Should/Will RF get his Leichhardt farewell given we are out of contention?

@Byron Bay Fan said:
@NT Tiger said:
@hammertime said:
I love your analogy but RF was only protecting himself from BS about of cohesion in attack and presumably he was asked. Whereas Jason did not have to make the statement as to why RF was dropped from FG. If he could shut up famously at last week's presser he could have done the same as to why RF was not playing FG. That presser was a famous gig as well only at the wrong end of the scale. Should be saved for prosperity that one.

If JT didn't say something, the media circus would have continued.

Honestly, I think JT is doing a lot of covering for Farah by trying to mask real reasons. JT really didn't say anything negative about Robbie, just basically a too many cooks analogy.

it would not be wise for JT to come out and destroy Robbie by telling the media robbies real deficiencies. Benji did so on nrl360 so we know he has attitude issues. At least he made up a credible arguement that suggested he was actually a good player. Robbie just really should have kept his mouth closed - he really isn't as smart as he thinks he is.

Well said. I have been thinking much the same. Unfortunately other clubs will have had a good look at the circus he creates. I think it will be a hard sell to get rid of him.

Well Benji, on his own admission, stated that he did not put 100% effort in the last few years at WT - well whom was captain at that time and who is famous for making them walk on egg shells if they do not put in 100% effort? MR 100% EFFORT HIMSELF - CAPT R P FARAH. He was just being a good capt responsible to the club, the roster and the fans. As our previous coaches have not worked miracles since departing maybe Robbie gave them a nudge as well when at WT. RF's only serious mistake was telling JT that he would never have to make the decision as to whether the country or not - the truth can hurt.

Who gets the point across. Whom sounds stupid. You always write it….. I mean really, we're just footy fans.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@tigers2005 said:
Lets not forget this whole thing started with the club trying to force farahs hand by dropping him so they could retain ET. So while Farah has been no saint in this debacle, the club hasnt been that far behind.

No, it started halfway through last season when Farah was told he was free to negotiate with other clubs.

Do you mean when he was threatened with reserve grade?

I assume it was the same conversation. Probably went like this:

"Robbie, you are free to negotiate with other clubs for the final two years of your contract here at Wests. You can stay at Wests, however it is possible you could be playing State Cup because we don't think you are up to playing first grade with this team."
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@tigers2005 said:
Lets not forget this whole thing started with the club trying to force farahs hand by dropping him so they could retain ET. So while Farah has been no saint in this debacle, the club hasnt been that far behind.

No, it started halfway through last season when Farah was told he was free to negotiate with other clubs.

Do you mean when he was threatened with reserve grade?

I assume it was the same conversation. Probably went like this:

"Robbie, you are free to negotiate with other clubs for the final two years of your contract here at Wests. You can stay at Wests, however it is possible you could be playing State Cup because we don't think you are up to playing first grade with this team."

Is that what you heard when you were there with them?
 
Any one still defending Robbie at this stage please go watch the video on his twitter page

https://twitter.com/robbiefarah

The video about Taylor driving a poor player to contemplate suicide.

The video perhaps orchestrated by his manager, Weidler and promoted by Robbie Farah.

We owe RF his money and nothing more due to years of self inflicted drama.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
No, it started halfway through last season when Farah was told he was free to negotiate with other clubs.

Do you mean when he was threatened with reserve grade?

I **assume** it was the same conversation. **Probably** went like this:

"Robbie, you are free to negotiate with other clubs for the final two years of your contract here at Wests. You can stay at Wests, however it is possible you could be playing State Cup because we don't think you are up to playing first grade with this team."

Is that what you heard when you were there with them?

No - try **reading**.
 
No he should not get a farewell. The fact he keeps skipping reserve grade games would mean match fitness is a major concern.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Do you mean when he was threatened with reserve grade?

I **assume** it was the same conversation. **Probably** went like this:

"Robbie, you are free to negotiate with other clubs for the final two years of your contract here at Wests. You can stay at Wests, however it is possible you could be playing State Cup because we don't think you are up to playing first grade with this team."

Is that what you heard when you were there with them?

No - try **reading**.

So what you have written is bullshit.
 
@Defiant said:
Any one still defending Robbie at this stage please go watch the video on his twitter page

https://twitter.com/robbiefarah

The video about Taylor driving a poor player to contemplate suicide.

The video perhaps orchestrated by his manager, Weidler and promoted by Robbie Farah.

We owe RF his money and nothing more due to years of self inflicted drama.

Im not very up with twitter, am I right in saying only one person - archie thompson - replied to that re-tweet.?
A story about sitas thoughts of suicide yet in somehow turns into a story & support for Robbie?
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
I **assume** it was the same conversation. **Probably** went like this:

"Robbie, you are free to negotiate with other clubs for the final two years of your contract here at Wests. You can stay at Wests, however it is possible you could be playing State Cup because we don't think you are up to playing first grade with this team."

Is that what you heard when you were there with them?

No - try **reading**.

So what you have written is s***.

Actually, no it isn't a s*** assumption. You know why? Because that is the status quo - that type of conversation happens at every club with a player every year. It really isn't a big deal, most players in that situation just get on with it and move along. In fact Farah is the first player I am aware of that has refused (or can't) leave.

In saying that, maybe this might convince you on the actual conversation. Straight from the horse's mouth:

https://youtu.be/-2txqtU3orQ
 
@innsaneink said:
@Defiant said:
Any one still defending Robbie at this stage please go watch the video on his twitter page

https://twitter.com/robbiefarah

The video about Taylor driving a poor player to contemplate suicide.

The video perhaps orchestrated by his manager, Weidler and promoted by Robbie Farah.

We owe RF his money and nothing more due to years of self inflicted drama.

Im not very up with twitter, am I right in saying only one person - archie thompson - replied to that re-tweet.?
A story about sitas thoughts of suicide yet in somehow turns into a story & support for Robbie?

Seems Josh Mansour brushed him and isn't answering his calls. Lol. I don't know Twitter either.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Is that what you heard when you were there with them?

No - try **reading**.

So what you have written is s***.

Actually, no it isn't a s*** assumption. You know why? Because that is the status quo - that type of conversation happens at every club with a player every year. It really isn't a big deal, most players in that situation just get on with it and move along. In fact Farah is the first player I am aware of that has refused (or can't) leave.

So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
No - try **reading**.

So what you have written is s***.

Actually, no it isn't a s*** assumption. You know why? Because that is the status quo - that type of conversation happens at every club with a player every year. It really isn't a big deal, most players in that situation just get on with it and move along. In fact Farah is the first player I am aware of that has refused (or can't) leave.

So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?

No, but I am able to draw my own conclusions from official press statements and draw on examples of players at other clubs that have been given permission to negotiate elsewhere.

Now - if you think something other than the above transpired in the conversation, then feel free to post and have it critiqued by others. Otherwise, accept what generally occurs in these types of player-coach-manager conversations as well as the official press release at the time, including the press conference with Farah, and stop going around in nonsensical circles questioning others as to whether they were in the meeting or not. Of course no one else was in the meeting.
 
It's just a shame, that this situation has spiralled out of control.

I can only suspect, that it would be hard for an elite sportsperson, to realise / accept they are coming to the end of the career on the field.
**Personally I have never experienced any of this, because I'm just an average bloke, with average skills.** :laughing: :wink:
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
So what you have written is s***.

Actually, no it isn't a s*** assumption. You know why? Because that is the status quo - that type of conversation happens at every club with a player every year. It really isn't a big deal, most players in that situation just get on with it and move along. In fact Farah is the first player I am aware of that has refused (or can't) leave.

So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?

No, but I am able to draw my own conclusions from official press statements and draw on examples of players at other clubs that have been given permission to negotiate elsewhere.

Now - if you think something other than the above transpired in the conversation, then feel free to post and have it critiqued by others. Otherwise, accept what generally occurs in these types of player-coach-manager conversations as well as the official press release at the time, including the press conference with Farah, and stop going around in nonsensical circles questioning others as to whether they were in the meeting or not. Of course no one else was in the meeting.

There's been a lot of current players been dropped to reserve grade just after Origin then has there?
Sorry I can't post what was said in any of the meetings that have gone on.
Only because I , like you , know jack ….about what was said. Only difference is I'm not trying to sound like I do.
 
@westTAHger said:
It's just a shame, that this situation has spiralled out of control.

I can only suspect, that it would be hard for an elite sportsperson, to realise / accept they are coming to the end of the career on the field.
**Personally I have never experienced any of this, because I'm just an average bloke, with average skills.** :laughing: :wink:

they're elite sports stars because of you though. the clubs and the players forget just how important fans are.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
Actually, no it isn't a s*** assumption. You know why? Because that is the status quo - that type of conversation happens at every club with a player every year. It really isn't a big deal, most players in that situation just get on with it and move along. In fact Farah is the first player I am aware of that has refused (or can't) leave.

So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?

No, but I am able to draw my own conclusions from official press statements and draw on examples of players at other clubs that have been given permission to negotiate elsewhere.

Now - if you think something other than the above transpired in the conversation, then feel free to post and have it critiqued by others. Otherwise, accept what generally occurs in these types of player-coach-manager conversations as well as the official press release at the time, including the press conference with Farah, and stop going around in nonsensical circles questioning others as to whether they were in the meeting or not. Of course no one else was in the meeting.

There's been a lot of current players been dropped to reserve grade just after Origin then has there?
Sorry I can't post what was said in any of the meetings that have gone on.
Only because I , like you , know jack ….about what was said. Only difference is I'm not trying to sound like I do.

Actually, Gary isnt trying to pretend he knows what was said, he did say "he assumed" and also "probably"…yet you and paws continue to ignore that, to carry on like juveniles
Grow up
 
@innsaneink said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?

No, but I am able to draw my own conclusions from official press statements and draw on examples of players at other clubs that have been given permission to negotiate elsewhere.

Now - if you think something other than the above transpired in the conversation, then feel free to post and have it critiqued by others. Otherwise, accept what generally occurs in these types of player-coach-manager conversations as well as the official press release at the time, including the press conference with Farah, and stop going around in nonsensical circles questioning others as to whether they were in the meeting or not. Of course no one else was in the meeting.

There's been a lot of current players been dropped to reserve grade just after Origin then has there?
Sorry I can't post what was said in any of the meetings that have gone on.
Only because I , like you , know jack ….about what was said. Only difference is I'm not trying to sound like I do.

Actually, Gary isnt trying to pretend he knows what was said, he did say "he assumed" and also "probably"…yet you and paws continue to ignore that, to carry on like juveniles
Grow up

That's the problem here though , very little of what's said is very accurate, but ends up becoming folklore. Which no one corrects down the track
sorry to upset your day, you sound a bit ruffled
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
That's the problem here though , very little of what's said is very accurate, but ends up becoming folklore. Which no one corrects down the track
sorry to upset your day, you sound a bit ruffled

Well then, I suggest you note that on every post you feel is not accurate so we don't have this problem going forward. That should keep you busy.
 
@innsaneink said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
So you have no idea what actually transpired at that meeting?

No, but I am able to draw my own conclusions from official press statements and draw on examples of players at other clubs that have been given permission to negotiate elsewhere.

Now - if you think something other than the above transpired in the conversation, then feel free to post and have it critiqued by others. Otherwise, accept what generally occurs in these types of player-coach-manager conversations as well as the official press release at the time, including the press conference with Farah, and stop going around in nonsensical circles questioning others as to whether they were in the meeting or not. Of course no one else was in the meeting.

There's been a lot of current players been dropped to reserve grade just after Origin then has there?
Sorry I can't post what was said in any of the meetings that have gone on.
Only because I , like you , know jack ….about what was said. Only difference is I'm not trying to sound like I do.

Actually, Gary isnt trying to pretend he knows what was said, he did say "he assumed" and also "probably"…yet you and paws continue to ignore that, to carry on like juveniles
Grow up

Ink, if you have something constructive to add, then please post. Gary just admitted he wasn't there and has no idea about what transpired at the meeting. Were you at the meeting?
 
@hammertime said:
I love your analogy but RF was only protecting himself from BS about of cohesion in attack and presumably he was asked. Whereas Jason did not have to make the statement as to why RF was dropped from FG. If he could shut up famously at last week's presser he could have done the same as to why RF was not playing FG. That presser was a famous gig as well only at the wrong end of the scale. Should be saved for prosperity that one.

If JT didn't say something, the media circus would have continued.

Honestly, I think JT is doing a lot of covering for Farah by trying to mask real reasons. JT really didn't say anything negative about Robbie, just basically a too many cooks analogy.

it would not be wise for JT to come out and destroy Robbie by telling the media robbies real deficiencies. Benji did so on nrl360 so we know he has attitude issues. At least he made up a credible arguement that suggested he was actually a good player. Robbie just really should have kept his mouth closed - he really isn't as smart as he thinks he is.

What reasons are there that we can't see ? Seriously I want to know this. It gets alluded too but there are no facts to back it up.

Robbie definitely doesn't appear to be an emotionally mature person. He probably isn't that smart either.
 
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