Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Yes …but a new 13 would move Twal to starting prop or bench, so I have 13 as more of a need…

Also Sione back in the prop rotation when KPP arrives
think you could run with May or Doueihi at 13 and it would be fine, the issue is we need a pig that can scatter defenders on play one. we don't have that currently.

not totally against us finding a 13 but I think we might have a suitable one in-house. prop is the issue.
 
Yes …but a new 13 would move Twal to starting prop or bench, so I have 13 as more of a need…

Also Sione back in the prop rotation when KPP arrives
Thoughts on Terrell May as a 13 TS? He gets through a lot of work and can ball play a little bit but what the team is lacking is a real physical presence in the middle. Give me an aggressive 50-60 minute pack leader at prop and I think we can cover lock.
 
think you could run with May or Doueihi at 13 and it would be fine, the issue is we need a pig that can scatter defenders on play one. we don't have that currently.

not totally against us finding a 13 but I think we might have a suitable one in-house. prop is the issue.
100% that is where the deficiency lies. I outlined in the deep dive how I see the May/AD thing working. May could well play 13 as he has all of the skill but looking at the way our "style" is coming along I see AD as a link to get both JL and Latu wider as required and May as the cue for ad lib second phase play with Api up his bum and Luia trailing.

To me Royce has clearly been struggling with and injury and that is a problem for us - we need at least one more to gut us the momentum to really make this work. Get them on the back foot, May with a late offload agaisnt a retreating defence - cue Api to JL in broken field with Bula and the other May pushing up in support and Sam F running na inside shoulder line just waiting to be hit.
 
think you could run with May or Doueihi at 13 and it would be fine, the issue is we need a pig that can scatter defenders on play one. we don't have that currently.

not totally against us finding a 13 but I think we might have a suitable one in-house. prop is the issue.
Beat me to it. Not many fitting the profile coming off contract for 26 though. Pick of the bunch who are gettable are probably:

Lindsay Smith
Koloamatangi
Hamlin Uele

(I excluded Hass for obvious reasons)

Thoughts on Sam Hughes? I think he is going to fit the "plodder" category of Prop but I haven't watched him that much. Probably a squeeze with Leo Thompson on his way.
 
100% that is where the deficiency lies. I outlined in the deep dive how I see the May/AD thing working. May could well play 13 as he has all of the skill but looking at the way our "style" is coming along I see AD as a link to get both JL and Latu wider as required and May as the cue for ad lib second phase play with Api up his bum and Luia trailing.

To me Royce has clearly been struggling with and injury and that is a problem for us - we need at least one more to gut us the momentum to really make this work. Get them on the back foot, May with a late offload agaisnt a retreating defence - cue Api to JL in broken field with Bula and the other May pushing up in support and Sam F running na inside shoulder line just waiting to be hit.
genuinely incredible analysis mate and really breaks it down beautifully. the key is ensuring AD is big enough and ugly enough to make 50 tackles at 95% efficiency in the middle. we get that sorted and he will revolutionise our attack in the way you describe.

on Royce, I tend to agree, and for that reason I wouldn't be super hasty to shop him. that said, we need a starter that can get our midfield and good ball sets rolling. half the issue last week when we had multiple sets on Manly's line and came up with nothing was because we don't have a middle that can generate momentum out of nothing. we find that and we'll be cooking.
 
Beat me to it. Not many fitting the profile coming off contract for 26 though. Pick of the bunch who are gettable are probably:

Lindsay Smith
Koloamatangi
Hamlin Uele

(I excluded Hass for obvious reasons)

Thoughts on Sam Hughes? I think he is going to fit the "plodder" category of Prop but I haven't watched him that much. Probably a squeeze with Leo Thompson on his way.
I like Hughes but I worry about his motor, although Ciraldo tends to use a big forward as a human shield in the first 15 before making way for the smaller forwards when the sting's been taken out of the game. he is 24 and has the physical tools to make good. I'd certainly be having a chat.

Liam Henry as I mentioned earlier in the week and Tuku Hau Taphua are another two I'd look into as well.
 
100% that is where the deficiency lies. I outlined in the deep dive how I see the May/AD thing working. May could well play 13 as he has all of the skill but looking at the way our "style" is coming along I see AD as a link to get both JL and Latu wider as required and May as the cue for ad lib second phase play with Api up his bum and Luia trailing.

To me Royce has clearly been struggling with and injury and that is a problem for us - we need at least one more to gut us the momentum to really make this work. Get them on the back foot, May with a late offload agaisnt a retreating defence - cue Api to JL in broken field with Bula and the other May pushing up in support and Sam F running na inside shoulder line just waiting to be hit.
Whilst Doueihi was good again, with Latu also playing well despite being shuffled a bit because of the To'a injury. I saw Fainu as somewhat limited/wasted when playing as the 13 in attack and particularly when we were in their 20 for so long.

He is a tough (not so) little hombre that can handle the middle, though for mine needs to be played a little wider to better take advantage of defensive lines, particularly those that are compressed or not retreating.
 
While I agree with you I think the 13 decision has been made. AD is most likely to transition to 13 with Latu into half. Have a look at the Deep Dive (here) for the reasoning.
For me it’s one more NRL run on prop. We have one in our squad, we need at least one more so all the other bench props we have can fulfill their roles as bench props.
I’m going back to check ya dive again I been speed reading them, I’m trying to finish a build before I start another diploma. But I reckon a high quality no.10 to complete the book end will free up Benji and the pack and allow everyone to play the role they are good at. And I have to say again Sione Fainu just keeps impressing me. He really changed last year when his Bros arrived, and has improved again this year. He’s turning into a good reliable member of the pack who is adaptable and can play any position in it to an acceptable NRL level. I’m not sure where his best spot is long term, but he is my second forward picked every week and then I’d find a spot for him that suits team. He looks like he’s loving life and footy right now, that’s gotta be a lot to do with Benji too.
 
Whilst Doueihi was good again, with Latu also playing well despite being shuffled a bit because of the To'a injury. I saw Fainu as somewhat limited/wasted when playing as the 13 in attack and particularly when we were in their 20 for so long.

He is a tough (not so) little hombre that can handle the middle, though for mine needs to be played a little wider to better take advantage of defensive lines, particularly those that are compressed or not retreating.
In the current setup definitely agree. I think the transition will happen over the offseason. I share jrtigers concerns about AFs ability to absorb the defensive requirements so it may need to be a role.shared with Twal until he is capable.of.handling the grind.
 
For me it’s one more NRL run on prop. We have one in our squad, we need at least one more so all the other bench props we have can fulfill their roles as bench props.
I’m going back to check ya dive again I been speed reading them, I’m trying to finish a build before I start another diploma. But I reckon a high quality no.10 to complete the book end will free up Benji and the pack and allow everyone to play the role they are good at. And I have to say again Sione Fainu just keeps impressing me. He really changed last year when his Bros arrived, and has improved again this year. He’s turning into a good reliable member of the pack who is adaptable and can play any position in it to an acceptable NRL level. I’m not sure where his best spot is long term, but he is my second forward picked every week and then I’d find a spot for him that suits team. He looks like he’s loving life and footy right now, that’s gotta be a lot to do with Benji too.
Spot on
 
In the current setup definitely agree. I think the transition will happen over the offseason. I share jrtigers concerns about AFs ability to absorb the defensive requirements so it may need to be a role.shared with Twal until he is capable.of.handling the grind.
Perhaps this is the model, you have AD who is a weaker defender, however, surround him with middles that have a high work rate and tackle percentage like Twal & May, this could be why Royce is not really working for us and perhaps why we seem to be selective about the middle we could be targeting. Problem is you have Api as a weak link (ordinary effective tackle %), would probably work better with a Reece Robson style 9.
 
Thoughts on Terrell May as a 13 TS? He gets through a lot of work and can ball play a little bit but what the team is lacking is a real physical presence in the middle. Give me an aggressive 50-60 minute pack leader at prop and I think we can cover lock.

Yes… a possibility I think …maybe not top of the list for me but one they can work with if they find the big name prop instead .,,ultimately it might depend on who they can sign .

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While I agree with you I think the 13 decision has been made. AD is most likely to transition to 13 with Latu into half. Have a look at the Deep Dive [

Not that I support it , but I’m starting to think there is a strong possibility that AD is the half next year and Latu will be the 14 utility

think you could run with May or Doueihi at 13 and it would be fine, the issue is we need a pig that can scatter defenders on play one. we don't have that currently.

not totally against us finding a 13 but I think we might have a suitable one in-house. prop is the issue.

If a good 13 becomes available… I hope they try to sign him …let’s see what shakes out… the prop you want might not eventuate
 
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