Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BAGNF05]

Is it lack of size or is it lack of physicality within our forward pack ?
We have a few good workers in our forward pack led by Terrell May, but aside from Pole and Hunt during his 20-25 minute cameo each week, we don’t have anyone who regularly runs the ball powerfully and puts fear into our opponents.
Samuela Fainu was showing signs of being that player last season, but his running threat has been very minimal so far this season.
Although size and power always helps, we really need a couple of forwards who run the ball at speed and aggressively aka the likes of Liam Martin, Hudson Young, Jacob Preston, Briton Nikora, Dylan Lucas etc.
There is not anyone standing out that fits this description and could be available to sign, so I think we need to take a risk on one or two lesser known players who have converted from being a centre into a back rower, similar to how the Knoghts unearthed Dylan Lucas.

The issue is a lack of explosiveness or in other words leg speed. Early in the season Skelton was enormous in a few games. May, while a goer, is a bit one paced. Pole was obviously out but he likes to stop and shimmy at the line. You don’t get much out of Twaly, Seyfarth or Sam Fainu in go forward. Our centres are really poor in yardage sets especially AD. If To’o was available I’d move heaven and earth to sign him, he does the job of two players when he’s in form.

 

[Buttface]

Yes, that makes sense. Paraphrasing Mr Tsu:

Gameday tactics are like unto water, for water, in its natural course, runs away from high places, and hastens downwards. So, in developing the game plan, the way is to avoid what is strong, and to strike at what is weak.

Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows. The captain works out his victory in relation to the foe in which he is facing. Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so during play, there are no constant conditions.

He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent, and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a Heaven-born Captain."

Our captain worked it out; throw a little dummy step to break the line, and step the FB on the way to the try line.
Rinse and repeat.

 

[Lachlan Galvin's #1 Fan]

To put KPP's potential $700K price tag in perspective, Adam Blair signed for us for about $600K back in 2012. The salary cap back then was about $4.5M. Adjusting for inflation, we signed him for about $1.3M by today's standards.

 

[weststigerman]

To put KPP's potential $700K price tag in perspective, Adam Blair signed for us for about $600K back in 2012. The salary cap back then was about $4.5M. Adjusting for inflation, we signed him for about $1.3M by today's standards.

Who says 700k is his price tag?

 

[Ecto-1]

Who says 700k is his price tag?

That’s what he’s getting paid now I think so it’s just a comparison.

 

[weststigerman]

That’s what he’s getting paid now I think so it’s just a comparison.

It’s only his price tag if he’s still under contract. He’s off contract so we just need to be the highest bidder.

 

[user118245]

It’s only his price tag if he’s still under contract. He’s off contract so we just need to be the highest bidder.

Weren’t we Stefanie’s highest bidder?

 

[weststigerman]

Weren’t we Stefanie’s highest bidder?

We’re not competing with Melbourne for KPP. Newcastle are the only other party from all reports.

 

[Rugba]

We’re not competing with Melbourne for KPP. Newcastle are the only other party from all reports.

Why is that his asking price or not rated by other clubs , as there are many that could do with a 2nd rower

 

[Shanotiger]

We are always going to struggle to sign players as it is death of rep career
. API joins dumped. Lui signs dumped. May second best in comp not looked at. Marshmallow Stef not looked at when hear leaves and straight in.
This has happened for years 2005 not 1 player made Aus team tell me 1 other year the premiers did not have 1 player make Aus team.

 

[Jolls]

Our captain worked it out; throw a little dummy step to break the line, and step the FB on the way to the try line.
Rinse and repeat.

Too right, now the aim has to be to get the team working in unison on avoiding surfaces and exploit gaps; once we have achieved that we will become a top 4 side. Until then we have to learn, and lean to identiy surfaces and gaps in game time.

 

[bbobb]

If Galvin goes to the Dogs we need to get Woods back. Lose one prospect gain another. He'd be the odd man out since they surely aren't playing Burton or Galvin in the forwards...

I think Woods was always a Dogs junior. He is a gifted athlete and to me has potentially a much higher upside than Galvin. The one of interest maybe Alex Conti who was originally a Tiger. He has a game management skillset. Great kicking and passing game and is currently playing 14 for the Dogs in Flegg (Woods is 7)

 

[Tigrr2]

I can't put my finger on it but there is something not right within the playing group. Not sure if it is the grind taking effect or a split in the group themselves. Line speed has dropped off, the scramble has dropped off and the coordination is lacking.

Surely nobody thinks that we train to have Bird, or any other numptie, at first receiver on the fifth. So how or why is the assignment being missed? Does Galvin have the primary kicking role but is struggling to execute it under pressure at NRL level?

We have players and coaching staff that understand what is required - and seriously it isn't that hard to show on a whiteboard or out on the training paddock. There is also no doubt in my mind that Benji and Co are capable of developing a simple game plan to focus our strenghts against a perceived oppostion weakness. So what is happening between the Captain's run and game time?

My gut feel is that we play much straighter in attack on the training paddock and our lateral running is resulting in players being out of postion, or assignments being missed. There is clearly an execution issue - it would be great to get to training and spend time watching how the Captain's run goes down and compare it to what is being executed so we can figure out where the issue lies.

Anyone in a postion to spy for the forum?

Its fallen apart because of the Galvin issue affecting team cohesion and spirit. He is the link man playmaker and his form has fallen off a cliff.He is playing like a slow weak school boy which he is. The sooner Luai is at 5/8 the better

 

[mctiger]

We are always going to struggle to sign players as it is death of rep career
. API joins dumped. Lui signs dumped. May second best in comp not looked at. Marshmallow Stef not looked at when hear leaves and straight in.
This has happened for years 2005 not 1 player made Aus team tell me 1 other year the premiers did not have 1 player make Aus team.

Actually, Scott Prince made the tri-nations squad and played one test - https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/competitions/tri-nations-2005/squads.html

 

[Tito Santana]

Its fallen apart because of the Galvin issue affecting team cohesion and spirit. He is the link man playmaker and his form has fallen off a cliff.He is playing like a slow weak school boy which he is. The sooner Luai is at 5/8 the better

I have it on good account that he especially and TDS to some extent don’t bond as well with the team as the rest of them do.

I think the whole Galvin thing has been more disruptive then I’ve given credit for

 

[jirskyr]

Bellamy is an assistant, of course Stef was getting a leg up

It's in the contract bro.

 

[jirskyr]

I can't put my finger on it but there is something not right within the playing group. Not sure if it is the grind taking effect or a split in the group themselves. Line speed has dropped off, the scramble has dropped off and the coordination is lacking.

Surely nobody thinks that we train to have Bird, or any other numptie, at first receiver on the fifth. So how or why is the assignment being missed? Does Galvin have the primary kicking role but is struggling to execute it under pressure at NRL level?

We have players and coaching staff that understand what is required - and seriously it isn't that hard to show on a whiteboard or out on the training paddock. There is also no doubt in my mind that Benji and Co are capable of developing a simple game plan to focus our strenghts against a perceived oppostion weakness. So what is happening between the Captain's run and game time?

My gut feel is that we play much straighter in attack on the training paddock and our lateral running is resulting in players being out of postion, or assignments being missed. There is clearly an execution issue - it would be great to get to training and spend time watching how the Captain's run goes down and compare it to what is being executed so we can figure out where the issue lies.

Anyone in a postion to spy for the forum?

My take is that the "let Lachy play what is in front of him" experiment has run its course. I think we despo need Latu back and to stay fit for more than 5 minutes. I think Luai is being asked too often, or deferring too often, to giving Galvin the ball.

Latu at 7 and Luai at 6 lets both players handle the ball equally, Luai can focus on runs and kicks, Latu keeps us straight and he distributes fairly well. Latu also has a direct running game.

Currently with Galvin we spend too much energy trying to guess what he's going to do and where he will go. Yes he pokes through here and there, yes he has try assists but he throws 100 grenades a match with the hopes that a few will land in the enemy trenches. Ironically it's very Benji-like, where the lack of structure starts to hurt his team-mates and although we come hard at the end of most matches, its too frantic. There ends up a considerable lowlights reel to match the highlights reel, when really we are begging for a very modest Cooper Cronk-type performance where 90% of the stuff is solid and boring and dependable.

If Latu was back I'd be inclined to try Lachy at lock, so he can still have his efforts but he touches the ball way less and he gets a bit of defensive starch into his game. Or centres. Failing that, you drop him again.

With Latu out however I don't see what other changes you can make except to ask Luai to take more control and pass to Lachy less often.

 

[hsvjones]

My take is that the "let Lachy play what is in front of him" experiment has run its course. I think we despo need Latu back and to stay fit for more than 5 minutes. I think Luai is being asked too often, or deferring too often, to giving Galvin the ball.

Latu at 7 and Luai at 6 lets both players handle the ball equally, Luai can focus on runs and kicks, Latu keeps us straight and he distributes fairly well. Latu also has a direct running game.

Currently with Galvin we spend too much energy trying to guess what he's going to do and where he will go. Yes he pokes through here and there, yes he has try assists but he throws 100 grenades a match with the hopes that a few will land in the enemy trenches. Ironically it's very Benji-like, where the lack of structure starts to hurt his team-mates and although we come hard at the end of most matches, its too frantic. There ends up a considerable lowlights reel to match the highlights reel, when really we are begging for a very modest Cooper Cronk-type performance where 90% of the stuff is solid and boring and dependable.

If Latu was back I'd be inclined to try Lachy at lock, so he can still have his efforts but he touches the ball way less and he gets a bit of defensive starch into his game. Or centres. Failing that, you drop him again.

With Latu out however I don't see what other changes you can make except to ask Luai to take more control and pass to Lachy less often.

I agree with this, and the Galvin experiment has run his course.

If Latu is not ready, I am using Mason or AD in the 6 with Laui as I think the team will respond to not having a guy in the team who has put a bullying claim in and says he is not happy with the coaching (and his only 19 but don't get me started)

No Player wants to play with an upstart kid who want everything and bags the club. Sorry but that's just the real world and the players would never say it

 

[ezybro]

Idk who mentioned Adam Blair but you’ve already ruined my day tomorrow 👌😂

 

[HabboTiger]

My take is that the "let Lachy play what is in front of him" experiment has run its course. I think we despo need Latu back and to stay fit for more than 5 minutes. I think Luai is being asked too often, or deferring too often, to giving Galvin the ball.

Latu at 7 and Luai at 6 lets both players handle the ball equally, Luai can focus on runs and kicks, Latu keeps us straight and he distributes fairly well. Latu also has a direct running game.

Currently with Galvin we spend too much energy trying to guess what he's going to do and where he will go. Yes he pokes through here and there, yes he has try assists but he throws 100 grenades a match with the hopes that a few will land in the enemy trenches. Ironically it's very Benji-like, where the lack of structure starts to hurt his team-mates and although we come hard at the end of most matches, its too frantic. There ends up a considerable lowlights reel to match the highlights reel, when really we are begging for a very modest Cooper Cronk-type performance where 90% of the stuff is solid and boring and dependable.

If Latu was back I'd be inclined to try Lachy at lock, so he can still have his efforts but he touches the ball way less and he gets a bit of defensive starch into his game. Or centres. Failing that, you drop him again.

With Latu out however I don't see what other changes you can make except to ask Luai to take more control and pass to Lachy less often.

Like Benji with no super powers or step