Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Jolls said:
100% agree with the Galvin issue, it is glaringly obvious that his cross field running and poor decision making is affecting the team; however, that is something that anyone can put a finger on. It is the drop off in line speed, the soft middle resulting from a lack of inside pressure etc.

As an example; on the Bud Sullivan break that led to the try on the weekend the A defender was Api. The marker responsible for putting inside pressure on the receiver was Luai. If the system was working Sullivan would have no reason to come back in behind the ruck because of the inside pressure that was following, in this case Twal and May. As the play was heading towards the wing Api had Sulivan on his outside shoulder and heading that way, Luai was called out of the play by the referee and Sam F ran into him, that was enough for Sullivan to step off his right foot. Twal and May were not pushing across, instead just looking on. Had they been following the play across this gap would have been plugged and the play snuffed out there.

Take the get out of the in goal and the try on the opposite side of the field on the last by Melbourne and the exploitation of the middle in broken play by Saints and you start to see the pattern. The line speed droping right off, inside pressure not being exerted and the scramble falling away are signs of something bigger: tiredness (it was early days against Melboune for the try on the last) due to the grind, overtraining or attitude.

If we could execute the defensive structure well for 8 games - what has caused us to fall off the cliff in the last three? Galvin running sideways affects our ability to put points on the board and him/Seyfarth being targetting in defence has provided plenty of post contact meters for the oppostion - but the tries are being leaked through what was a pretty solid middle and the ability to cover and recover from any defensive errors.

Where has that gone and why?
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Do you think fatigue could be an issue? the boys played 11 straight without a bye and have done a lot of travelling the last 3 weeks.
 
Oldman said:
I think you are way off the mark here, Go look at any junior rep sides from under 14 upwards and they are all dominantly filled with islander boys and they bond together with all their different cultures with no issues.
Sides are dominated by boys with islander heritage because they have the body shape and size that is best suited to Rugby League,
Where as (as you call them) the white boys dominate in AFL.
But most of all kids today mix and get on well with most other nationalities regardless of their colour or religion.
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Yeah well said oldman...took the words outta my mouth.

Its not an islander thing....but I have wondered if playing with men, seasoned NRL hardened men is getting to LG.

Hes gone straight from whatever, Matts or Flegg into NRL...big jump and not gradual at all....and while a lot of these 'men' ...imo...carry on like kids with gaming and vlogging etc ...maybe hes starting to lose the fun aspect, not just because of his team mates but the high pressure requirements needed for professional NRL
We all here how he just wants to have fun and play footy, play what he sees...sorry Lachy those days are over...this is high stakes big business ..not junior reps any more playing with your school mates....is taht what he yearns for going back to his old high school teacher/coach?
 
WesternSuburbsBoy said:
Do you think fatigue could be an issue? the boys played 11 straight without a bye and have done a lot of travelling the last 3 weeks.
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Maybe for a new combination or young side but it’s not an excuse for a professional football team.
The Sharks have had far worst of a draw in terms of travel only playing their 3rd home game last week after 7 weeks on the road.
Keep an eye on the Raiders who have their first bye round 15 and see if they drop off!
 
innsaneink said:
Yeah well said oldman...took the words outta my mouth.

Its not an islander thing....but I have wondered if playing with men, seasoned NRL hardened men is getting to LG.

Hes gone straight frome whatever, Mattas or Flegg into NRL...big jump and not gradual at all....and while a lot of these 'men' ...imo...carry on like kids with gaming and vlogging etc ...maybe hes starting to lose the fun aspect, not just because of his team mates but the high pressure requirements needed for professional NRL
We all here how he just wants to have fun and play footy, play what he sees...sorry Lachy those days are over...this is high stakes big business ..not junior reps any more playing with your school mates....is taht what he yearns for going back to his old high school teacher/coach?
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Agree Ink
People have to remember Galvin is a 19y old KID playing NRL and is learning his trade.
As I have mentioned before I am glad he didn’t look at our offer as in the end we might all be counting our lucky stars that we saved that cash.
No body knows how his career is going to turn out but I wish him well wherever he plays.
 
Guys I don't think we should be dis-heartened by the last few weeks. Injury has hit us early this year with Skelton, Toa, Pole being out on different occasions. We also need to understand that two of our starting vets aren't pulling their weight either.

I haven't seen any value from Jack bird in attack or defense, he has been emotional, slow in defense and doesnt have a sneaky off load or have any crafty passes in his game to be considered a good lock at this point.

I also dont understand why Royce hunt (the biggest guy in the pack) is playing softly. He runs off the back fence just to go down as soon as he touches a denfender. He adds no defensive power as Api, May, Twal and Luai end up tackling almost everybody.

Dont even get me started on staines or naden.

On the other hand, many of our players have stepped up over the last 10 weeks. Our defense has been a lot tighter then the last few weeks. Keep in mind, we have only been flogged twice, brisbane & melbourne who have the two best teams in the comp.

Hopfully we get Latu back in, I also would try and fit Sukkar and TDS into the starting side moving forward.

Drop Glavin, Bird, Naden and Stains, replace seyfarth and twal with new recruits next year.

Overall, we actually haven't done as bad as everyone is saying. We are miles better than last year, we just have a few cracks that can be patched up over this season and the next.

Claws out tigers, im still confident in a top 8 finish this season.
 
WesternSuburbsBoy said:
Do you think fatigue could be an issue? the boys played 11 straight without a bye and have done a lot of travelling the last 3 weeks.
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If it is it is a concern, however, look at the Donkeys and how the "overtraining" is affecting them. Benji doesn't strike me as that type of coach - but then again I haven't been to a training session. The one time I was in Sydney I tried but the CoE was quiet.

I personally think it is a mental issue as opposed to a physical one; perhaps it is a bit of both - the grind of week in week out NRL level on body and desire. Whatever it is I trust we find the cause and fix it over the next fortnight.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
It is good that one of our Balmain juniors has returned and I believe he was rated the best centre prospect produced by Holy Cross.
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So they say...

I think there's more to this story though...
He went to the Knights & was stuck behind Gagai & Best.... that's a hard act to follow.

He was shopped to super league clubs however he's ended up at the magpies.

I believe has has the desire to back himself and still chase the NRL dream. He's played a bunch of different positions in cup the past few weeks and has consistently looked good and got better with each game.

A kid with a dream and the desire to succeed.... interested to see how we manage this.

I'll say he's better than Lobb, Feledy and Fataape.
 
Demps said:
So they say...

I think there's more to this story though...
He went to the Knights & was stuck behind Gagai & Best.... that's a hard act to follow.

He was shopped to super league clubs however he's ended up at the magpies.

I believe has has the desire to back himself and still chase the NRL dream. He's played a bunch of different positions in cup the past few weeks and has consistently looked good and got better with each game.

A kid with a dream and the desire to succeed.... interested to see how we manage this.

I'll say he's better than Lobb, Feledy and Fataape.
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He also suffered a bad run of injuries and the Knights have purchased Brown.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Hunt is our #1 bulldozer. You can see how much he provides when he's on the field in terms of team lifting with his charges. We just need more of it.

In our roster, his understudy for this role is Kit Laulilii who is still a couple of years away from providing any semblance of similar impact.
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Not a fan of Kit.
IMO he will never make it from what I have seen. I think hew has already peaked.
 
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