Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Sorry, nut can't help being a little cheeky here but after reading the past six pages on this thread there may be some who wold list Pascoe as a rookie to watch in 2020.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals
 
Spot on Strongee, Pascoe has nailed just about everything he's set out to do. Turned a profit, signed a top line coach, presided over the securing of juniors. Only the Robbie and Ivan debacle have been issues, and to say they're directly of his malevolent doing is a long bow to draw.
 
Had to skim because there's so much off topic garbage, has there been anything RE signings in the last 5-10 pages? Seriously...
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Extremely simplistic.

Was brought in when Taylor was already here. Blindsighted by clearly (as were we all). Best coach we've ever had now.

Intentions were right with the Robbie debacle and it was early in his tenure.

Had a massive cap issue to repair for most of his tenure so missing finals is almost a given.

If you reward CEOs who take short term over long term, like we always have, we'll never get out of our hole.
 
@hammertime said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097098) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Extremely simplistic.

Was brought in when Taylor was already here. Blindsighted by clearly (as were we all). Best coach we've ever had now.

Intentions were right with the Robbie debacle and it was early in his tenure.

Had a massive cap issue to repair for most of his tenure so missing finals is almost a given.

If you reward CEOs who take short term over long term, like we always have, we'll never get out of our hole.

Ignoring everything else, the salary cap fine should have been the end of him.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097099) said:
@hammertime said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097098) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Extremely simplistic.

Was brought in when Taylor was already here. Blindsighted by clearly (as were we all). Best coach we've ever had now.

Intentions were right with the Robbie debacle and it was early in his tenure.

Had a massive cap issue to repair for most of his tenure so missing finals is almost a given.

If you reward CEOs who take short term over long term, like we always have, we'll never get out of our hole.

Ignoring everything else, the salary cap fine should have been the end of him.

Wonder what workplace that you operate in where you are sacked on your first mistake and all the good you've done, which no other one has done before in your role, is ignored.
 
@hammertime said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097102) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097099) said:
@hammertime said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097098) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Extremely simplistic.

Was brought in when Taylor was already here. Blindsighted by clearly (as were we all). Best coach we've ever had now.

Intentions were right with the Robbie debacle and it was early in his tenure.

Had a massive cap issue to repair for most of his tenure so missing finals is almost a given.

If you reward CEOs who take short term over long term, like we always have, we'll never get out of our hole.

Ignoring everything else, the salary cap fine should have been the end of him.

Wonder what workplace that you operate in where you are sacked on your first mistake and all the good you've done, which no other one has done before in your role, is ignored.

I think most workplaces would fire someone for copping a 700k fine for not understanding their job
 
Lol it just never stops its not even constructive or new its the same stuff rehashed give it a rest. We get it you don't like pascoe, every supporter knows we have to many home grounds but this decision was made to put us in a better place financially. Now we need to see out those contracts before we can revisit it.
 
@Moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097095) said:
Had to skim because there's so much off topic garbage, has there been anything RE signings in the last 5-10 pages? Seriously...

Nope, but we're getting a gym.
 
@hammertime said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097098) said:
Best coach we’ve ever had now.

I think the coach we had that won 3 premierships including one for us, only coach to get us to play finals football and was the guy that brought through our best crop of juniors ever has the right to be considered our best coach over someone who has a worse resume and has not even led us to finals football!
 
@Glenn5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097059) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097055) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097054) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097044) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097038) said:
@Glenn5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097037) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097036) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097028) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097022) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1096991) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1096989) said:
Much like Scott Morrison... people always seem to find someone to point fingers at.....

Justin Pascoe is the Scott Morrison of the NRL. Out of touch, out of his depth and goes to Hawaii when he should be working.

I didn't know Justin went to Hawaii????

Maybe not Hawaii , but he was on holidays when Addo Carr jumped ship ..

We still have 17 home grounds

He cost us $670k from our salary cap

He hired Cleary

He’s a piss poor CEO



@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097028) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097022) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1096991) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1096989) said:
Much like Scott Morrison... people always seem to find someone to point fingers at.....

Justin Pascoe is the Scott Morrison of the NRL. Out of touch, out of his depth and goes to Hawaii when he should be working.

I didn't know Justin went to Hawaii????

Maybe not Hawaii , but he was on holidays when Addo Carr jumped ship ..

We still have 17 home grounds

He cost us $670k from our salary cap

He hired Cleary

He’s a piss poor CEO

I don’t remember anyone complaining when he signed Cleary. I’ve been on this forum for a decade and never seen the forum collectively fawn over anyone the way it did over Ivan. The forum was on the bus and loved it. No one saw what he did coming, and to think Pascoe should have is ridiculous. The rest i’ll grant you, but the Cleary thing is rubbish.


Agreed and even if Cleary was a poor decision inhindsight, at least it meant getting rid of Taylor.

My goodness the Taylor days were very dark times indeed.

Any better since? We’ve never recovered since losing Tedesco.

Not really, Madge is a better coach but his ability to attract talent is on par with JT.

Agree, but it shows the problems ran much deeper than Taylor, which at the time no one wanted to believe.


What do you deem to be the deep seated problems deeper than Taylor? Board (totally changed), fitness staff(totally changed), coaching staff (totally changed), finances (totally changed), Salary cap management (totally different)?

Salary cap situation was atrocious and hamstrung that period horribly. On top of that, the new CEO undermined the coach as his first action.
 
Someone mentioned it. Pascoe’s strength is finance, and if he was judged on what he has brought on for west’s tigers in that area alone it would be commendable and that even including the loss of cap for Robbie deal. In saying that though this is where we haven’t quite got our house in order. Giving full autonomy to one person in order to conduct and provide deals is where we came un stuck. we need a team making those decisions and signing off on those deals. But I’m sure we have learnt from that. So not to rehash the past any further.
In present I believe Pascoe is a wiz behind the scenes for us but as a face of the Tigers this is the part that I don’t agree with. He never tries to look presentable. He either tries to be a joke when he needs to be serious or if he is being serious he communicates to the fan base in this arrogant corporate speak where he doesn’t answer the concerns head on he gives political looping answers
For mine he’d be a perfect CFO but hasn’t got the right character to be a CEO.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Lol ? the Farah thing is his only mis step . And really it ,considering what’s happened st Souths the last year , the misstep was declaring it before it happened .
The rest is garbage , and manipulating the facts to suit your agenda .
I feel sorry for you. The amount of energy you throw into perpetuating an oust Doust type situation , when blind Freddy can see how much good has been done on Pascoes watch , is sad.
Can I ask, do you actually believe this stuff ? Or is it you want to be zigging when everyone is zagging ?
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla


Well said. You have to question peoples agendas on this one.
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097119) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097089) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097086) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097064) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097061) said:
I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn't comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don't have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.


Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player .... YOU SUCK PASCOE ... bla bla

3rd coach in 4 years
700k fine for incompetence
Never made finals

Lol ? the Farah thing is his only mis step . And really it ,considering what’s happened st Souths the last year , the misstep was declaring it before it happened .
The rest is garbage , and manipulating the facts to suit your agenda .
I feel sorry for you. The amount of energy you throw into perpetuating an oust Doust type situation , when blind Freddy can see how much good has been done on Pascoes watch , is sad.
Can I ask, do you actually believe this stuff ? Or is it you want to be zigging when everyone is zagging ?

How can one manipulate a fact? It’s a fact or it isn’t.

Did he cop a fine which we’re still struggling with? Yep.

Did he say he’d only release Matterson if we got a favourable outcome? Yep.

Has he been through 3 coaches in 4 years? Yep

Has he ever taken us to the finals? Nope.

They’re the facts. But we’re getting a gym at least!

Also, still waiting for you to reply to my post from yesterday. Can you please point me to the post where the_pom mentioned Moylan? Or was it just made up rubbish to suit your agenda..
 
I know this has been said before but I think the strategy of building from the bottom, in other words sign a swathe of promising juniors from around the league and develop them patiently is really the way to go for the Tigers. As many have said, we just don’t have the drawing power of other clubs to snare the marque players, actually we plain haven’t earned any type of drawing power. Nearly all of our star players have come from within, Benji being the classic example. Maybe when we have begun to assemble a talented squad, established a stable coaching and management team we will begin to be attractive to the elite players, who should be signed based on need or an attempt to provide the icing on the cake. By developing players from the junior ranks there is a much better chance of establishing team harmony and avoiding attitudes of entitlement and selfishness. It’s a proven recipe. Look at the Storm.
 
@stevied said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097125) said:
I know this has been said before but I think the strategy of building from the bottom, in other words sign a swathe of promising juniors from around the league and develop them patiently is really the way to go for the Tigers. As many have said, we just don’t have the drawing power of other clubs to snare the marque players, actually we plain haven’t earned any type of drawing power. Nearly all of our star players have come from within, Benji being the classic example. Maybe when we have begun to assemble a talented squad, established a stable coaching and management team we will begin to be attractive to the elite players, who should be signed based on need or an attempt to provide the icing on the cake. By developing players from the junior ranks there is a much better chance of establishing team harmony and avoiding attitudes of entitlement and selfishness. It’s a proven recipe. Look at the Storm.


Thats exactly what is happening. We are building from the ground up. Its refreshing and why i refuse to entertain the sky is falling brigade.

Interesting side note is what Maguire comes back from England with. Canberra had the same problem attracting top line talent. They worked out a way around it. Smart operators usually do. Others sign players like Rankin and Packer.
 

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