Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Jolls]

You believe what you want to believe, but I was told by someone who I’m near certain is in a much better place to pass judgement than what you are, that it was very unlikely Doueihi would take a pay cut to re-sign with us.
Based on that information I’m assuming we have either matched the other offer, or as I’ve speculated, there could be a Wests Tigers supporter and Adam Doueihi fan who was willing to assist financially to help keep him at the club.
That’s not illegal, it’s how the 3rd party sponsorships work as far as I am aware.
If Douehi simply took a pay cut to stay with us, than that’s fantastic news, but unlikely based on my information.

Your take on TPA are incorrect.

TPAS are between player and a third party and can not be influenced or have anything to do with the club. Using a TPA as a lever to get a player to sign for less is a breach of the salary cap rules. Putting them in touch with a financial advisor etc isn't. I'm not going to say that there aren't "arrangements" made that breach the cap rules but any admission would be stupid as a club would be in breach.

 

[rex2ce]

no Doobie didn't pay commission to Izzak , club didn't stump it up either,

Ok what are the numbers ?

 

[weststigers]

Don't know what games you've been watching.

Form generally indicates multiple games in a row.

 

[Merlot]

Ok what are the numbers ?

they stayed the same ,yet its bad business if Doobie doesnt tip something onto Moses,So Doobie is out of pocket to moses

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Interesting ...

He said that he would meet with Marshall in the off-season to discuss his long-term position within the team.

“I feel as though I’m really comfortable touching the ball in the middle of the field and being involved in the big plays and so whether that’s at lock or in the halves, I feel as though that’s where my assets are best used.’’

Doueihi is a genuine utility who is also a good athlete with size, power, pace and a good long kicking game. The latter is a asset we've never utilised to the fullest. He also has an uncatchable high kick. From memory he was a schoolboy international rugby player.

 

[orange&black]

AD re-signing and hopefully Taylan May as well, and assuming we do not re-sign any other off contract players, then I think that leaves us with only one spot left, unless we are able to shed a couple such as Sullivan.

 

[Merlot]

Your take on TPA are incorrect.

TPAS are between player and a third party and can not be influenced or have anything to do with the club. Using a TPA as a lever to get a player to sign for less is a breach of the salary cap rules. Putting them in touch with a financial advisor etc isn't. I'm not going to say that there aren't "arrangements" made that breach the cap rules but any admission would be stupid as a club would be in breach.

Why cant You Vicious or myself being a 3rd party , if no club membership get involved ? as a - 3rd party

 

[pawsandclaws1]

38 - 12 the Panthers' way against the Knights. The Panthers are hungry tonight. KPP has had a v/good game with a great covering tackle on the sideline on Jenkins to save a try. The Panthers have had most of the possession, so KPP has made a lot of tackles, many one on one. He's made try saving tackles on the goal line on To'o and another a minute or so ago I believe on Mclean. He put a big hit around the hips on a Panthers' forward. Luckily Jenkins scored as Liam Martin held the ball when he made a break and was tackled near the Knights' goal line. He had the centre and To'o unmarked outside of him.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Mam and Cobbo apparently out for the season. Reynolds may be back. Just announced.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

I’m saying based on what I know, there is a possibility a 3rd party sponsorship deal could have been part of the deal to help get Douehi’s signature across the line.
If that is true, it’s great for Wests Tigers and our salary cap management.

Yep - the 3rd Party deal is with a clothing Manufacturer of Khoduroy Trousers. I've seen their Summer range of Khod Shorts and they are flipping fantastic! 🤪 🤪🤪

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Mam and Cobbo apparently out for the season. Reynolds may be back. Just announced.

I wonder whether Jock will get a look in? First game back in Q Cup tomorrow after his pec injury.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I wonder whether Jock will get a look in? First game back in Q Cup tomorrow after his pec injury.

Walters did mention him as the obvious replacement together with Hunt. It would be good for him and WTs to get NRL experience in the run up to the finals.

 

[tigahhh]

26 - 0 the Panthers' way against the Knights. The Panthers are hungry tonight. KPP has had a v/good game with a great covering tackle on the sideline on Jenkins to save a try. The Panthers have had most of the possession, so KPP has made a lot of tackles, many one on one. He's made try saving tackles on the goal line on To'o and another a minute or so ago I believe on Mclean. He put a big hit around the hips on a Panthers' forward. Luckily Jenkins scored as Liam Martin held the ball when he made a break and was tackled near the Knights' goal line. He had the centre and To'o unmarked outside of him.

he’s such a unit

 

[hsvjones]

I see Javon Andrews has been pulled from Tweed QLD cup team??

Wonder if that's because of injury or because he signed elsewhere/.

 

[Jolls]

Why cant You Vicious or myself being a 3rd party , if no club membership get involved ? as a - 3rd party

That would be OK; if we made a deal with AD. However, if the deal meant Wests Tigers could offer "unders" then it is a breach. There has to be complete separation of the the third party and the club. For example; we couldn't chat with Richo and say that if AD signs for X tell him that we'll top him up with a thrid party advertising deal worth 100K; but,, we could approach AD directly, or post contract signature, and offer him an 100K advertising deal as a means to increase our market exposure. While similar in nature it is the invovement of the club that differentiates what is and isn't included in the cap.

 

[Vicious]

That would be OK; if we made a deal with AD. However, if the deal meant Wests Tigers could offer "unders" then it is a breach. There has to be complete separation of the the third party and the club. For example; we couldn't chat with Richo and say that if AD signs for X tell him that we'll top him up with a thrid party advertising deal worth 100K; but,, we could approach AD directly, or post contract signature, and offer him an 100K advertising deal as a means to increase our market exposure. While similar in nature it is the invovement of the club that differentiates what is and isn't included in the cap.

The Roosters, Bulldogs, Broncos, Storm seem to master these 3rd party deals.
Hopefully Richo is thinking of if I can’t beat them, join them ?

 

[Jolls]

The Roosters, Bulldogs, Broncos, Storm seem to master these 3rd party deals.
Hopefully Richo is thinking of if I can’t beat them, join them ?

I think you will find that they are way smarter than to dabble in this sort of caper. They off things like the provision of financial advice, discounted rates for fianancial management and brown paper bags etc. Loose lips sink ships and it would only take one slip to have a salacry cap investigation for a dodgy TPA.

What we don't know is what our players are getting from Pepper Money in doscounted services, investment "advice" etc.

 

[Merlot]

That would be OK; if we made a deal with AD. However, if the deal meant Wests Tigers could offer "unders" then it is a breach. There has to be complete separation of the the third party and the club. For example; we couldn't chat with Richo and say that if AD signs for X tell him that we'll top him up with a thrid party advertising deal worth 100K; but,, we could approach AD directly, or post contract signature, and offer him an 100K advertising deal as a means to increase our market exposure. While similar in nature it is the invovement of the club that differentiates what is and isn't included in the cap.

comprenday ,get your point now ,thanks. But im still sure i can 3rd party a player ,being a non member fan

 

[Wiz]

I think you will find that they are way smarter than to dabble in this sort of caper. They off things like the provision of financial advice, discounted rates for fianancial management and brown paper bags etc. Loose lips sink ships and it would only take one slip to have a salacry cap investigation for a dodgy TPA.

What we don't know is what our players are getting from Pepper Money in doscounted services, investment "advice" etc.

I don’t think so. I would guess all, or almost all, clubs are illegally in touch with 3rd parties to arrange deals for their players. Parramatta just got caught from ~10 years ago that they were involved in arranging an illegal deal for Anthony Watmough. The evidence came out during the winding up of the said company. Same with Mark Gasnier when his brother sued him. The evidence was presented in court how the Dragons were illegally involved in arranging these payments ~15 years ago.

 

[Jolls]

comprenday ,get your point now ,thanks. But im still sure i can 3rd party a player ,being a non member fan

You can, no problems.