Signings next week

[happy_tiger]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

 

[Geo]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

Debbie Downer..

Ivan has a history of players wanting to play for him…Lewis Brown is on the way..

 

[king_sirro]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

Debbie Downer..

Ivan has a history of players wanting to play for him…Lewis Brown is on the way..

I hope thats a joke. Lewis Brown, while a decent player, is not what we need.

 

[Flippedy]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

I know what you mean Hap, but our past doesn't necessarily have to be our future, things can change. Honestly, this team just needs the right balance and the right structures to play to, which may not necessarily mean we have to spend overs buying heaps of new players. We have some good players - they are just unmotivated & distracted and the team as a whole is completely out of whack, but It doesn't have to stay this way forever.

Look at St George this season compared to last - they have completely turned their game around in a short period of time because they had an honest talk in the off season, have put in some hard work and purchased a few key (but not particularly marquee) players in Vaughan, McCrone and McInnes, who have managed to give the team better balance and the strike power they so lacked last year.

There is no reason why we can't do the same if we aim at buying the right players to compliment what we already have. Of course there are a few we need to shed as well, but by all accounts we've already got McQueen, now if we could just entice guys like Whare, Tupou, Matulino and depending on what happens with our halves maybe someone like Chad Townsend to partner either Moses or Brooks (depending on who stays) I think we will be a much better balanced side and way more competitive week to week.

I must admit I wasn't a big fan, but after hearing him speak and seeing how quickly he has got a handle on our overall problems and what to do to rectify them, I feel that Cleary would definitely be able to attract exactly the right kind players we need in order for us to move forward. It will take some time, I'm not expecting miracles, but I have faith.

 

[happy_tiger]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

I know what you mean Hap, but our past doesn't necessarily have to be our future, things can change. Honestly, this team just needs the right balance and the right structures to play to, which may not necessarily mean we have to spend overs buying heaps of new players. We have some good players - they are just unmotivated & distracted and the team as a whole is completely out of whack, but It doesn't have to stay this way forever.

Look at St George this season compared to last - they have completely turned their game around in a short period of time because they had an honest talk in the off season, have put in some hard work and purchased a few key (but not particularly marquee) players in Vaughan, McCrone and McInnes, who have managed to give the team better balance and the strike power they so lacked last year.

There is no reason why we can't do the same if we aim at buying the right players to compliment what we already have. Of course there are a few we need to shed as well, but by all accounts we've already got McQueen, now if we could just entice guys like Whare, Tupou, Matulino and depending on what happens with our halves maybe someone like Chad Townsend to partner either Moses or Brooks (depending on who stays) I think we will be a much better balanced side and way more competitive week to week.

I must admit I wasn't a big fan, but after hearing him speak and seeing how quickly he has got a handle on our overall problems and what to do to rectify them, I feel that Cleary would definitely be able to attract exactly the right kind players we need in order for us to move forward. It will take some time, I'm not expecting miracles, but I have faith.

Flip problem is its not me you have to convince , its some mamby pamby kid who wants it easy

Only Tiger maniacs can see the good in the WT's

 

[ricksen]

Opportunity is a big part of what we can offer happy.
Vaughan is a good example - he left the Raiders for the Dragons to start games and play big mins. Canberra came 2nd, great facilities etc., the Dragons were a rabble, with their coach seemingly on his last legs.
Seems a great move for all parties thus far.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I don't necessarily agree with that. He was pretty good starting off with Sheens and then was ok under Potter too. Taylor clearly never liked him very much so had him in reserves last year whilst persisting with dead weight like Lovett and Lawrence. Manly came after Sironen pretty hard and he's been great for them all year. If they could see the potential there why couldn't Taylor and Co? And he's only 23 so he has a bright future ahead.

We shouldn't have let him go.

He was average from his very first game imo. Never got the hype around him, seemed to be living off his surname. Not sure why Taylor couldn't do the same

Don't see what he's done that's so special. Besides, you can write a never ending list of players who have gone to new clubs and gotten a new lease of life and looked like a different player. That's the game. No fault of their old club, sometimes players need a change of scenery to click. He had too much expectation here.
Evidently the scouting department at Manly didn't agree with you, and it appears they were right.

He's been playing well under Barrett. Better than a lot of our blokes. Maybe Barrett has been able toget the best out of him. Don't know why Taylor couldn't do the same. I have a fair idea though.

 

[happy_tiger]

Opportunity is a big part of what we can offer happy.
Vaughan is a good example - he left the Raiders for the Dragons to start games and play big mins. Canberra came 2nd, great facilities etc., the Dragons were a rabble, with their coach seemingly on his last legs.
Seems a great move for all parties thus far.

So why did he choose the Dragons over the WT's initially ??

Why go to the rabble when the Tigers are far better

Because the Tigers are only far better in our eyes

You tell people up here you are a Tigers supporter and they feel sorry for you , honestly

 

[newtiger]

He was average from his very first game imo. Never got the hype around him, seemed to be living off his surname. Not sure why Taylor couldn't do the same

Don't see what he's done that's so special. Besides, you can write a never ending list of players who have gone to new clubs and gotten a new lease of life and looked like a different player. That's the game. No fault of their old club, sometimes players need a change of scenery to click. He had too much expectation here.
Evidently the scouting department at Manly didn't agree with you, and it appears they were right.

He's been playing well under Barrett. Better than a lot of our blokes. Maybe Barrett has been able toget the best out of him. Don't know why Taylor couldn't do the same. I have a fair idea though.

Barrett is playing him as a wide ball playing second rower, we tried to use him doing the dirty work which he doesn't excel at.

 

[vlad]

Opportunity is a big part of what we can offer happy.
Vaughan is a good example - he left the Raiders for the Dragons to start games and play big mins. Canberra came 2nd, great facilities etc., the Dragons were a rabble, with their coach seemingly on his last legs.
Seems a great move for all parties thus far.

So why did he choose the Dragons over the WT's initially ??

Why go to the rabble when the Tigers are far better

Because the Tigers are only far better in our eyes

You tell people up here you are a Tigers supporter and they feel sorry for you , honestly

The $$ at the dragons was much bigger , we were basically hamstrung salary cap wise until Dim Sim self imploded , we couldn't compete with a seagull over a chip . Might be a different story for next season .

 

[innsaneink]

He was average from his very first game imo. Never got the hype around him, seemed to be living off his surname. Not sure why Taylor couldn't do the same

Don't see what he's done that's so special. Besides, you can write a never ending list of players who have gone to new clubs and gotten a new lease of life and looked like a different player. That's the game. No fault of their old club, sometimes players need a change of scenery to click. He had too much expectation here.
Evidently the scouting department at Manly didn't agree with you, and it appears they were right.

He's been playing well under Barrett. Better than a lot of our blokes. Maybe Barrett has been able toget the best out of him. Don't know why Taylor couldn't do the same. I have a fair idea though.

Manly have only conceded three tries in their last three games

Thats why theyre ALL playing better…not just Sirro

 

[innsaneink]

Opportunity is a big part of what we can offer happy.
Vaughan is a good example - he left the Raiders for the Dragons to start games and play big mins. Canberra came 2nd, great facilities etc., the Dragons were a rabble, with their coach seemingly on his last legs.
Seems a great move for all parties thus far.

So why did he choose the Dragons over the WT's initially ??

Why go to the rabble when the Tigers are far better

Because the Tigers are only far better in our eyes

You tell people up here you are a Tigers supporter and they feel sorry for you , honestly

Travelling to the 'Gong from Canberra would make his decision easier too, along with more moola

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Don't see what he's done that's so special. Besides, you can write a never ending list of players who have gone to new clubs and gotten a new lease of life and looked like a different player. That's the game. No fault of their old club, sometimes players need a change of scenery to click. He had too much expectation here.
Evidently the scouting department at Manly didn't agree with you, and it appears they were right.

He's been playing well under Barrett. Better than a lot of our blokes. Maybe Barrett has been able toget the best out of him. Don't know why Taylor couldn't do the same. I have a fair idea though.

Manly have only conceded three tries in their last three games

Thats why theyre ALL playing better…not just Sirro

That's right, they've improved a hell of a lot this year. Their Attack and defence is so much better.

 

[supercoach]

Lots of reasons why players choose one club over another, but location has a lot to do with it. The Gong would be very appealing to a lot of players. More affordable, less hustle and bustle and so on. What we have to do is make our club a attractive destination. It was not long ago Penrith was not on many players radar, now they have no trouble attracting players. That is why I am partly surprised they have opted for Concord as their vase,I would have gone for Cambo and given country kids a chance to commute from semi rural areas like the Southern Highlands.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Will Cleary be able to grab the attention of any quality players , I'm not sure

I hope so , but something tells me we will be disappointed with our ins and outs for next year

What makes you think this way Happy?

Insanity perhaps Flip

Seriously though , so many clubs can offer so much more Flip

You can play for the WT's or the Dogs for an example (purposely picked not a great club ) and have state of art training facilities or backward ones

A club with a history of making the finals or a club that has virtually no history

It's a no brainer for most players , they might come to WT's but they'll want overs

And we can't do that moving forwards

I wasn't kidding , if the young fella was today given the option to play for the WT's I'd tell him to wait and see what options open up first

Happy it depends on the salary cap landing.

If the NRL stays under $9M or even $9.5M then the top clubs will have to offload contracted players. My understanding is that only 6 clubs are under $9.5M and only 3 are under $9M

Whilst people look at the increase, the increase also needs to cater for a top 30 man sqaud as well.

We are one of the very few clubs if the cap stays under $9M that are in a very good position to purchase on the market or look for players paid by other clubs for a change.

 

[cktiger]

Lots of reasons why players choose one club over another, but location has a lot to do with it. The Gong would be very appealing to a lot of players. More affordable, less hustle and bustle and so on. What we have to do is **make our club a attractive destination**. It was not long ago Penrith was not on many players radar, now they have no trouble attracting players. That is why I am partly surprised they have opted for Concord as their vase,**I would have gone for Cambo** and given country kids a chance to commute from semi rural areas like the Southern Highlands.

You answered your own question - unfortunately players don't see Campbelltown as being desirable.

 

[Abraham]

Lots of reasons why players choose one club over another, but location has a lot to do with it. The Gong would be very appealing to a lot of players. More affordable, less hustle and bustle and so on. What we have to do is make our club a attractive destination. It was not long ago Penrith was not on many players radar, now they have no trouble attracting players. That is why I am partly surprised they have opted for Concord as their vase,I would have gone for Cambo and given country kids a chance to commute from semi rural areas like the Southern Highlands.

We chose Concord because we are an inner-west based club. That's just the reality of it all.

We might pay lip service to the Macarthur and play a few games there each year, but the club is owned by the Balmain Tigers and Wests Ashfield, and so we are going to be based in the inner-west into the future.

We get the Juniors from the Macarthur region which is great, and when the team is winning the area seems to jump onto the bandwagon. I guess that's the realty of the relationship between the club and that region. and we have to accept that.

 

[ricksen]

Opportunity is a big part of what we can offer happy.
Vaughan is a good example - he left the Raiders for the Dragons to start games and play big mins. Canberra came 2nd, great facilities etc., the Dragons were a rabble, with their coach seemingly on his last legs.
Seems a great move for all parties thus far.

So why did he choose the Dragons over the WT's initially ??

Why go to the rabble when the Tigers are far better

Because the Tigers are only far better in our eyes

You tell people up here you are a Tigers supporter and they feel sorry for you , honestly

Did we even make an offer? We were over the cap for 2017 until Simona did his thing.
Dollars are obviously a factor in all these moves - players are going to want market rate. But there's more to it, and that's what the club has to sell.
And it's a different sell for each player too - some are just going to go to the highest bidder.

As for the last line - the same went for Dragons fans only 5 weeks ago. Their back end to 2016 was even more depressing than ours.

WT is in a bad spot right now, but the future is looking less bleak.

 

[balmain boy]

There's almost 600 000 reasons why Vaughan chose the Dragons. Simple as that. We probably offered him a third of that (what Idris is on).

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Taylor was a diabolically bad coach. Maybe one of the worst ever. To think he had Addo-Carr in reserve grade whilst playing Rankin still makes me feel sick.

Unfair call bro. I feel your frustration but Jt made sacrifices to make the club cap free for 2018 that should not be forgotten especially when he is not than man to benefit from it.

What did that have to do with the team selections he made every week? JAC was available all last year and he put Rankin in ahead of him. Why? He also had Siro and Farah in reserve grade while Lovett and Halatau started. That wasn't cap related, that was just stupidity.

Those selections werent just stupid, they were sabotage. He had vendettas that held precedence over team success.

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