Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165284) said:
Momo is pretty worthless, he can’t even make it into the Storm side with first and second stringers out, so this doesn’t apply to him. But can you imagine if we sent a player down there we rated highly, say Jake Simpkin. Imagine he was killing it week after week, and then whispers began that Bellamy was actively seeking to keep him there. I can’t even describe the meltdown. People would be threatening to burn down NRL headquarters, FTB would be probably hit breaking point and finally hire a hitman to take Bellamy out. It would be uglier than a Susan Boyle nude selfie.

HOW DARE YOU BELITTLE SUSAN haha
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165283) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165280) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165164) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

You really just don't seem to understand that there would be absolutely nothing unethical about us signing him. Everything totally above board. Aggressive yes, but not even in the slightest wrong, immoral unethical or whatever you want to imagine it.

The player is potentially off contract at the end of the season. He's playing for us, and if we can impress him and he wants to stay then that's awesome.

If he wants to go back to the storm and compete that's his choice too.

I understand it perfectly . He’s on a loan . He’s not our player . We should be trying to impress him , and make him feel important . We should have a plan in place IF, IF IF Cameron chooses to play on, and that clause is triggered.
We should not be actively trying to get him to renegotiate on his existing contract, manipulating behind the scenes , getting his manager to make stuff up about his mental health etc.
That is Skullduggery. And we should have a bit of class and self respect.

You made a great point when you mentioned how groundbreaking Grant playing for us is. The whole concept would be scrapped before it’s even gotten off the ground. The hypocracy with the Matterson and Stefano situations is off the chart. There were people on this forum baying for Parra’s blood because they wouldn’t release Stefano immediately to us, like it was some underhanded tactic. No, they were just holding him to his contract. And Matterson., they are encouraging our club to do exactly what they wanted Parra investigatesd for doing.

Situations are slightly different. Stefano was off contract after 2020 and free to negotiate and signed with another club for the seasons after his current contract expires. In most situations unless that player is a key in the current campaign. the club would let him go for the opportunity.

Matterson signed a 3 year deal and started whinging after one year. He was not free to negotiate with anyone, but instead whinged, whined and stopped coming to training until the club allowed him to negotiate elsewhere. I still believe we should have continually fined him for his non attendance at training and then kept him playing reserve grade.

I think the situations above go more to the morals of the individuals involved than the fans or clubs.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165283) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165280) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165164) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

You really just don't seem to understand that there would be absolutely nothing unethical about us signing him. Everything totally above board. Aggressive yes, but not even in the slightest wrong, immoral unethical or whatever you want to imagine it.

The player is potentially off contract at the end of the season. He's playing for us, and if we can impress him and he wants to stay then that's awesome.

If he wants to go back to the storm and compete that's his choice too.

I understand it perfectly . He’s on a loan . He’s not our player . We should be trying to impress him , and make him feel important . We should have a plan in place IF, IF IF Cameron chooses to play on, and that clause is triggered.
We should not be actively trying to get him to renegotiate on his existing contract, manipulating behind the scenes , getting his manager to make stuff up about his mental health etc.
That is Skullduggery. And we should have a bit of class and self respect.

You made a great point when you mentioned how groundbreaking Grant playing for us is. The whole concept would be scrapped before it’s even gotten off the ground. The hypocracy with the Matterson and Stefano situations is off the chart. There were people on this forum baying for Parra’s blood because they wouldn’t release Stefano immediately to us, like it was some underhanded tactic. No, they were just holding him to his contract. And Matterson., they are encouraging our club to do exactly what they wanted Parra investigatesd for doing.

That’s my whole point mate. The Parra Eels, Penrith Panthers of the world can do what they want. I look at MLB . I’m a Mariners fan and we had a GM who the whole league absolutely hated. He couldn’t make trades , because no one would deal with him . So there was no scratching of backs . He only made huge blockbuster deals that destroyed the franchise , because he was a moron. So I apply this logic to the NRL.
You can only act like a dog for so long until people say , well off you go the dog bowl is over there. Sure it’s a competitive market . But there has to be honour amongst thieves.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165284) said:
Momo is pretty worthless, he can’t even make it into the Storm side with first and second stringers out, so this doesn’t apply to him. But can you imagine if we sent a player down there we rated highly, say Jake Simpkin. Imagine he was killing it week after week, and then whispers began that Bellamy was actively seeking to keep him there. I can’t even describe the meltdown. People would be threatening to burn down NRL headquarters, FTB would be probably hit breaking point and finally hire a hitman to take Bellamy out. It would be uglier than a Susan Boyle nude selfie.

What's wrong with Susan
And how do you know what Susan looks like in a nude selfie
 
The whole Grant deal was for him to be prepared for next season nothing else .. Momo was just collateral to the cause and to make it happen !
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165281) said:
What about Herbie Farnsworth ?? That kid can play . And he’s off contract this year , and will be behind Katoni Staggs and Jesse Arthars amongst others at the broncos .

Wasn't Farnsworth he Broncos goal kicker on Thursday night? He looked competent.
 
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165317) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165281) said:
What about Herbie Farnsworth ?? That kid can play . And he’s off contract this year , and will be behind Katoni Staggs and Jesse Arthars amongst others at the broncos .

Wasn't Farnsworth he Broncos goal kicker on Thursday night? He looked competent.

He’s a 75% goal kicker
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165279) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165159) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165122) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165095) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

Don't lose the plot chief! Crikey.
If Grant chooses to leave Storm if Smith plays on next year... HE IS UP FOR GRABS BY ANY CLUB. Why can't you realise this?
I don't really see anyone here calling for Grant to break any contract.

Urgh ! That’s exactly what many of you said . And you were one of them .And I literally said what you’re saying now . My point is proven right here. Twist the narrative to suit whatever the agenda is at any given point . Like I said , NRL supporters do my head in

Yep, you're exactly the right amount of upset about this mate?

I’m not upset at all . It Just does my head in , how hypocritical NRL supporters are. There’s zero nuance and give and take on anything . “This is war” is a ridiculous outlook. And it is the number 1 reason NRL or RL hasn’t pushed into other states, brought in trades, expanded the international game , and so on and on. “It’s a tribal game “ is crap. It’s an excuse to be a self interested , short sighted moron . I’ve said this before , if we want grant we should have to pay for him a transfer fee , upon his loan expiry. It works overseas.

I'll tell you what - this is an open Forum.

To try and ridicule people and call them names, such as (“This is war” is a ridiculous outlook.) and ("to be a self interested , short sighted moron"), is not on.

Everybody does not have to agree with your opinion, whether you have said it before or not. You are going "over the top" in expecting everyone to share your opinion. I don't, but mine is just as valid as yours.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165328) said:
@Newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165317) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165281) said:
What about Herbie Farnsworth ?? That kid can play . And he’s off contract this year , and will be behind Katoni Staggs and Jesse Arthars amongst others at the broncos .

Wasn't Farnsworth he Broncos goal kicker on Thursday night? He looked competent.

He’s a 75% goal kicker

He's only 20 years old and he could be the goal kicking winger the club is looking for.
 
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165280) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165164) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

You really just don't seem to understand that there would be absolutely nothing unethical about us signing him. Everything totally above board. Aggressive yes, but not even in the slightest wrong, immoral unethical or whatever you want to imagine it.

The player is potentially off contract at the end of the season. He's playing for us, and if we can impress him and he wants to stay then that's awesome.

If he wants to go back to the storm and compete that's his choice too.

I understand it perfectly . He’s on a loan . He’s not our player . We should be trying to impress him , and make him feel important . We should have a plan in place IF, IF IF Cameron chooses to play on, and that clause is triggered.
We should not be actively trying to get him to renegotiate on his existing contract, manipulating behind the scenes , getting his manager to make stuff up about his mental health etc.
That is Skullduggery. And we should have a bit of class and self respect.

But I haven't seen a single person say anything along the lines of we should be getting him to renegotiate his contract behind the scenes, make up mental health crap. Absolutely no one has suggested that. You're getting a bee in your bonnet over something you yourself are making up!
He has a clause in his contract which means he may be off contract. If he does become eligible to annul his current contract then we should be all in on him.
In the meantime we should be trying to impress him with our view for the future, our coaching, the bond he is developing with our boys etc

How you could be upset about either of the latter two points is beyond me, though each to their own...
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165337) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165280) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165164) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

You really just don't seem to understand that there would be absolutely nothing unethical about us signing him. Everything totally above board. Aggressive yes, but not even in the slightest wrong, immoral unethical or whatever you want to imagine it.

The player is potentially off contract at the end of the season. He's playing for us, and if we can impress him and he wants to stay then that's awesome.

If he wants to go back to the storm and compete that's his choice too.

I understand it perfectly . He’s on a loan . He’s not our player . We should be trying to impress him , and make him feel important . We should have a plan in place IF, IF IF Cameron chooses to play on, and that clause is triggered.
We should not be actively trying to get him to renegotiate on his existing contract, manipulating behind the scenes , getting his manager to make stuff up about his mental health etc.
That is Skullduggery. And we should have a bit of class and self respect.

But I haven't seen a single person say anything along the lines of we should be getting him to renegotiate his contract behind the scenes, make up mental health crap. Absolutely no one has suggested that. You're getting a bee in your bonnet over something you yourself are making up!
He has a clause in his contract which means he may be off contract. If he does become eligible to annul his current contract then we should be all in on him.
In the meantime we should be trying to impress him with our view for the future, our coaching, the bond he is developing with our boys etc

How you could be upset about either of the latter two points is beyond me, though each to their own...

LOL you’re just in your echo chamber now . I already stated the exact same thing now like 6 times.Youre literally agreeing with me.
And They did say that that. It’s the whole reason I got involved in the first place. I saw the hypocrisy.
Go back and read the posts.
 
I don't know how the swap deal will end up,Im very impressed by Grant and I hope he could become our d/h for a long period of time..
I will also back Momo to the hilt in regard to him being one of our players and would like to have him back at some stage after the swap agreement,he isn't getting a run at Melb atm but he went there to do the right thing,I bet he is learning a heck of a lot about the Melb system and I hope he comes back full of knowledge and gets to play out a contract with us...he isn't as bad a player as some make out..
 
We sign someone who has a cool name

That king fella from warriors

Tex hoy
Bradmen best

Joseph Ratuvatucerivalu ( can't wait for him yo debut)
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165344) said:
We sign someone who has a cool name

That king fella from warriors

Tex hoy
Bradmen best

Joseph Ratuvatucerivalu ( can't wait for him yo debut)

Roberto Jenko
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165329) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165279) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165159) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165122) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165095) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

Don't lose the plot chief! Crikey.
If Grant chooses to leave Storm if Smith plays on next year... HE IS UP FOR GRABS BY ANY CLUB. Why can't you realise this?
I don't really see anyone here calling for Grant to break any contract.

Urgh ! That’s exactly what many of you said . And you were one of them .And I literally said what you’re saying now . My point is proven right here. Twist the narrative to suit whatever the agenda is at any given point . Like I said , NRL supporters do my head in

Yep, you're exactly the right amount of upset about this mate?

I’m not upset at all . It Just does my head in , how hypocritical NRL supporters are. There’s zero nuance and give and take on anything . “This is war” is a ridiculous outlook. And it is the number 1 reason NRL or RL hasn’t pushed into other states, brought in trades, expanded the international game , and so on and on. “It’s a tribal game “ is crap. It’s an excuse to be a self interested , short sighted moron . I’ve said this before , if we want grant we should have to pay for him a transfer fee , upon his loan expiry. It works overseas.

I'll tell you what - this is an open Forum.

To try and ridicule people and call them names, such as (“This is war” is a ridiculous outlook.) and ("to be a self interested , short sighted moron"), is not on.

Everybody does not have to agree with your opinion, whether you have said it before or not. You are going "over the top" in expecting everyone to share your opinion. I don't, but mine is just as valid as yours.

I don’t need you too , in fact , Gunner and I are the only ones on here not agreeing with you . and you don’t like it. That opinion is ridiculous , and I even stated why I think it’s ridiculous. It’s short sighted and a generic rugby league opinion . It’s nothing new. And it’s a frustrating thing to hear all the time , when the outrage on here in October last year was through the roof . If you don’t see the hypocrisy in your feelings and the things you say . Then that’s on you . Not me.
Just because the hive mind tigers forum decides we are the good guys at all times , doesn’t mean I have to agree with it . In fact I call Bull crap to this! And I’m pointing it out .
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165339) said:
I'm not sure if their contract status but I'd be targeting Burton, Crichton and Yeo from the Panthers

Add Daine LAURIE, Charlie STAINES & J'maine HOPGOOD
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165337) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165280) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165164) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165087) said:
@Nelson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165080) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165076) said:
@Geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165073) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165072) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165070) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165065) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164942) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164905) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1164893) said:
We let Matterson go and i am sure Parra are in the ear of Stefano and i expect a backflip to come so why cant we get in Grant's ear, Momo i dont worry so much as we have Tommy "second coming " Talau who everyone seems to rate so he should be able to tske Mmbye's spot if he has to.
We are naive if we dont think that talking to players to backflip doesnt happen... look at Teddy and the Raiders

I gotta say that attitude is poor. Justifying low character decisions because other low characters do it too. There’s a way to do it and a way not to . Enticing a player to backflip whilst you’re conducting a revolutionary loan deal , is definitely not the way. But hey , when it happens to us again I’m sure all you guys will scream bloody murder. The hypocrisy is real.

I'm sure when Grant goes back to Melbourne or another club grab him (because we didn't try to keep him) and he turns out to be a real superstar.

Everyone will be saying "Good on the Tigers, that had principals, haven't got a decent DH but they did what was right by the NRL."

Bad luck the NRL never do the right thing by the Tigers.

Wake up mate - this is war!

And that’s fine. But don’t have a whinge the next time we’re on the receiving end.

Why not.....everyone else does.

Cos it would make you a hypocrite?

And then what happens,,?
How can you be outraged about something when it happens to you but do the exact same behaviour?

Because we're human, we're self-interested and this is sport we're talking about. Take your logic elsewhere...

whatever ! You’re all a pack of whinging , entitled morons and I will make sure to call you that when it inevitably happens again. When you chose to act unethically in a closed environment of 15 other businesses ,who you’re all partners with in the growth of the game , how is that even sustainable . Especially when the introduction of loans and trades could be on the horizon. NRL fans do my head in at times

You really just don't seem to understand that there would be absolutely nothing unethical about us signing him. Everything totally above board. Aggressive yes, but not even in the slightest wrong, immoral unethical or whatever you want to imagine it.

The player is potentially off contract at the end of the season. He's playing for us, and if we can impress him and he wants to stay then that's awesome.

If he wants to go back to the storm and compete that's his choice too.

I understand it perfectly . He’s on a loan . He’s not our player . We should be trying to impress him , and make him feel important . We should have a plan in place IF, IF IF Cameron chooses to play on, and that clause is triggered.
We should not be actively trying to get him to renegotiate on his existing contract, manipulating behind the scenes , getting his manager to make stuff up about his mental health etc.
That is Skullduggery. And we should have a bit of class and self respect.

But I haven't seen a single person say anything along the lines of we should be getting him to renegotiate his contract behind the scenes, make up mental health crap. Absolutely no one has suggested that. You're getting a bee in your bonnet over something you yourself are making up!
He has a clause in his contract which means he may be off contract. If he does become eligible to annul his current contract then we should be all in on him.
In the meantime we should be trying to impress him with our view for the future, our coaching, the bond he is developing with our boys etc

How you could be upset about either of the latter two points is beyond me, though each to their own...

You’re doing my head in . The last 2 posts I SAID MYSELF !! Why would I disagree with something I said MYSELF ???? Unbelievable. The issue I had was with what was said like10 -12 pages ago. And I wasn’t on my own . Gunner saw it too. If you want to pretend it wasn’t said , to suit your agenda , whatever man.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1165339) said:
I'm not sure if their contract status but I'd be targeting Burton, Crichton and Yeo from the Panthers


Yep will never leave the Panthers.
Burton might be a chance with Cleary and Jerome Luai in the half’s.
 

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