvine from the Sharks reported on the news this morning that (I) they have a spare resource property worth at least $9 milion (I haven't the full details) and (ii) the fine from the NRL will not deter their progress into future years at all.

They'll need every penny. There are already 2 players suing the club. I think that figure will increase substantially once the ASADA findings are known because there will be a few careers ruined I think. Their only avenue is to sue their employer for neglecting their duty of care.

The NRL findings yesterday just laid the base. Even the Players Association have pointed the finger.

Players keep saying that they always put their trust in the medical people and don't ask many questions. ASADA put the onus on the player but the club must be held responsible for this type of behaviour in their workplace.

I think the Sharks are in for a very hard time. Their own internal report proved that. How the new board must be feeling now.

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[system]

I think people are forgetting the most damning point. The Cronulla Sharks REFUSE to specify what drugs were in fact injected into players.
This in itself is nothing short of despicable, deceitful, dangerous and completely irresponsible. They completely abused the safety of the players.
I certainly wouldn't allow my son to play under such a shambolic club!

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[diedpretty]

NRL cannot decide the severity of fines/suspension on how rich or poor the club is. In fact the reason the club allowed/encouraged the doping to take place was to win more games, obtain bigger following and more sponsorship thereby making the club much richer. So if

Exactly Newtown. pHyR3 just doesn't seem to get it. **Their financial circumstances can have no bearing on the punishments at all.**
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Irvine from the Sharks reported on the news this morning that (I) they have a spare resource property worth at least $9 milion (I haven't the full details) and (ii) the fine from the NRL will not deter their progress into future years at all.
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I think the NRL punishment is the least of their worries. From all reports if ASADA suspend players for up to 2 years they will more than likely sue cronulla for compensation. I think they may need more than the sale of a $9mil property to save them.

 

[LaT]

I think people are forgetting the most damning point. The Cronulla Sharks REFUSE to specify what drugs were in fact injected into players.
This in itself is nothing short of despicable, deceitful, dangerous and completely irresponsible. They completely abused the safety of the players.
I certainly wouldn't allow my son to play under such a shambolic club!

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The Sharks own Kavanagh Report specifies CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 and Irvine has directs quotes from his time as chairman admitting they were administered.

While they might be now taking the legally safe option and keeping shut, the admission and evidence is there. Rest assured, they are rooted.

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

Without going through all the previous posts what I have gleaned from the past few days that the head coach was complicit in having players injected with dodgy supplements in order to gain a unfair advantage.
The systematic abuse of 'illegal' performance enhancing drugs should IMO see the Sharks removed from the NRL as were the Rabbitohs were in 1999 for not meeting the set criteria, so where's this level playing field then.
Can you name any pre Super League aligned clubs who have gone outside of the set rules for a unfair advantage?, since 1998 all the cheats have been pro Super Greed, it's a win at costs scenario, bugger the honest ones!.

 

[sheer64]

- Exposed players to possible breaches of the NRL Anti-Doping Rules
Have they proved the substances injected were illegal and illegal at the time of injection?

 

[happy_tiger]

- Exposed players to possible breaches of the NRL Anti-Doping Rules
Have they proved the substances injected were illegal and illegal at the time of injection?

You'd have to assume by the reactions of all involved that it was illegal and they probably knew it was illegal

 

[LaT]

- Exposed players to possible breaches of the NRL Anti-Doping Rules
Have they proved the substances injected were illegal and illegal at the time of injection?

Yes, the substances in question CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 were most definitely illegal in 2011\. ASADA have confirmed it.

 

[Knuckles]

I remember a few years ago a bloke under the name of Ned Kelly used to come on the forum telling us all for ages that we should sign Shane Flanagan as our coach. Well Ned … Thank God Humpty didn't take your advice.

 

[Abraham]

The current penalties as imposed by the NRL will not impact on the shark's long term future.

A $600,000.00 fine is nothing when you consider the developers have offered to advance them $10m, and the sale of apartments at their Woolooware development is due to commence in a couple of months time.

I think a lot of people are underestimating their financial position, which is stronger than many think.

According to Damien Irvine the real problem could be if players, both past and present, decide to commence legal action against the club. That is their main concern, and not the short term fine or the loss of their coach for a single season.

 

[alex]

Tuesday was such a glorious day in Australian sport. The Aussies regained the Ashes, and the Sharks got what they deserved!

Surely there's got to be some players implicated?

 

[Abraham]

Surely there's got to be some players implicated?

You would think so.

Is anybody else wondering why Manly, who had Dank working for them over such a long period of time, has not come under such scrutiny?

Is it a matter of the investigators going after a weak target like the Sharks, instead of high flyers such as Manly who seem to have 'support in the right places'?

Seems like Manly have flown under the radar and avoided what could have been some disastrous consequences.