Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Buttface said:
It took him 3 years to finally convince a decent player to sign, he got two! He must have been rubbing his hands together with delight and then chopped!!!
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It also took 3 years for him to get enough cap space to sign a decent player. When he was chopped their was still funds available for further signings. Who knows who he could have attracted. I don't disagree with most of Tom's take on the situation except I think the circumstances beyond his control that influence his output matter.
 
Buttface said:
It took him 3 years to finally convince a decent player to sign, he got two! He must have been rubbing his hands together with delight and then chopped!!!
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Sliding doors moment that one. We chose to hire a senile old man that disintegrated things as soon as he arrived.
 
batboy said:
Why's everyone talking about Hunt?
It's taken almost a decade for anyone to even know he existed.

Hamlen Uele is where we should be focused....
he's on decent coin, and I think he's the one that will need to make room for AFB.

They have Rudolf, Oregon and Big Tommy lower tier money middles to even out AFB's monster deal....
I'd bet BHU will be the one that makes way....
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Thought as much however. The sharks resigned him THIS year.
Good chance he starts alongside AFB.
I think Rudolph is the one who is surplus.
Hunt ain’t going till the following year anyway so it would be signing a 30 year old prop really.
I’d prefer to sniff around Leniu for longevity.
 
weststigerman said:
Assuming Stef is gone, I'm starting to hope he is at this point, I'd rather us go after more effort players than 30 minute impact forwards.

One our best this season has been Seyfarth, and it's not because he's more gifted than any other forwards in our top 30. If we can use Stef's money to find a couple of good experienced forwards known for their effort rather than Franklin Pele/Royce Hunt type of players we'll be better off IMO.

If we need impact, Jordan Miller with another off season can be this guy. Faagutu is another who can do it if he sorts out his defence.
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Yep a guy like Tom Hazelton who just gets the job done
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
If I'm Royce Hunt and told by Benji that 'come here, we want you to lead our middles, on & off the field, instil the steel & aggression in the middle we need & take your game to the next level, we'll get your fitness up to play the first 20 mins & last 20 mins of matches', I'm fired up!

Royce is a beast, doesn't take a backward step, runs hard, scores off crash plays & hits hard. He's played in the RWC final for Samoa with Luai.

He's the victim of being one of many middles at the Sharks so his minutes do get limited but he has played 40+ mins in games/tests.

C'mon Shinesy, get on the Royce train toot toot
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Sharks have a few forwards we should be looking at chasing, especially since they have AFB going there and don't need all of them. Bugger that Hamlin-Uele resigned, he's an underrated player. Hazelton is also good
 
Tom Shines said:
The problem I’ve had is that there is literally nothing to connect him to Wests …. No rumours or media talk,,,nothing …

Do you think he might be in demand from other clubs ? If the answer is yes …then how will they get him to come here ? Let me guess … by paying him more money than he deserves over a longer contract than what you should give to a 29 yr old … I just don’t see Richo doing that .. and I wouldn’t want him too..

Besides …If I’m going to have a pipe dream about a prop with next to no chance of actually coming here than it’s going to be about AFB or Fisher Harris…
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I don't think we should overpay him either, but I think he's a decent forward off contract with his best ahead of him. I think he's a late bloomer who's mostly been off the bench in his career looking for career progression and a challenge. Realistically, seeing he is a Perth boy he might go to the 18th team in 2027. How we play him and coach him is our responsibility, not his, if he comes here.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
If I'm Royce Hunt and told by Benji that 'come here, we want you to lead our middles, on & off the field, instil the steel & aggression in the middle we need & take your game to the next level, we'll get your fitness up to play the first 20 mins & last 20 mins of matches', I'm fired up!

Royce is a beast, doesn't take a backward step, runs hard, scores off crash plays & hits hard. He's played in the RWC final for Samoa with Luai.

He's the victim of being one of many middles at the Sharks so his minutes do get limited but he has played 40+ mins in games/tests.

C'mon Shinesy, get on the Royce train toot toot
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He was excellent for samoa in that world cup campaign. Hamlin-Uele got injured game 1 and throughout the tournament I thought Hunt was Samoa's 2nd best forward after Paulo. Including a pack of Paulo, Papali'i, Hunt, Taupau, Kaufusi, Aloiai
 
rugbygoated said:
I don't think we should overpay him either, but I think he's a decent forward off contract with his best ahead of him. I think he's a late bloomer who's mostly been off the bench in his career looking for career progression and a challenge. Realistically, seeing he is a Perth boy he might go to the 18th team in 2027. How we play him and coach him is our responsibility, not his, if he comes here.
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Over pay him??? He ain't coming brother.. what planet you from?
 
I know we’re talking about trying to get experience in our side and all but if we are being honest it’s a lot of our older and experienced players letting us down.

It’s all the younger players putting in effort and trying their guts out, to great effect or not they are showing more fight and more willingness to chase the game than others and it’s quite embarrassing.

There is talk about younger players not having those “scars of losing” so in their mind everything is possible and it’s clear when we are on the front foot how much is played of the young blokes.

Outside looking in I’d say Stef needs to drop to the bench. Klemmer can stay cause regardless of what people expect or want of him he is not that type of player that AFB, Stef and Haas are. He does his job and he does it well: Make his tackles, take his hit ups and throw the occasional offload. He is consistent in that.

I know a few people on here don’t really like Bloke in Bar or Kemp's takes but I think he’s pretty spot on in the fact that Stef and Klem are way to big of a front row pairing to start the game off. Alex Twal is very agile for a forward and extremely strong defensively so we can sure up the middle and not have soft breaks like against the sharks.
 
WestsTigers4VR said:
I know we’re talking about trying to get experience in our side and all but if we are being honest it’s a lot of our older and experienced players letting us down.

It’s all the younger players putting in effort and trying their guts out, to great effect or not they are showing more fight and more willingness to chase the game than others and it’s quite embarrassing.

There is talk about younger players not having those “scars of losing” so in their mind everything is possible and it’s clear when we are on the front foot how much is played of the young blokes.

Outside looking in I’d say Stef needs to drop to the bench. Klemmer can stay cause regardless of what people expect or want of him he is not that type of player that AFB, Stef and Haas are. He does his job and he does it well: Make his tackles, take his hit ups and throw the occasional offload. He is consistent in that.

I know a few people on here don’t really like Bloke in Bar or Kemp's takes but I think he’s pretty spot on in the fact that Stef and Klem are way to big of a front row pairing to start the game off. Alex Twal is very agile for a forward and extremely strong defensively so we can sure up the middle and not have soft breaks like against the sharks.
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Said this since this pairing started last year. I feel they are too similar and lack mobility. They are both very upright runners. Half the reason why Newcastle improved pairing an unknown Thompson with Safiti after moving on Klemmer. Similar shapes in the forward pack don’t work.
 
Needaname said:
Said this since this pairing started last year. I feel they are too similar and lack mobility. They are both very upright runners. Half the reason why Newcastle improved pairing an unknown Thompson with Safiti after moving on Klemmer. Similar shapes in the forward pack don’t work.
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Neither of them have great leg speed. Even Pole takes a while to wind up, his footwork is great though. It’s that wrecking ball type of forward that everyone on this forum is crying out for. Sadly, they don’t grow on trees.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Neither of them have great leg speed. Even Pole takes a while to wind up, his footwork is great though. It’s that wrecking ball type of forward that everyone on this forum is crying out for. Sadly, they don’t grow on trees.
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I always hear this talk of a “wrecking ball” front rower. To me that just sounds like another way of saying an elite prop.

I’m curious to understand what you mean by that? JFH or Fonua-Blake? Or budget like Royce Hunt?
 
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