Sheens

[BAGNF05]

Day 3, still trying to figure out Pascoe’s graphs. Has been briefed on hat sales.

 

[tony soprano]

@twentyforty i reckon Sheens once he can dig his claws in so to speak some major changes will be made we’ve already got 2 new assistant coaches so hopefully there’s more soon

Hartigan gone a good start

 

[tony soprano]

It's been known the club wasn't well run financially while he was there so interesting to see how he goes with some money behind him.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

This Madge Sheens set up is ridiculous and you can see exactly what will happen:

We’re winning - Sheens has turned the team around

We’re losing - Madge has to go. Terrible coach

There are no winners in this

Imagine being upset at a future where our team has turned around. There would be multiple winners in that scenario:

1. Sheens
2. US, THE FANS

Well , he’s the head of football . Do you want him to magically turn also ran footy players into the Raiders of the 90s in half an off season ? .
What’s as predictable is that after 7 games, and we are 1 and 6 , there will be calls to axe sheens . Which really when you do the maths is like 5 months in the job .

I’m not pro or anti anyone , except bandwagon jumping and scapegoating. If Madge doesn’t at least break even next year , he’s gone .
And I don’t think he would be able to honestly be too upset about it . Really his whole job comes down to whether he has a higher than 50% win share .

I don’t care if we win 40% of games if the team is giving a whole hearted effort week to week. That’s step 1 for Sheenius and co. Now bring on a few decent signings.

Well your in the minority bro. I tend to agree with you , but the pitchforks are out and they’re about to storm the castle .

 

[twentyforty]

@twentyforty i reckon Sheens once he can dig his claws in so to speak some major changes will be made we’ve already got 2 new assistant coaches so hopefully there’s more soon

@Glenji95 this could go either way, but I’m thinking the odds are in our favour. Mr Sheens can do the cutting while Maguire can add the polish to this side.
Jokes aside, they will make a great team imo, because they are so different in their approach.

 

[Glenji95]

@twentyforty i think its a good thing having both Sheens and Maguire working together I reckon it’ll pay off in a couple of years don’t expect miracles for next year but if it does happen next year I’ll be happy

 

[happy_tiger]

This Madge Sheens set up is ridiculous and you can see exactly what will happen:

We’re winning - Sheens has turned the team around

We’re losing - Madge has to go. Terrible coach

There are no winners in this

Imagine being upset at a future where our team has turned around. There would be multiple winners in that scenario:

1. Sheens
2. US, THE FANS

Well , he’s the head of football . Do you want him to magically turn also ran footy players into the Raiders of the 90s in half an off season ? .
What’s as predictable is that after 7 games, and we are 1 and 6 , there will be calls to axe sheens . Which really when you do the maths is like 5 months in the job .

I’m not pro or anti anyone , except bandwagon jumping and scapegoating. If Madge doesn’t at least break even next year , he’s gone .
And I don’t think he would be able to honestly be too upset about it . Really his whole job comes down to whether he has a higher than 50% win share .

I love the backing of Sheens ....but Don Furner and Wayne Bennett handed Sheens a champion side remember

He did amazingly well with that side and attracted some great Kiwi talent in Wiki ,Ponga and Lomax ......but the club was doing very well before he showed up ......

 

[Deleted member 3518]

This Madge Sheens set up is ridiculous and you can see exactly what will happen:

We’re winning - Sheens has turned the team around

We’re losing - Madge has to go. Terrible coach

There are no winners in this

Imagine being upset at a future where our team has turned around. There would be multiple winners in that scenario:

1. Sheens
2. US, THE FANS

Well , he’s the head of football . Do you want him to magically turn also ran footy players into the Raiders of the 90s in half an off season ? .
What’s as predictable is that after 7 games, and we are 1 and 6 , there will be calls to axe sheens . Which really when you do the maths is like 5 months in the job .

I’m not pro or anti anyone , except bandwagon jumping and scapegoating. If Madge doesn’t at least break even next year , he’s gone .
And I don’t think he would be able to honestly be too upset about it . Really his whole job comes down to whether he has a higher than 50% win share .

I love the backing of Sheens ....but Don Furner and Wayne Bennett handed Sheens a champion side remember

He did amazingly well with that side and attracted some great Kiwi talent in Wiki ,Ponga and Lomax ......but the club was doing very well before he showed up ......

Yea totally . It was very similar of an approach to now where they’ve based thier strategy on Englishmen . They focused on Queenslanders in the 80s , recruited the nucleus of the team , and built around them with kiwis and local / country talent .

They players were there , but the strategies and game plans were all him . But you’re right c, it’s all for nought if the players can’t execute .

 

[happy_tiger]

This Madge Sheens set up is ridiculous and you can see exactly what will happen:

We’re winning - Sheens has turned the team around

We’re losing - Madge has to go. Terrible coach

There are no winners in this

Imagine being upset at a future where our team has turned around. There would be multiple winners in that scenario:

1. Sheens
2. US, THE FANS

Well , he’s the head of football . Do you want him to magically turn also ran footy players into the Raiders of the 90s in half an off season ? .
What’s as predictable is that after 7 games, and we are 1 and 6 , there will be calls to axe sheens . Which really when you do the maths is like 5 months in the job .

I’m not pro or anti anyone , except bandwagon jumping and scapegoating. If Madge doesn’t at least break even next year , he’s gone .
And I don’t think he would be able to honestly be too upset about it . Really his whole job comes down to whether he has a higher than 50% win share .

I love the backing of Sheens ....but Don Furner and Wayne Bennett handed Sheens a champion side remember

He did amazingly well with that side and attracted some great Kiwi talent in Wiki ,Ponga and Lomax ......but the club was doing very well before he showed up ......

Yea totally . It was very similar of an approach to now where they’ve based thier strategy on Englishmen . They focused on Queenslanders in the 80s , recruited the nucleus of the team , and built around them with kiwis and local / country talent .

They players were there , but the strategies and game plans were all him . But you’re right c, it’s all for nought if the players can’t execute .

And they found a handy feeder school with Erindale College as well ....

 

[Telltails]

There is plenty of room for growth with a lot of our players. It is up to them to either individually put in, or settle for general consensus.

 

[BAGNF05]

There is plenty of room for growth with a lot of our players. It is up to them to either individually put in, or settle for general consensus.

I don’t expect any of our young potential guys to rise to elite players unless we give them some proper role models in the playing group. You don’t fluke this stuff and footy is a team sport requiring those around you to make you better. Stefano has the world at his feet, imagine how quickly he gets there in a better system than WT.

 

[The_Patriot]

There is plenty of room for growth with a lot of our players. It is up to them to either individually put in, or settle for general consensus.

Thats the key to next year's performance.

We have enough talent to at least be very competitive. It's up to the players to buy in.

Last year only a couple did.

 

[TigerSJ]

There is plenty of room for growth with a lot of our players. It is up to them to either individually put in, or settle for general consensus.

Thats the key to next year's performance.

We have enough talent to at least be very competitive. It's up to the players to buy in.

Last year only a couple did.

100% agree with you guys here. If each individual is prepared to work hard at whatever it takes to train and play at their best each and every week then we have enough football talent in our squad to win more than half our games. This means every player putting in for each other and playing as a team. Attitude and desire is such a huge part of winning and our guys need to want it a whole lot more than they showed last season.

 

[tony soprano]

There is plenty of room for growth with a lot of our players. It is up to them to either individually put in, or settle for general consensus.

Thats the key to next year's performance.

We have enough talent to at least be very competitive. It's up to the players to buy in.

Last year only a couple did.

100% agree with you guys here. If each individual is prepared to work hard at whatever it takes to train and play at their best each and every week then we have enough football talent in our squad to win more than half our games. This means every player putting in for each other and playing as a team. Attitude and desire is such a huge part of winning and our guys need to want it a whole lot more than they showed last season.

They weren't enjoying their footy last year could tell on the field. Hopefully they change that and play some footy

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Want to read about Timmy's recent efforts in ESL before his resurrection as guru and messiah at WT?

Hull Kingston Rovers
In September 2016 it was announced that he would join Hull Kingston Rovers for season 2017 and beyond. In Sheens first year at the club, he coached the Hull Kingston Rovers in their promotion back to Super League campaign of 2017. After 2 years at Hull KR, Sheens was sacked due to poor league position, form and loss of 'the dressing room' (implying player support) on 5 June 2019.

Widnes Vikings
On 13 Oct 2020 it was announced that Sheens had resigned as club head coach due to a falling out with management over staffing.


I'm brimful of confidence. NOT!!!

But he’s the greatest football brain in the world and everyone wants to play for him

 

[hank37w]

Ye of little faith.

 

[happy_tiger]

Ye of little faith.

He isn't hopeless until sacked twice .....Benji gets 3 goes ......Tooserville ......NSW ......

 

[tony soprano]

Want to read about Timmy's recent efforts in ESL before his resurrection as guru and messiah at WT?

Hull Kingston Rovers
In September 2016 it was announced that he would join Hull Kingston Rovers for season 2017 and beyond. In Sheens first year at the club, he coached the Hull Kingston Rovers in their promotion back to Super League campaign of 2017. After 2 years at Hull KR, Sheens was sacked due to poor league position, form and loss of 'the dressing room' (implying player support) on 5 June 2019.

Widnes Vikings
On 13 Oct 2020 it was announced that Sheens had resigned as club head coach due to a falling out with management over staffing.


I'm brimful of confidence. NOT!!!

It's a freakin' gravy train, for Timmy and McDonnell and Marshall, instigated, aided and abbetted by Chairman Mouth, the hapless Pascoe and a clueless Board.

Aren't they basically bankrupt, will be interesting to see how seems does with some funding resources around him

 

[Guest]

Want to read about Timmy's recent efforts in ESL before his resurrection as guru and messiah at WT?

Hull Kingston Rovers
In September 2016 it was announced that he would join Hull Kingston Rovers for season 2017 and beyond. In Sheens first year at the club, he coached the Hull Kingston Rovers in their promotion back to Super League campaign of 2017. After 2 years at Hull KR, Sheens was sacked due to poor league position, form and loss of 'the dressing room' (implying player support) on 5 June 2019.

Widnes Vikings
On 13 Oct 2020 it was announced that Sheens had resigned as club head coach due to a falling out with management over staffing.


I'm brimful of confidence. NOT!!!

It's a freakin' gravy train, for Timmy and McDonnell and Marshall, instigated, aided and abbetted by Chairman Mouth, the hapless Pascoe and a clueless Board.

Well of course it sounds bad when you put it like that :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: