Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Anyway, moving on from TDS.

We need to be active in the player market.
I know they like the waiting game.
So did Pascoe.

We need;
- figure out who of our off contract lads we may be wanting to keep
- who we're extending [Starford, Api, etx]
- improve our depth +
- bring in further players to benefit our squad

I'm hoping Taylan May comes out strong this weekend as I've got high hopes for him, filling our starting centre role.

KPP in is also an upgrade.

But it can't stop there.
 
Demps said:
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
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100% agree and have been saying so for a while now.
This could have been managed to work.
For Tallyn to take such a hardline stance, I.e. it’s him or me, gives me a bad feeling that there’s a freight train coming straight at this club and it might cost us more names yet.
 
Tucker said:
100% agree and have been saying so for a while now.
This could have been managed to work.
For Tallyn to take such a hardline stance, I.e. it’s him or me, gives me a bad feeling that there’s a freight train coming straight at this club and it might cost us more names yet.
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I've seen a few group photos 📸

It's Jordan Miller + Galvin + TDS & the Lualilii bros.

Two gone already and one appears likely the same way.

More names, u say.....
 
Demps said:
Yeah, something going on for sure.

To me, it feels like, he was promised something and it hasn't been delivered.

He and Api are both contracted until the end of 2026. Maybe he thought he'd put the work in to take over after that and now all this Api extension talks has come to light.

In an ideal world we can keep both.
I really want that to happen.

I'd be happy to give Api + 1 year then a job after footy with him being aware that we're building TDS to be the #1 hooker

It's disheartening for sure that we'll be losing another serious talent, one that I thought had a serious future at our club.
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I dunno maybe . Maybe api said he was going to move on at the end of this contract , and now he doesn’t want to .
I still think the rapid rise of Hayward is a variable . Even if it’s to offer an alternate path should TDS want to go .
His management arnt stupid though . Another year , and now TDS is starting 9 in KOE , and in and out of first grade either starting or off the bench . By that point Hayward would be well and rely entrenched in the KOE team , and heaping pressure on TDS / turning heads .
The kid is rising and rising fast. .His arrivsl
In Jersey flegg along with the sacking of thier coaching staff , has led to a rapid form reversal in that team , and he’s front and centre in everything that’s good about them at the moment .
 
Lestronge said:
I dunno maybe . Maybe api said he was going to move on at the end of this contract , and now he doesn’t want to .
I still think the rapid rise of Hayward is a variable . Even if it’s to offer an alternate path should TDS want to go .
His management arnt stupid though . Another year , and now TDS is starting 9 in KOE , and in and out of first grade either starting or off the bench . By that point Hayward would be well and rely entrenched in the KOE team , and heaping pressure on TDS / turning heads .
The kid is rising and rising fast. .His arrivsl
In Jersey flegg along with the sacking of thier coaching staff , has led to a rapid form reversal in that team , and he’s front and centre in everything that’s good about them at the moment .
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It's all possible.

TDS is a must keep imo
But it's not looking good
 
Reading the tea leaves and digesting what others have said, it would appear the club and TDS decided to see if they could get a loan deal up that possible involved a player swap..Knights being the obvious target. The market place than started offering TDS starting roles and a bucket more cash and what young kid would not be interested.

Seems to me what started out as a good fix for both TDS and the club has backfired on the club but not TDS. It still has me puzzled why we would release him before the end of June deadline if now there is nothing in it for the club. I would have thought the club could have worked out a solution that both Api and TDS could both shared the no9 role.

Anyway next few days all should be revealed
 
Demps said:
We've backed Api and I get it....

But, TDS should've been made to feel important too. You know how fragile some egos are. It probably could've been handled better.

It'll be a shame.
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I don’t know what the club has to do to let the kid know he’s the future . Like what more do they need to do ? Seriously …
He can’t tackle for 80 mins in the front line at the moment , so any team who is going to run him out there , will need to put the best defensive middles they can find around him . Which is why Benji said just wait for your body to grow and develop , they’ve told him that . He was always supposed to spend this season as the 9 in KOE and dominate that level . He’s halfway through and like “I’m too good for this “ . Yea no shit bro ! Thats the point . But you’re not good enough defensively for the nrl yet . You’re stuck between the grades . Just like liddle was before you . Simpkin was before you .
The clubs obviously made promises and reneged on them . I that’s true . But for good reason IMO . Tallyn isn’t there physically for nrl yet . Another offseason of weights and he probably will be . I don’t get why this is happening now even if api resigns for another year .
There’s every chance Tallyn takes his spot next year and api is coming off the bench … but no way on earth is Tallyn anywhere near Apis level right now . And it’s nonsense to even argue that point. .
 
Demps said:
I've seen a few group photos 📸

It's Jordan Miller + Galvin + TDS & the Lualilii bros.

Two gone already and one appears likely the same way.

More names, u say.....
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was gonna reply to ur other post about resignings and suggest the Lualilii bros. I guess that answers that.
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Got some crumbs yesterday but been super busy. Again, take with a grain of salt but he's been pretty reliable so far...

Apparently, the whole TDS wants out thing is BS. The club sat with him months ago. He wants to stay and they want to keep him BUT he (ie. his manager) thinks he needs to have more 80-minute performances or lose his conditioning/fitness/marketability. Thus, the potential Harry Grant style swap deal. Could be for the rest of the year or for next year. But other clubs are offering more... Watch this space.

Also, looks like Doueihi is gone. Rejected our lowball offer and has got himself a rep that Benji does not want to deal with (read I. Moses). Think he will go to highest bidder or potentially extend one year with us then go to Perth.

Finally, the Adam Reynolds deal was closer than reported. But we're still in the market for big names (whatever that means -- but I'd say experienced marquee signings). Not sure who are available though which makes me think there are some chats happening behind the scenes. But he's adamant we are after some BIG FISH. Fingers crossed if true
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Demps said:
I think there's a way we can make this work.

Penrith did this, with Mitch Kenny coming through.

Api would play in the 9 jersey but from the bench.
Love to see a way where we can bring this in down the track with TDS.

I'm still hopeful a deal can be done where we keep both.
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Hi Demps
The difference I see with TDS is that Mitch Kenny is a great defensive no:9 and started in those games in the softening up period allowing API to come on fresh against tired forwards.
Looking at TDS he is not that Mitch Kenny type of player.
 
Lestronge said:
I don’t know what the club has to do to let the kid know he’s the future . Like what more do they need to do ? Seriously …
He can’t tackle for 80 mins in the front line at the moment , so any team who is going to run him out there , will need to put the best defensive middles they can find around him . Which is why Benji said just wait for your body to grow and develop , they’ve told him that . He was always supposed to spend this season as the 9 in KOE and dominate that level . He’s halfway through and like “I’m too good for this “ . Yea no shit bro ! Thats the point . But you’re not good enough defensively for the nrl yet . You’re stuck between the grades . Just like liddle was before you . Simpkin was before you .
The clubs obviously made promises and reneged on them . I that’s true . But for good reason IMO . Tallyn isn’t there physically for nrl yet . Another offseason of weights and he probably will be . I don’t get why this is happening now even if api resigns for another year .
There’s every chance Tallyn takes his spot next year and api is coming off the bench … but no way on earth is Tallyn anywhere near Apis level right now . And it’s nonsense to even argue that point. .
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Maybe not play Api for 80mins each game ?
After all he didn’t play 80mins per game at any of his previous clubs.
We were doing fine and winning our fair share of games when Tallyn was regularly coming on for Api and making an impact.
Our results have not been so good since Benji decided against that plan.
 
Lestronge said:
I don’t know what the club has to do to let the kid know he’s the future . Like what more do they need to do ? Seriously …
He can’t tackle for 80 mins in the front line at the moment , so any team who is going to run him out there , will need to put the best defensive middles they can find around him . Which is why Benji said just wait for your body to grow and develop , they’ve told him that . He was always supposed to spend this season as the 9 in KOE and dominate that level . He’s halfway through and like “I’m too good for this “ . Yea no shit bro ! Thats the point . But you’re not good enough defensively for the nrl yet . You’re stuck between the grades . Just like liddle was before you . Simpkin was before you .
The clubs obviously made promises and reneged on them . I that’s true . But for good reason IMO . Tallyn isn’t there physically for nrl yet . Another offseason of weights and he probably will be . I don’t get why this is happening now even if api resigns for another year .
There’s every chance Tallyn takes his spot next year and api is coming off the bench … but no way on earth is Tallyn anywhere near Apis level right now . And it’s nonsense to even argue that point. .
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No doubt. Api is our guy.

But we've all seen how much these juniors have been gassed up. They think they're superstars already. Seeing Galvin at the dogs chewing gum and dapping up his mate Vella... who are youuuuu 😂😂 TDS might be thinking he's that guy too.

Interesting times ahead.
 
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