Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[fibrodreaming]

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards

Does he ? The stats CB posted for AD at fullback don't back that up.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


You're kidding right ? This isn't backs taking work away from forwards, it's the fact the first 3 tackles of each set are backs. The forwards are already working their nuts off , it gives them a chance to rest (usually walking back on side), whilst getting the set on the front foot. It's basically how the Sharks won Thier premiership. It's why the slimeys were significantly better last year with sivo and fergo. It's pretty essential in today's game .

Let's get backs that can finish over 100 metres and then worry about "dirty hit ups" later. We lack genuine pace. There is no getting around the fact the best teams have really fast outside backs and we don't.

 

[Dyloh]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


You're kidding right ? This isn't backs taking work away from forwards, it's the fact the first 3 tackles of each set are backs. The forwards are already working their nuts off , it gives them a chance to rest (usually walking back on side), whilst getting the set on the front foot. It's basically how the Sharks won Thier premiership. It's why the slimeys were significantly better last year with sivo and fergo. It's pretty essential in today's game .

Let's get backs that can finish over 100 metres and then worry about "dirty hit ups" later. We lack genuine pace. There is no getting around the fact the best teams have really fast outside backs and we don't.

I would say Nofa being the only back that did the dirty hit ups was a big reason we were camped in our 20 a lot of games last year.

 

[TonyTiger]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


You're kidding right ? This isn't backs taking work away from forwards, it's the fact the first 3 tackles of each set are backs. The forwards are already working their nuts off , it gives them a chance to rest (usually walking back on side), whilst getting the set on the front foot. It's basically how the Sharks won Thier premiership. It's why the slimeys were significantly better last year with sivo and fergo. It's pretty essential in today's game .

Let's get backs that can finish over 100 metres and then worry about "dirty hit ups" later. We lack genuine pace. There is no getting around the fact the best teams have really fast outside backs and we don't.

✅

 

[Fletch]

I can’t see Bennett spending Doueihi money on JAC when their backline is already stacked. Look at their winger stocks; Graham, Gagai, Johnston, why would they add JAC to that.

Bennett has always placed a great emphasis on his forwards, he wants money to bolster the forward pack, particularly big props.

 

[Snake]

So from what I’ve read tonight we’re considering upgrading a cc player to play fullback and Walters to play 9. 1 nrl game between them. I sure hope this is not true.

They have to start somewhere mate... everyone starts at zero

I actually applaud this decision if there is any truth to it ... I know it would be hard to drop one of the ELITE players in those positions but really I am over Plodderville in a big way !
If the coaching staff think these guys can handle it fantastic as this team needs some infusion of talent regardless of the level there coming from ... I prefer talent to down right experienced plodders that have failed on a regular basis !

 

[twentyforty]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


I agree
But the modern game almost requires your outside backs to get stuck in early in sets

I think all players should have off the mark speed with outside backs best over 100mts. Every team needs at least 1 JAC. imo.

 

[finnzo]

Imagine jac and bj as a centre wing pairing

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


You're kidding right ? This isn't backs taking work away from forwards, it's the fact the first 3 tackles of each set are backs. The forwards are already working their nuts off , it gives them a chance to rest (usually walking back on side), whilst getting the set on the front foot. It's basically how the Sharks won Thier premiership. It's why the slimeys were significantly better last year with sivo and fergo. It's pretty essential in today's game .

Let's get backs that can finish over 100 metres and then worry about "dirty hit ups" later. We lack genuine pace. There is no getting around the fact the best teams have really fast outside backs and we don't.

You’ve got it backwards . The odds of scoring 100m tries are next to nothing if you’re not getting over the advantage line . And starting off your set well is very important. How annoyed would you get last year when marsters used to get smashed on his back . Basically kills the whole set . They’re not “dirty” hitups , they’re apart of a backs responsibility now.

 

[Goldust]

Imagine jac and bj as a centre wing pairing

Wouldn’t know which one to mark
That would be lethal

 

[wokesmoke]

I wouldn't help Souths by taking AD. They will sign JAC with the money from who they move on.
We need to be patient.

If JAC isn’t signing with tigers then that would be gross mismanagement. And frankly. Just dumb. Tigers have been in contact with JAC about it but it’s going nowhere until his management issue is worked out. And that’s with any club. Not just tigers.

 

[twentyforty]

Wests Tigers's pre-season campaign has received a shot in the arm with a trio of key forwards back in full training.


I know it’s off topic slightly but we need some good news on this thread. Lol
Alex Twal (groin), Matt Eisenhuth (groin) and Josh Aloiai (hand) have made successful comebacks from their injuries.

The likes of Elijah Taylor (knee), Michael Chee Kam (shoulder) and David Nofoaluma (shoulder) are also back in full team training after minor injuries or surgeries during the off-season break.

 

[OzLuke]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards

So you'd rather not have him? As it stands we are a good chance of getting him, and as a player who adds this you would be unhappy with his signing?

 

[finnzo]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards


You're kidding right ? This isn't backs taking work away from forwards, it's the fact the first 3 tackles of each set are backs. The forwards are already working their nuts off , it gives them a chance to rest (usually walking back on side), whilst getting the set on the front foot. It's basically how the Sharks won Thier premiership. It's why the slimeys were significantly better last year with sivo and fergo. It's pretty essential in today's game .

Let's get backs that can finish over 100 metres and then worry about "dirty hit ups" later. We lack genuine pace. There is no getting around the fact the best teams have really fast outside backs and we don't.


You’ve got it backwards . The odds of scoring 100m tries are next to nothing if you’re not getting over the advantage line . And starting off your set well is very important. How annoyed would you get last year when marsters used to get smashed on his back . Basically kills the whole set . They’re not “dirty” hitups , they’re apart of a backs responsibility now.

It’s 1 of the wingers main jobs in the modern game. The first 2 hit ups of th first set is a back 90% of the time If they get put on there back and get a slow play the ball it stuffes the hole set up it gives the defensive line time to get set and slowes the next tackle down and so on till you get to last and you have to kick out of your own 40 on the back foot under pressure
But if the backs get the set of to a rolling start the forwards can make 10-15 metres on there runs and before you know it your Kicking from over the half way mark and getting an attacking kick in and jamming them down in the corner

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Moses mbye will be playing 9 i’ve heard it out of farahs mouth .. paul siro also said joey leiula is a done deal. Don’t believe me watch rd 1


Yep....and AD is off the WT radar, unless he compromises

As he should be. Read he doesn't want to leave Sydney, that's all well and good, but if you want it bad enough ( to stay) than you would take the pay cut. Souths mistake should not become Wests Tigers mistake.


He wouldn’t be getting a pay cut though would he?
Not for the next 2 years as he has a contract with Souths. The stumbling block in signing for us, as I understand it, is Souths refusing to chip in any money and we won’t consider any deal without them putting in.

This is the problem with back ended deals. Souths now want to move him on but he isn’t worth what they are paying because they short changed him at the start. Now his salary is inflated so they want to move him on. Exactly like when we tried to move Farah.

If I were a player I’d be very hesitant about signing a back ended contract, and if I were a manger, I’d be advising my clients not to sign them.

The NRL could solve the problem by forcing clubs to pay out the average over the contract term. So if it’s a 400k per year deal average for Doueihi, Souths would have to chip in any money above that 400k for the remaining term. It is really money that they owe him from the early years of the contract.

No way that’s a terrible idea , a club SHOULD NOT have to pay a player to play for another club unless by mutual agreement which basically means that the club is desperately trying to move the player on and they are willing to pay for that Privledge . how would you feel I’d WT had to pay for next couple of years, matto to Play for Parra

In this case Matto would need to sign a waver for his release
And don't forget that it was Matto that wanted to leave so he would have to wear the loss or he stays
With Doueihi he is being told he can look elsewhere
If he finds a club (Tigers) that wish to sign him we make our offer $350,000 or less by the look of it
If south's don't want to make up the difference then Doueihi can stay at South's
That will put pressure on their cap
They can't make an offer to Addo-carr

Madge is smart
We had $1,300,000 to sign 3 players
$500,000 for BJ
$300,000 max for Doueihi a guess
That leaves $500,000 for Addo-carr
Now if Doueihi is on $500,000 at South's this season and we pay full freight then south's could out bid us for Addo-car
But if we force souths hand to contribute $200,000 of his contract then we can outbid Souths for Addo-carr

Souths would have Approx $300,000
Tigers would have Approx $500,000
Simple maths
$500,000 would be much more beneficial for Addo-carrs family and would give the Tigers the upper hand

In steps Crow and Packer
Dam we thought we had him


What happens if Eels decide to release Stef from his 2020 contract?
Let’s face it, for the last 10 years we suck at cap management, paying big for under performers and lowballing our good young talent, making them too easily moved on.
I’ve got a good feeling we’re now turning things around. We just need 2 backs with speed and try scoring power, and Stef.


If these whispers about BJ are true
He definitely possesses Try scoring ability decent acceleration for a big lad but top speed not so much

What he does provide is both an x factor and good hit ups to take a bit of heat off the forwards....top speed or not he changes the way other teams see our backs....with him and Nof we can get two good hit ups off kicks ....

How about some finishing ie top fast speed over long distances? That is what we need from our backs, not backs doing work that belongs to the forwards

So you'd rather not have him? As it stands we are a good chance of getting him, and as a player who adds this you would be unhappy with his signing?

JL has to come in a package with JAC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1ZhHts8MI

 

[twentyforty]

With respect, perhaps our need is not necessarily increased speed out wide as it is “go forward.”
Nothing saps energy like having your line continually bent and your forwards back peddling. Sheens got the 2005 champs going forward by rotating the dummy half roll.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

With respect, perhaps our need is not necessarily increased speed out wide as it is “go forward.”
Nothing saps energy like having your line continually bent and your forwards back peddling. Sheens got the 2005 champs going forward by rotating the dummy half roll.

^^^this ^^^ it’s the very reason forwards walk back on side . It’s absolutely brutal tackling 110kg units , who can run 4.5 second 40s . It’s not 92kg Wayne Pearce into “massive” 100 kg Siro anymore . It’s Payne Haas into Lodge into Fifita . And you’re expected not to miss any tackles , and wrestle them to their back , and hold them Down .like I said , tiring stuff

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Wouldn’t know which one to mark

Especially as JAC is a Left Winger and BJ is a Right Centre!

 

[twentyforty]

One skill which hasn’t changed in the last 70 years is speed off the mark. When you talk to the old timers, some of whom are dead now. Blinding speed over 20mts is a prerequisite for all players. imo. It appears that size and athleticism have become more important than ball skills for some coaches?

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

When you talk to the old timers, some of whom are dead now.

Australia Day celebrations started early for you 2040?