Shining some new light

[VanillaThunder]

Can't understand us looking at Idris and Pauli but getting rid of Funaki and Akauola? They'd cost us a lot more and while Idris has the potential to be a world beater, they all have similar issues.

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It is always interesting with these kind of players. They can be game-breakers, but maybe that is only 1 in 10 games, which probably doesn't justify the cost.

Idris and Tony Williams are the template for super inconsistent playing, followed closely by Dave Taylor. They've all played reps and I wouldn't want to oppose them on the wrong day.

Do you not ever carry these players a la Melbourne Storm, or do you take one or two and hope the rest of the team takes up the inevitable slack?

I'd say Idris and Taylor's paths around the NRL would suggest that you just can't do it nowadays. That being said, if Idris is happy to play centre I'd definitely take him.
Don't see the value in Pauli though. He has potential, but so do Sita and Funaki. I'd rather keep the players already in our system if we're going to swap hard running, poor tackling back rowers.

Maybe it's a shake up by JT? We've had our boys club issues before, maybe he wants to change the perception that we rely on juniors and have our blokes looking over their shoulders around the NRL, not just at training.

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[boonboon]

Lets compare those players

Jamal Idris - 24, 131 NRL games and 41 tries, 195cm and 120kg has also represented NSW and Australia, NRL debut at 18, This year before injury he had played 6 games for 4 tries with 3 linebreaks and a try assist and 25 tackle breaks. 87% tackle efficiency a career high. Last year he played 22 games and made an average of 114 meters per game

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Sitaleki Akoula - 23 only 1 yr younger then idris, has played 11 NRL games (1 try) for a team that could hardly win a game, 190 cm and 100kg, including spending most of 2015 on the bench of NSW cup for an ave NSW cup team behind a very average NRL team, 10 tackle breaks and 3 LB, average a solid 104 meters last yr but an effective tackle % of only 75% (worse then Luke Brooks) and made more then 1 error a game.

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Pauli Pauli - 20 yrs of age , 193 cm and 120 kg, 24 FG games and 3 tries, 4 try assits, 5 line breaks, 4 LB assists, 39 tackle breaks, 17 offloads, 89% effective tackle %

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Salesi Funaki -Also 20- Never played NRL, solid player in NSW cup , 182 cm and 103kg

ANyone who thinks signing Idris and Pauli Pauli isn't a massive improvement on the other 2 if kidding themselves - The 2 tigers players of similar ages aren't even in the same stadium let alone better options

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

gee if this is true it at least gives us some hope, would like us to be looking at 2 second rowers not one. can we confirm., any of this, would make all feel so much better. also good news we can maybe get rid of JT after round 13 next year.

Yes, let's do that. Even though we are undefeated after 13 rounds. Good one.

Col, can I get some of whatever you're on ? It must be good.

 

[ryanda01]

gee if this is true it at least gives us some hope, would like us to be looking at 2 second rowers not one. can we confirm., any of this, would make all feel so much better. also good news we can maybe get rid of JT after round 13 next year.

Yes, let's do that. Even though we are undefeated after 13 rounds. Good one.

Col, can I get some of whatever you're on ? It must be good.

God I hope Col meant 'Even if' instead of 'Even though' - otherwise I'll have what he's having!

 

[jirskyr]

Lets compare those players

Jamal Idris - 24, 131 NRL games and 41 tries, 195cm and 120kg has also represented NSW and Australia, NRL debut at 18, This year before injury he had played 6 games for 4 tries with 3 linebreaks and a try assist and 25 tackle breaks. 87% tackle efficiency a career high. Last year he played 22 games and made an average of 114 meters per game

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Sitaleki Akoula - 23 only 1 yr younger then idris, has played 11 NRL games (1 try) for a team that could hardly win a game, 190 cm and 100kg, including spending most of 2015 on the bench of NSW cup for an ave NSW cup team behind a very average NRL team, 10 tackle breaks and 3 LB, average a solid 104 meters last yr but an effective tackle % of only 75% (worse then Luke Brooks) and made more then 1 error a game.

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Pauli Pauli - 20 yrs of age , 193 cm and 120 kg, 24 FG games and 3 tries, 4 try assits, 5 line breaks, 4 LB assists, 39 tackle breaks, 17 offloads, 89% effective tackle %

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Salesi Funaki -Also 20- Never played NRL, solid player in NSW cup , 182 cm and 103kg

ANyone who thinks signing Idris and Pauli Pauli isn't a massive improvement on the other 2 if kidding themselves - The 2 tigers players of similar ages aren't even in the same stadium let alone better options

Ah Boon, not that I disagree, but there are two sides to the argument.

One is that Idris has a great record and achieve that greatness again. The counter-argument is that his best form his behind him and he has a recent record of rapidly declining peformances.

Hard to have much of a track record of anything if you've only played 11 NRL games and half of those were absurdly on the wing. Maybe Sita's best days are ahead of him, or maybe he will never be good enough.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Do we know if this bloke is actually in place to know such things, or is this Balmain Bug pulling your chains?

 

[VanillaThunder]

Lets compare those players

Jamal Idris - 24, 131 NRL games and 41 tries, 195cm and 120kg has also represented NSW and Australia, NRL debut at 18, This year before injury he had played 6 games for 4 tries with 3 linebreaks and a try assist and 25 tackle breaks. 87% tackle efficiency a career high. Last year he played 22 games and made an average of 114 meters per game

v

Sitaleki Akoula - 23 only 1 yr younger then idris, has played 11 NRL games (1 try) for a team that could hardly win a game, 190 cm and 100kg, including spending most of 2015 on the bench of NSW cup for an ave NSW cup team behind a very average NRL team, 10 tackle breaks and 3 LB, average a solid 104 meters last yr but an effective tackle % of only 75% (worse then Luke Brooks) and made more then 1 error a game.

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Pauli Pauli - 20 yrs of age , 193 cm and 120 kg, 24 FG games and 3 tries, 4 try assits, 5 line breaks, 4 LB assists, 39 tackle breaks, 17 offloads, 89% effective tackle %

v

Salesi Funaki -Also 20- Never played NRL, solid player in NSW cup , 182 cm and 103kg

ANyone who thinks signing Idris and Pauli Pauli isn't a massive improvement on the other 2 if kidding themselves - The 2 tigers players of similar ages aren't even in the same stadium let alone better options

Ah Boon, not that I disagree, but there are two sides to the argument.

One is that Idris has a great record and achieve that greatness again. The counter-argument is that his best form his behind him and he has a recent record of rapidly declining peformances.

Hard to have much of a track record of anything if you've only played 11 NRL games and half of those were absurdly on the wing. Maybe Sita's best days are ahead of him, or maybe he will never be good enough.

No one would argue that at present Idris isn't the best option, but he has constant injury and motivation problems, and that's without even mentioning his salary. He's been to three clubs in six years, something would have to be amiss for a player of his talent to be bounced around like that.
Sita was absolutely dominating NSW Cup early in the year playing out of position every week, but for one reason or another has fallen out of favour and can't get a gig, as with Funaki. We just don't have the sample size to make any real, meaningful comparisons.
I've said before that I'd still take Idris if he's willing to buy in and play centre, but it should not cost us two (currently) reserve grade forwards.

 

[iofthetigers]

The guy I would be after is mahe fonua from the storm

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heard that he is in discussions & has met with the Tigers . Apparently he is Victorian & the Rebels are very keen on him.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

 

[Geo]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

 

[happy_tiger]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

If it means waiting , we wait

No more fringe first graders who aren't better than we already have

 

[foreveratiger]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

If it means waiting , we wait

No more fringe first graders who aren't better than we already have

Has FC Lusitanos of Andorra got any League players happy? :laughing:

 

[littletiger]

Well we need a replacement for Richards. So who do you suggest. I like all three. But coaches will have to work hard for them to fire that's for sure.

 

[happy_tiger]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

If it means waiting , we wait

No more fringe first graders who aren't better than we already have

Has FC Lusitanos of Andorra got any League players happy? :laughing:

I'm sure they have some players that could help Leeds in Skybet League 2 FT in 2016-2017

Does that help ??

 

[foreveratiger]

Not a chance happy we are going up.

Back on topic :mrgreen:

 

[greatodensraven]

Well we need a replacement for Richards. So who do you suggest. I like all three. But coaches will have to work hard for them to fire that's for sure.

I think Nofo & Simona should be our wingers with Seve at left centre. Give Kev a crack at right centre now & see how he goes.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

Ill offer up a different approach, most important strategy would be to forget who is or who isnt off contract. You need to be speaking to other clubs about players they may consider releasing and get in before other clubs get a sniff.

Firstly id look at clubs that are facing a salary cap squeeze and see who they may be willing to offload. Manly for example may be willing to free up some space for an aging Matai. He may be useful creating the type of culture we want going forward.

Then id be looking at the strong consistent types stuck in State Cup behind quality players. Guys who might suit our structures and have shown something to say they can go to the next level.

From the NSW State Cup these 3 would be a much better option than Idris, Tupou and Pauli.

MITCH BARNETT - Exciting second row prospect and offers more consistency, aggression and will to win than Pauli

BURETA FARAIMO - This guy is raw but he is Tuiaki kind of raw, would be a better speculative buy than the hot and cold and ridiculously expensive Tupou.

JAKE MAMO - I think between Nofoaluma, Simona and Seve we have a decent centre pairing. Mamo instead of Bob Marley brain Idris as a utility outside back covering Wing, centre and fullback is money better spent

From QLD Cup

DALE COPLEY - On half the money as Idris would be a good centre to have at the club. He isnt Jack Reed tough and professional but he most definitely is tough and professional.

Kyle Feldt - Purely as a depth signing would be better than most of our State Cup outside backs.

These are the kind of decisions i wish we were making but like most things ive lost faith in this clubs ability to make good decisions.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUaBqoRU7p4

This is Bird, this is Gallen, this is Klemmer. just needs maturity and the right coach.

But nah we go for bench players like Pauli Pauli lol.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Pauli Pauli had a very good game last week according to a couple of supporters who do not support the Eels. Apparently he made 37 tackles and played in the middle and also switched wide.

 

[Russell]

Idris, Pauli and Topou are not the types of players we need.

They are all inconsistent, mentally weak and offer absolutely no improvement to our club culture..

They are Wayne Pearce types of signings and if true the sooner the board wake up to this rubbish the better.

I agree with this 100%,,,

Out of curiosity who should we be signing that is available…?

Ill offer up a different approach, most important strategy would be to forget who is or who isnt off contract. You need to be speaking to other clubs about players they may consider releasing and get in before other clubs get a sniff.

Firstly id look at clubs that are facing a salary cap squeeze and see who they may be willing to offload. Manly for example may be willing to free up some space for an aging Matai. He may be useful creating the type of culture we want going forward.

Then id be looking at the strong consistent types stuck in State Cup behind quality players. Guys who might suit our structures and have shown something to say they can go to the next level.

From the NSW State Cup these 3 would be a much better option than Idris, Tupou and Pauli.

MITCH BARNETT - Exciting second row prospect and offers more consistency, aggression and will to win than Pauli

BURETA FARAIMO - This guy is raw but he Tuiaki kind of raw, would be a better speculative buy than the hot and cold and ridiculously expensive Tupou.

JAKE MAMO - I think between Nofoaluma, Simona and Seve we have a decent centre pairing. Mamo instead of Bob Marley brain Idris as a utility outside back covering Wing, centre and fullback is money better spent

From QLD Cup

DALE COPLEY - On half the money as Idris would be a good centre to have at the club. He isnt Jack Reed tough and professional but he most definitely is tough and professional.

Kyle Feldt - Purely as a depth signing would be better than most of our State Cup outside backs.

These are the kind of decisions i wish we were making but like most things ive lost faith in this clubs ability to make good decisions.

Thanks for the alternative train of thought TITG - worth consideration.

Don't agree if they are shopping Keiffy and Rowdy though. I think we need 2 centres and no more back rowers unless we are losing someone.

All depends on when we can spend money though - doesn't it?

And none of us knows when.