Signing Rumours..

[WestsBenTigers]

Our back five could be
Fullback: Tedesco
Centres: Simona & Idris
Wings: Kevin N & David N
With Charlie Taylor a super-sub on the bench

Just worried whether Idris can be focused and concentrate in centre for for 80 minutes.If he is focused great, if not his poor defensive misses could prove very costly.

He might need a break so he doesn't have concentration lapses during the 2nd half. Then Taylor can come on for the last half hour or so and showcase his skill.
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P.S. Can Charlie Taylor goal-kick?

First problem is that Kev, as good as I think he is - is NOT a winger. I do not understand why people want to put him there. If he is not wanted in the NRL team as a centre, then he has to be dropped to reggies.

Second problem is that Idris is a real bad signing if a centre can't play 80 minutes to start with.
A centre on the bench is real bad because he can play centre and maybe wing - Super Sub he is not.

At least Rankin can play at least 4 or 5 positions.

Taylor is certainly (if he can kick goals), no better than Rankin or Moses.

Maybe the scenario is Kev stays in the centre with Idris, and Simona to the wing - that should stop is brain explosions for awhile. Super sub starts in Reggies and Rankin to the bench. Just a thought.

Simona also started his career at the wests tigers on the wing.

I thought he actually was a winger until I found out that he was a centre.

i still remember watching Simona run down the wing

 

[Flippedy]

I think people are nervous about Ballin because it took him so long to get on the field last yr. It was because there were complications in his recovery, There has been no sign that he's not on the road to being 100% by round 1\. He was injured halfway through the yr. So that plus the off season will give him ample time.

I dont think its nerves about getting on the field in round 1\. Its about can his knees hold up to last more than a game or 2.

Yeah as much as I like Ballin, I am worried that he won't be a viable option next season - bad knees are career killers. So with Ballin a ticking time bomb and Liddle still a baby with minimal first grade experience, who else can we use in the crucial dummy half role for the year? I don't think I could stand another season of Rankin or Taylor being thrown in as stop gap dummy halves.

 

[mustafa]

You pick players in their correct positions, if you want to do well. You don't swap players around. Some positions like wing which is a specialised position, you have to have a proper winger for that position as they know how to play there extensively. You have to have explosive speed for a start and know your positional defense, plus ball skills, reading the game, knowing when to drop back on the 5th tackle etc etc. You just can't just throw anyone there. Its one of the most hardest / difficult positions to play and you have to be on the ball all the time. High balls, grubbers, 40-20s kicks etc . Otherwise you get caught out and the opposition will be planning their attack on your wing all game.
Tim Simona is a centre

 

[WestsBenTigers]

I think people are nervous about Ballin because it took him so long to get on the field last yr. It was because there were complications in his recovery, There has been no sign that he's not on the road to being 100% by round 1\. He was injured halfway through the yr. So that plus the off season will give him ample time.

I dont think its nerves about getting on the field in round 1\. Its about can his knees hold up to last more than a game or 2.

Yeah as much as I like Ballin, I am worried that he won't be a viable option next season - bad knees are career killers. So with Ballin a ticking time bomb and Liddle still a baby with minimal first grade experience, who else can we use in the crucial dummy half role for the year? I don't think I could stand another season of Rankin or Taylor being thrown in as stop gap dummy halves.

Possibly Rankin only to help out with goal-kicking and his versatility. No way to Elijah Taylor he has been so good for us in lock. We need E.T. playing lock, or possibly second-row, for us in 2017.

There have been rumours that we are negotiating with Matt McIllrick. If so I imagine he will play a decent amount of hooker in 2017.

We also have Jeremy Marshall-King. He is an option but I don't expect him too be getting much gametime in the number 9 jersey in 2017.

 

[stevetiger]

Our back five could be
Fullback: Tedesco
Centres: Simona & Idris
Wings: Kevin N & David N
With Charlie Taylor a super-sub on the bench

Just worried whether Idris can be focused and concentrate in centre for for 80 minutes.If he is focused great, if not his poor defensive misses could prove very costly.

He might need a break so he doesn't have concentration lapses during the 2nd half. Then Taylor can come on for the last half hour or so and showcase his skill.
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P.S. Can Charlie Taylor goal-kick?

I would have Charlie T and David N as my wingers. It's a specialised position. Kevin N is not a winger and his defense is no good and would be worse on the wing

I reckon you are right. Kev has been better in the centres than on the wing.

 

[newtiger]

I think people are nervous about Ballin because it took him so long to get on the field last yr. It was because there were complications in his recovery, There has been no sign that he's not on the road to being 100% by round 1\. He was injured halfway through the yr. So that plus the off season will give him ample time.

I dont think its nerves about getting on the field in round 1\. Its about can his knees hold up to last more than a game or 2.

Yeah as much as I like Ballin, I am worried that he won't be a viable option next season - bad knees are career killers. So with Ballin a ticking time bomb and Liddle still a baby with minimal first grade experience, who else can we use in the crucial dummy half role for the year? I don't think I could stand another season of Rankin or Taylor being thrown in as stop gap dummy halves.

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Flip sometimes "baby's" can take that step up straight away, Liddle could be one of those players.
Here's hoping!!!

 

[WestsBenTigers]

I think people are nervous about Ballin because it took him so long to get on the field last yr. It was because there were complications in his recovery, There has been no sign that he's not on the road to being 100% by round 1\. He was injured halfway through the yr. So that plus the off season will give him ample time.

I dont think its nerves about getting on the field in round 1\. Its about can his knees hold up to last more than a game or 2.

Yeah as much as I like Ballin, I am worried that he won't be a viable option next season - bad knees are career killers. So with Ballin a ticking time bomb and Liddle still a baby with minimal first grade experience, who else can we use in the crucial dummy half role for the year? I don't think I could stand another season of Rankin or Taylor being thrown in as stop gap dummy halves.

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Flip sometimes "baby's" can take that step up straight away, Liddle could be one of those players.
Here's hoping!!!

Liddle can never become a good player until he is given the chance.
Now is the time to do it. There is no way Ballin can play 2018 so if Liddle doesn't get first grade experience this year he will have the pressure to perform right away in 2018, with 0 first grade experience.

Lets just ease him into first grade so he gets a taste of what it's like while the pressure isn't on him. Hopefully in the back half of the year he can be our starting hooker each week. Then if Liddle is playing good consistent footy maybe he can guide us to the finals.

Just a thought.

 

[Flippedy]

I dont think its nerves about getting on the field in round 1\. Its about can his knees hold up to last more than a game or 2.

Yeah as much as I like Ballin, I am worried that he won't be a viable option next season - bad knees are career killers. So with Ballin a ticking time bomb and Liddle still a baby with minimal first grade experience, who else can we use in the crucial dummy half role for the year? I don't think I could stand another season of Rankin or Taylor being thrown in as stop gap dummy halves.

o

Flip sometimes "baby's" can take that step up straight away, Liddle could be one of those players.
Here's hoping!!!

Liddle can never become a good player until he is given the chance.
Now is the time to do it. There is no way Ballin can play 2018 so if Liddle doesn't get first grade experience this year he will have the pressure to perform right away in 2018, with 0 first grade experience.

Lets just ease him into first grade so he gets a taste of what it's like while the pressure isn't on him. Hopefully in the back half of the year he can be our starting hooker each week. Then if Liddle is playing good consistent footy maybe he can guide us to the finals.

Just a thought.

Yeah this is true for some, let's hope he is one that can step up easily, otherwise I have no idea what we're gonna do. I just feel we have gone backwards with our hookers - we've gone from having too many qualified options to just one older, injury prone bloke and a rookie with no experience!

Cherrington was eased into first grade well at the end of the season before this one and should've been ready to go as our permanent No 9 next season, imo. However that ship has sailed, now we have to start all over again with Liddle. Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Liddle will be in the side in some form come round 1 barring injury. Not even a question.

 

[851]

Our back five could be
Fullback: Tedesco
Centres: Simona & Idris
Wings: Kevin N & David N
With Charlie Taylor a super-sub on the bench

Just worried whether Idris can be focused and concentrate in centre for for 80 minutes.If he is focused great, if not his poor defensive misses could prove very costly.

He might need a break so he doesn't have concentration lapses during the 2nd half. Then Taylor can come on for the last half hour or so and showcase his skill.
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P.S. Can Charlie Taylor goal-kick?

First problem is that Kev, as good as I think he is - is NOT a winger. I do not understand why people want to put him there. If he is not wanted in the NRL team as a centre, then he has to be dropped to reggies.

Second problem is that Idris is a real bad signing if a centre can't play 80 minutes to start with.
A centre on the bench is real bad because he can play centre and maybe wing - Super Sub he is not.

At least Rankin can play at least 4 or 5 positions.

Taylor is certainly (if he can kick goals), no better than Rankin or Moses.

Maybe the scenario is Kev stays in the centre with Idris, and Simona to the wing - that should stop is brain explosions for awhile. Super sub starts in Reggies and Rankin to the bench. Just a thought.

I agree Kev is no winger, but I disagree and think Idris is a good no risk signing in a position we are weak.
I also disagree about Rankin, anyone on the wing would be an upgrade, and if we play Rankin on the wing all year we are not getting in the 8.

 

[Masterton]

Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

I do. Cherro was flashier in attack, but Liddle is much more direct and far better in defence.

Time will tell, though.

 

[king_sirro]

Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

I do. Cherro was flashier in attack, but Liddle is much more direct and far better in defence.

Time will tell, though.

At first i didnt think so but now i have no doubt at all that Liddle is lengths ahead of Cherrington in every department. Speed, vision, toughness, class….he has it all over Cherrington.

 

[magpiecol]

Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

I do. Cherro was flashier in attack, but Liddle is much more direct and far better in defence.

Time will tell, though.

At first i didnt think so but now i have no doubt at all that Liddle is lengths ahead of Cherrington in every department. Speed, vision, toughness, class….he has it all over Cherrington.

Could not agree more KS. He is tough, smart, clever and quick. Reads a game like a book. He is a great prospect.

Cameron Smith anyone?

 

[Tim Sheens]

Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

I do. Cherro was flashier in attack, but Liddle is much more direct and far better in defence.

Time will tell, though.

At first i didnt think so but now i have no doubt at all that Liddle is lengths ahead of Cherrington in every department. Speed, vision, toughness, class….he has it all over Cherrington.

Different this end as I saw Jacob as our long term future after a couple of viewings and with the attributes you describe, also have no doubt that he will hit the ground running in 2017.

I was suprised though that Mania did not show more, particularly in defence during the limited opportunities he had early this year. Still, no problem with him and the other hooker being shown or pushed out of the door.

 

[WestsBenTigers]

Vaughan has signed with the red v for 3 years on a 1.75 million dollar contract.

Yet another missed opportunity for the tigers.

 

[Geo]

Vaughan has signed with the red v for 3 years on a 1.75 million dollar contract.

Yet another missed opportunity for the tigers.

How is it a missed opportunity…Vaughan may be good but no way he is worth the overs the Dragons have paid to get him....As a Prop who most of his career has come off the bench that's crazy money...

I'm glad we passed if it's the case..

 

[WestsBenTigers]

Vaughan has signed with the red v for 3 years on a 1.75 million dollar contract.

Yet another missed opportunity for the tigers.

How is it a missed opportunity…Vaughan may be good but no way he is worth the overs the Dragons have paid to get him....As a Prop who most of his career has come off the bench that's crazy money...

I'm glad we passed if it's the case..

We would only have paid him about 400 k

If the dragons are willing to pay that much then si be it.

I would like to know what we offered Vaughan

 

[supercoach]

Vaughan has signed with the red v for 3 years on a 1.75 million dollar contract.

Yet another missed opportunity for the tigers.

How is it a missed opportunity…Vaughan may be good but no way he is worth the overs the Dragons have paid to get him....As a Prop who most of his career has come off the bench that's crazy money...

I'm glad we passed if it's the case..

600g or just under is crazy money, but I am afraid that what the market place is willing to pay. What we think a player is worth is usually way under what they get, its the old demand and supply.

Just on Vaughan, I still think he may plod a little when taken away from the green machine, time will tell

 

[Russell]

Does anyone really think Liddle is a better prospect than Cherrington? I have my doubts.

I do. Cherro was flashier in attack, but Liddle is much more direct and far better in defence.

Time will tell, though.

At first i didnt think so but now i have no doubt at all that Liddle is lengths ahead of Cherrington in every department. Speed, vision, toughness, class….he has it all over Cherrington.

Agree KS - Liddle in the long run is a much smarter option than Cherrington. He just couldn't make the grade in defence, anyway that is the Tigersharks problem.

We have the winner in Liddle to share with Ballin and Matt McIlwrick to back them up for 2017.

 

[stevetiger]

Vaughan has signed with the red v for 3 years on a 1.75 million dollar contract.

Yet another missed opportunity for the tigers.

How is it a missed opportunity…Vaughan may be good but no way he is worth the overs the Dragons have paid to get him....As a Prop who most of his career has come off the bench that's crazy money...

I'm glad we passed if it's the case..

I agree. I don't want risky signings. A risky signing to me is when you overpay.