Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[TheDaBoss]

Any rumours on a marquee player for the nines?

JAC for 2 days only

:smirk:

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Yep don't have any idea why they managed to land those guys, but we've been unable to.

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre?

when did I say anything about talent? I think AD is highly talented. Perhaps not as established, but definitely talented.

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

He'd be a walk up starter as fullback in our team now, and that's from only playing around 10 games last season. It shows he has talent and with the right coaching and a good forward pack, he could be excellent. His background is as a 6 so it would make sense for him to play there in the future.

Tell me the last time we bought a current representative player? And not the cook islands or samoa.

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push him to come here should tell you enough

You are so badly misinformed there. Souths fans are fuming Doueihi is even considering leaving. They rate him massively.

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money


Taking the value approach when you have a million dollars in cap space and you're 8 weeks out from round 1 doesn't make any sense, you'll be left sitting in the corner with a stack of cash while all the other clubs do what it takes to strengthen their team. We need to spend the money we have on players that improve our team and not be continuously haunted by the actions of Cleary in the past - he signed older players in their twilight on huge salaries. Doueihi is in a completely different category. He's young with heaps of talent and unlimited upside.

We need to improve our performances on the field NOW. We need to make the finals this year.


- The Knights signed those players due to them waiting and being patient while having the cap space when no one else did...... including us

- You said that polished players don’t wanna consider us, you’re basing that off Latrell declining us, when was the last time we’ve gone that hard for a player of his calibre?

- Let’s be honest any fullback would make our squad, no disrespect to Thompson but he shouldn’t be the standard we’re basing off especially with the money that we have available

- That’s what I’m trying to tell you, we haven’t bought one cause we continue trying to buy reject players such as Doueihi and not focus on trying to buy current representative players and be patient for when they become available

- I’m not misinformed as the club is literally shopping him around, regardless to what the fans are saying Souths are trying to find a team to pick him up - if he was that valuable and great wouldn’t they just keep him and play him as a utility off the bench?

- It’s a long term game, this isn’t a 1 year contract otherwise I’d be up for it, if we sign him we’re paying that money for several years and if he doesn’t perform are stuck with him, Doueihi has just come back from an ACL injury too.... can’t see how anyone is against us being patient especially when they’ve seen what this club has endured the last decade

Also:

Mbye was 24
Reynolds was 28
Packer was 28

These were still relatively young players when we signed them

You’re right and you’re wrong mate . Most of your arguments I agree with except the reject stuff. Cook bounced around at the Bulldogs and dragons before landing at the bunnies and being the best number 9 in the game. Same for CNK . Taupau was told he was surplus at the Dogs. The biggest one I can remember is Matt King . And he ended up a legend .
My point is 1 mans trash is another mans treasure . Most of these kids that play high rep teams at juniors fail , because the footy gods didn’t shine on them , whether that be fit , attitude, coaching , poor development , personality clashes and injury.
Even our beloved Hodgson was a half at wests . Good on Parra for moving him to the 1 , and the rest is history .

 

[hobbo1]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Also somehow finish behind Wests Tigers..go figure..

Poorly coached

 

[avocadoontoast]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Yep don't have any idea why they managed to land those guys, but we've been unable to.

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre?

when did I say anything about talent? I think AD is highly talented. Perhaps not as established, but definitely talented.

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

He'd be a walk up starter as fullback in our team now, and that's from only playing around 10 games last season. It shows he has talent and with the right coaching and a good forward pack, he could be excellent. His background is as a 6 so it would make sense for him to play there in the future.

Tell me the last time we bought a current representative player? And not the cook islands or samoa.

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push him to come here should tell you enough

You are so badly misinformed there. Souths fans are fuming Doueihi is even considering leaving. They rate him massively.

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money


Taking the value approach when you have a million dollars in cap space and you're 8 weeks out from round 1 doesn't make any sense, you'll be left sitting in the corner with a stack of cash while all the other clubs do what it takes to strengthen their team. We need to spend the money we have on players that improve our team and not be continuously haunted by the actions of Cleary in the past - he signed older players in their twilight on huge salaries. Doueihi is in a completely different category. He's young with heaps of talent and unlimited upside.

We need to improve our performances on the field NOW. We need to make the finals this year.


- The Knights signed those players due to them waiting and being patient while having the cap space when no one else did...... including us

- You said that polished players don’t wanna consider us, you’re basing that off Latrell declining us, when was the last time we’ve gone that hard for a player of his calibre?

- Let’s be honest any fullback would make our squad, no disrespect to Thompson but he shouldn’t be the standard we’re basing off especially with the money that we have available

- That’s what I’m trying to tell you, we haven’t bought one cause we continue trying to buy reject players such as Doueihi and not focus on trying to buy current representative players and be patient for when they become available

- I’m not misinformed as the club is literally shopping him around, regardless to what the fans are saying Souths are trying to find a team to pick him up - if he was that valuable and great wouldn’t they just keep him and play him as a utility off the bench?

- It’s a long term game, this isn’t a 1 year contract otherwise I’d be up for it, if we sign him we’re paying that money for several years and if he doesn’t perform are stuck with him, Doueihi has just come back from an ACL injury too.... can’t see how anyone is against us being patient especially when they’ve seen what this club has endured the last decade

Also:

Mbye was 24
Reynolds was 28
Packer was 28

These were still relatively young players when we signed them

Fair enough, appreciate your point of view even though i don't really agree with it. But anyway let's see what happens.

 

[avocadoontoast]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Also somehow finish behind Wests Tigers..go figure..

Poorly coached

Exactly right. That team was actually pretty good but Brown is a moron.

 

[teddy23]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Also somehow finish behind Wests Tigers..go figure..

Who looks better in the long term tho?

 

[teddy23]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Yep don't have any idea why they managed to land those guys, but we've been unable to.

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre?

when did I say anything about talent? I think AD is highly talented. Perhaps not as established, but definitely talented.

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

He'd be a walk up starter as fullback in our team now, and that's from only playing around 10 games last season. It shows he has talent and with the right coaching and a good forward pack, he could be excellent. His background is as a 6 so it would make sense for him to play there in the future.

Tell me the last time we bought a current representative player? And not the cook islands or samoa.

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push him to come here should tell you enough

You are so badly misinformed there. Souths fans are fuming Doueihi is even considering leaving. They rate him massively.

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money


Taking the value approach when you have a million dollars in cap space and you're 8 weeks out from round 1 doesn't make any sense, you'll be left sitting in the corner with a stack of cash while all the other clubs do what it takes to strengthen their team. We need to spend the money we have on players that improve our team and not be continuously haunted by the actions of Cleary in the past - he signed older players in their twilight on huge salaries. Doueihi is in a completely different category. He's young with heaps of talent and unlimited upside.

We need to improve our performances on the field NOW. We need to make the finals this year.


- The Knights signed those players due to them waiting and being patient while having the cap space when no one else did...... including us

- You said that polished players don’t wanna consider us, you’re basing that off Latrell declining us, when was the last time we’ve gone that hard for a player of his calibre?

- Let’s be honest any fullback would make our squad, no disrespect to Thompson but he shouldn’t be the standard we’re basing off especially with the money that we have available

- That’s what I’m trying to tell you, we haven’t bought one cause we continue trying to buy reject players such as Doueihi and not focus on trying to buy current representative players and be patient for when they become available

- I’m not misinformed as the club is literally shopping him around, regardless to what the fans are saying Souths are trying to find a team to pick him up - if he was that valuable and great wouldn’t they just keep him and play him as a utility off the bench?

- It’s a long term game, this isn’t a 1 year contract otherwise I’d be up for it, if we sign him we’re paying that money for several years and if he doesn’t perform are stuck with him, Doueihi has just come back from an ACL injury too.... can’t see how anyone is against us being patient especially when they’ve seen what this club has endured the last decade

Also:

Mbye was 24
Reynolds was 28
Packer was 28

These were still relatively young players when we signed them


You’re right and you’re wrong mate . Most of your arguments I agree with except the reject stuff. Cook bounced around at the Bulldogs and dragons before landing at the bunnies and being the best number 9 in the game. Same for CNK . Taupau was told he was surplus at the Dogs. The biggest one I can remember is Matt King . And he ended up a legend .
My point is 1 mans trash is another mans treasure . Most of these kids that play high rep teams at juniors fail , because the footy gods didn’t shine on them , whether that be fit , attitude, coaching , poor development , personality clashes and injury.
Even our beloved Hodgson was a half at wests . Good on Parra for moving him to the 1 , and the rest is history .

Respect your opinion, however with all those names mentioned they were never brought in with any pressure or were a lock to start

When Cook, Taupau, CNK were purchased they were min deals and weren’t expected to start but turned good - Doueihi is gonna start as our fullback and apparently worth 1/2 mil already

 

[JD Tiger]

Understand where you’re coming from, however do we really wanna continue paying on potential or should we look to buy polished players who have proven they can perform consistently week in week out
Doueihi showed some promise for a few weeks, so now we offer him 500k?
Would prefer to wait for a specialist fullback to become available, we need to be patient in terms of spending this money just like the bulldogs seem to be doing
Also, you’re acting like there’s no downside when there really is it’s not like they’re coming on a 1 year deal, they will wanna come for about 3 years and we’re stuck with them if they don’t perform



We've tried buying polished players but haven't been successful in landing anyone. That comes later. For now we have to do the best we can with what money we have.

The salary cap in 2020 is $9.5m. That means that Doueihi, our starting fullback and future 5/8 when Benji retires, is taking up only 5% of the cap. I think his price tag reflects the fact that he only played 10 or so games last year. If he had played the whole season, his price tag might be significantly higher.

Also, let's remember we have offered Stefano near $300k per season and he's a forward who has NEVER played an NRL game. $500k for a 21 year old spine player is not a lot to spend. We need to stop thinking about value for money all the time and focus purely on quality and talent. It's the only way we are ever going to have on field success.

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre? We are so use to being interested in buying players who show potential and get forced out by their current club that we only continue to be dealing with this same predicament of taking years to finally clear the space then repeating the same mistake when we have the money once again

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push Doueihi to come here should tell you enough

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money

Knights also paid massive dollars for Klemmer at a time when Dogs couldn't match the price tag. They swooped on Pearce just after Cronk joined Roosters, so timing was just right on that one.

And Ponga, they nabbed him from a Qld club (the Cows) as a junior about to hit Firsts, buying him a year ahead like we have with Stefano.

So good fortune and good management with those three.

Sounds like Douehi is good timing now for us... hoping so.

 

[TillLindemann]

Didn't one of our 'insiders' claim Alex J had until today to sign a contract with us.

Was that more fake news?

 

[WT2K]

Didn't one of our 'insiders' claim Alex J had until today to sign a contract with us.

Was that more fake news?

Was from one of the Souths forum's but posted on here

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Yep don't have any idea why they managed to land those guys, but we've been unable to.

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre?

when did I say anything about talent? I think AD is highly talented. Perhaps not as established, but definitely talented.

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

He'd be a walk up starter as fullback in our team now, and that's from only playing around 10 games last season. It shows he has talent and with the right coaching and a good forward pack, he could be excellent. His background is as a 6 so it would make sense for him to play there in the future.

Tell me the last time we bought a current representative player? And not the cook islands or samoa.

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push him to come here should tell you enough

You are so badly misinformed there. Souths fans are fuming Doueihi is even considering leaving. They rate him massively.

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money


Taking the value approach when you have a million dollars in cap space and you're 8 weeks out from round 1 doesn't make any sense, you'll be left sitting in the corner with a stack of cash while all the other clubs do what it takes to strengthen their team. We need to spend the money we have on players that improve our team and not be continuously haunted by the actions of Cleary in the past - he signed older players in their twilight on huge salaries. Doueihi is in a completely different category. He's young with heaps of talent and unlimited upside.

We need to improve our performances on the field NOW. We need to make the finals this year.


- The Knights signed those players due to them waiting and being patient while having the cap space when no one else did...... including us

- You said that polished players don’t wanna consider us, you’re basing that off Latrell declining us, when was the last time we’ve gone that hard for a player of his calibre?

- Let’s be honest any fullback would make our squad, no disrespect to Thompson but he shouldn’t be the standard we’re basing off especially with the money that we have available

- That’s what I’m trying to tell you, we haven’t bought one cause we continue trying to buy reject players such as Doueihi and not focus on trying to buy current representative players and be patient for when they become available

- I’m not misinformed as the club is literally shopping him around, regardless to what the fans are saying Souths are trying to find a team to pick him up - if he was that valuable and great wouldn’t they just keep him and play him as a utility off the bench?

- It’s a long term game, this isn’t a 1 year contract otherwise I’d be up for it, if we sign him we’re paying that money for several years and if he doesn’t perform are stuck with him, Doueihi has just come back from an ACL injury too.... can’t see how anyone is against us being patient especially when they’ve seen what this club has endured the last decade

Also:

Mbye was 24
Reynolds was 28
Packer was 28

These were still relatively young players when we signed them


You’re right and you’re wrong mate . Most of your arguments I agree with except the reject stuff. Cook bounced around at the Bulldogs and dragons before landing at the bunnies and being the best number 9 in the game. Same for CNK . Taupau was told he was surplus at the Dogs. The biggest one I can remember is Matt King . And he ended up a legend .
My point is 1 mans trash is another mans treasure . Most of these kids that play high rep teams at juniors fail , because the footy gods didn’t shine on them , whether that be fit , attitude, coaching , poor development , personality clashes and injury.
Even our beloved Hodgson was a half at wests . Good on Parra for moving him to the 1 , and the rest is history .

Respect your opinion, however with all those names mentioned they were never brought in with any pressure or were a lock to start

When Cook, Taupau, CNK were purchased they were min deals and weren’t expected to start but turned good - Doueihi is gonna start as our fullback and apparently worth 1/2 mil already

That’s true . What about Craig Wing though . He would have been in the position as Douehi is now when he left Souths the first time . I get your point though . I personally have played for coaches who thought I went alright and others who had me riding the pine . This validation lead to increase in performance for me too . And decrease when I felt unwanted.
That would be 10 fold at NRL level IMO , when you’re talking about the elites at whatever age group they came up in mixing together .

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Yep don't have any idea why they managed to land those guys, but we've been unable to.

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre?

when did I say anything about talent? I think AD is highly talented. Perhaps not as established, but definitely talented.

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

He'd be a walk up starter as fullback in our team now, and that's from only playing around 10 games last season. It shows he has talent and with the right coaching and a good forward pack, he could be excellent. His background is as a 6 so it would make sense for him to play there in the future.

Tell me the last time we bought a current representative player? And not the cook islands or samoa.

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push him to come here should tell you enough

You are so badly misinformed there. Souths fans are fuming Doueihi is even considering leaving. They rate him massively.

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money


Taking the value approach when you have a million dollars in cap space and you're 8 weeks out from round 1 doesn't make any sense, you'll be left sitting in the corner with a stack of cash while all the other clubs do what it takes to strengthen their team. We need to spend the money we have on players that improve our team and not be continuously haunted by the actions of Cleary in the past - he signed older players in their twilight on huge salaries. Doueihi is in a completely different category. He's young with heaps of talent and unlimited upside.

We need to improve our performances on the field NOW. We need to make the finals this year.


- The Knights signed those players due to them waiting and being patient while having the cap space when no one else did...... including us

- You said that polished players don’t wanna consider us, you’re basing that off Latrell declining us, when was the last time we’ve gone that hard for a player of his calibre?

- Let’s be honest any fullback would make our squad, no disrespect to Thompson but he shouldn’t be the standard we’re basing off especially with the money that we have available

- That’s what I’m trying to tell you, we haven’t bought one cause we continue trying to buy reject players such as Doueihi and not focus on trying to buy current representative players and be patient for when they become available

- I’m not misinformed as the club is literally shopping him around, regardless to what the fans are saying Souths are trying to find a team to pick him up - if he was that valuable and great wouldn’t they just keep him and play him as a utility off the bench?

- It’s a long term game, this isn’t a 1 year contract otherwise I’d be up for it, if we sign him we’re paying that money for several years and if he doesn’t perform are stuck with him, Doueihi has just come back from an ACL injury too.... can’t see how anyone is against us being patient especially when they’ve seen what this club has endured the last decade

Also:

Mbye was 24
Reynolds was 28
Packer was 28

These were still relatively young players when we signed them


You’re right and you’re wrong mate . Most of your arguments I agree with except the reject stuff. Cook bounced around at the Bulldogs and dragons before landing at the bunnies and being the best number 9 in the game. Same for CNK . Taupau was told he was surplus at the Dogs. The biggest one I can remember is Matt King . And he ended up a legend .
My point is 1 mans trash is another mans treasure . Most of these kids that play high rep teams at juniors fail , because the footy gods didn’t shine on them , whether that be fit , attitude, coaching , poor development , personality clashes and injury.

**> Even our beloved Hodgson was a half at wests . Good on Parra for moving him to the 1 , and the rest is history .**

Not really correct

Hodgo debuted off the bench in 97 then played wing for the rest of 97 as Andrew Leeds was Wests fullback at the time, he filled in at fullback when Leeds was unavailable and switched to halfback for just 8 games during the second half of the 98 season before going back to the wing for the remainder of 98 and the first few rounds of 99.

He switched to fullback from round 4 1999 after the retirement of Andrew Leeds and played the entire season at fullback except for the round 12 clash against Penrith when he played halfback.

 

[bbobb]

Understand where you’re coming from, however do we really wanna continue paying on potential or should we look to buy polished players who have proven they can perform consistently week in week out
Doueihi showed some promise for a few weeks, so now we offer him 500k?
Would prefer to wait for a specialist fullback to become available, we need to be patient in terms of spending this money just like the bulldogs seem to be doing
Also, you’re acting like there’s no downside when there really is it’s not like they’re coming on a 1 year deal, they will wanna come for about 3 years and we’re stuck with them if they don’t perform



We've tried buying polished players but haven't been successful in landing anyone. That comes later. For now we have to do the best we can with what money we have.

The salary cap in 2020 is $9.5m. That means that Doueihi, our starting fullback and future 5/8 when Benji retires, is taking up only 5% of the cap. I think his price tag reflects the fact that he only played 10 or so games last year. If he had played the whole season, his price tag might be significantly higher.

Also, let's remember we have offered Stefano near $300k per season and he's a forward who has NEVER played an NRL game. $500k for a 21 year old spine player is not a lot to spend. We need to stop thinking about value for money all the time and focus purely on quality and talent. It's the only way we are ever going to have on field success.

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre? We are so use to being interested in buying players who show potential and get forced out by their current club that we only continue to be dealing with this same predicament of taking years to finally clear the space then repeating the same mistake when we have the money once again

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push Doueihi to come here should tell you enough

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money

Knights also paid massive dollars for Klemmer at a time when Dogs couldn't match the price tag. They swooped on Pearce just after Cronk joined Roosters, so timing was just right on that one.

And Ponga, they nabbed him from a Qld club (the Cows) as a junior about to hit Firsts, buying him a year ahead like we have with Stefano.

So good fortune and good management with those three.

Sounds like Douehi is good timing now for us... hoping so.

Doueihi was also coming off an ACL last year. I think it takes most players 12 months to get their full confidence back. I see plenty of upside in his signature.

 

[Geo]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Also somehow finish behind Wests Tigers..go figure..

Poorly coached

So your saying we're a chance with our great coach..

 

[OzLuke]

This guy would be a great signing. Young and talented and plays a specialist position....

apart from another acl tear there is too much upside for us to not have a go at him.

 

[hobbo1]

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

Also somehow finish behind Wests Tigers..go figure..

Poorly coached

So your saying we're a chance with our great coach..

Undefeated all season

 

[Snake]

I for one applaud Pascoe for not wanting to pay the full price for Doueihi and approaching this carefully unlike when in the Ivan era when we threw big money at the first available players such as Packer, Reynolds and Mbye

Being patient and waiting for the right player will only benefit us for the long term and not put us in the same position in a few years

I agree with this ..No signing for the sake of signing , with a large portion of the playing roster coming off contract this season I believe this is the defining moment in the last decade .
There are many spaces available and plenty of money in the bank ! if wise heads prevail I truely believe there will be a premiership within the next 4 seasons . I do not get sucked into the paying overs to come , you get the right players at the right time they will sign ..

 

[OzLuke]

I for one applaud Pascoe for not wanting to pay the full price for Doueihi and approaching this carefully unlike when in the Ivan era when we threw big money at the first available players such as Packer, Reynolds and Mbye

Being patient and waiting for the right player will only benefit us for the long term and not put us in the same position in a few years

I agree with this ..No signing for the sake of signing , with a large portion of the playing roster coming off contract this season I believe this is the defining moment in the last decade .
There are many spaces available and plenty of money in the bank ! if wise heads prevail I truely believe there will be a premiership within the next 4 seasons . I do not get sucked into the paying overs to come , you get the right players at the right time they will sign ..

It's also a chance for us to get the kid back, and make him a vital part of our squad for a long time. Tell him the fb spot is his to lose and let him know that he is important to our club

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Not against Douehi but not at full freight, the Bunnies backended the contract and it's a bit like letting them off the hook.

With Arrow arriving in 21, looking at what they have off contract next year and their current forward strength they appear to be getting themselves into a bit of a mess cap wise and then it appears they are not willing to pay any freight, a bit arrogant for a club that may be in a salary cap mess come 2021 if they don't offload some baggage.

But that's always been Wayne's way, never had trouble off loading or getting a player to retire to fit in any new big buy he wanted at the Donkeys, but will it work at the Bunnies.

 

[Snake]

Understand where you’re coming from, however do we really wanna continue paying on potential or should we look to buy polished players who have proven they can perform consistently week in week out
Doueihi showed some promise for a few weeks, so now we offer him 500k?
Would prefer to wait for a specialist fullback to become available, we need to be patient in terms of spending this money just like the bulldogs seem to be doing
Also, you’re acting like there’s no downside when there really is it’s not like they’re coming on a 1 year deal, they will wanna come for about 3 years and we’re stuck with them if they don’t perform



We've tried buying polished players but haven't been successful in landing anyone. That comes later. For now we have to do the best we can with what money we have.

The salary cap in 2020 is $9.5m. That means that Doueihi, our starting fullback and future 5/8 when Benji retires, is taking up only 5% of the cap. I think his price tag reflects the fact that he only played 10 or so games last year. If he had played the whole season, his price tag might be significantly higher.

Also, let's remember we have offered Stefano near $300k per season and he's a forward who has NEVER played an NRL game. $500k for a 21 year old spine player is not a lot to spend. We need to stop thinking about value for money all the time and focus purely on quality and talent. It's the only way we are ever going to have on field success.

So the Knights can have one of the worst seasons in the history of the NRL, but somehow manage to sign Ponga, Pearce and Klemmer

We miss out on signing Latrell and now it means stop going for talented players bc they’ll never consider us, when was the last time we’ve been linked to a player of his calibre? We are so use to being interested in buying players who show potential and get forced out by their current club that we only continue to be dealing with this same predicament of taking years to finally clear the space then repeating the same mistake when we have the money once again

Who says he’s going to be our 6 in 2021? He hasn’t proven he can consistently perform on the NRL stage for a season and we’re already penciling him to be the successor to Benji, when we have the money to go out and buy quality representitive players instead?

Stefano and Doueihi are different situations, Stefano is being signed on less than an NRL average contract and basing off how Parra have reacted to him coming here and how Souths are basically trying to push Doueihi to come here should tell you enough

When you say we should stop worrying about value, I’m sorry but that’s just ridiculous it should be our number 1 priority as I refuse as a fan to be sitting here in a few years with this same problem bc we didn’t want to be patient and pay players who have shown they’re worth the money

Knights also paid massive dollars for Klemmer at a time when Dogs couldn't match the price tag. They swooped on Pearce just after Cronk joined Roosters, so timing was just right on that one.

And Ponga, they nabbed him from a Qld club (the Cows) as a junior about to hit Firsts, buying him a year ahead like we have with Stefano.

So good fortune and good management with those three.

Sounds like Douehi is good timing now for us... hoping so.

The mentioned players above were seasoned and proven ...Ponga is a huge talent not as tested as the others but really the Knights were on a winner with him from the start .
Douehi on the other hand LOOKS ok but really is he worth 500k a season is unproven at fullback can play 5/8 this is the position I am interested in him , do not know much about him but I would be looking at the 5/8 spot with him, I am sure there are others that know more about his 5/8 abilities .But that money is a lot for potential me thinks !