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I found this portion of an article written by Steve Mascord (SMH) interesting in relation to the constant speculation in the media…
"In the short time he has been out of first grade coaching Ivan Cleary says "more speculation" is the biggest thing that has changed.
It's true.
For most of my career, the aim in a news story was to have a quote in the third paragraph. That has changed for two major reasons: one, you can't just get a player on the phone when you feel like it anymore.
And two, a story with a quote is easy to "lift" by a rival. On the other hand, if you hang an unsourced story on a byline or a reporter's name, the reader or viewer has to keep coming to your website, station or channel.
Commercially, it is actually in a media outlet's interests not to quote people or confirm rumours because they lose control of their content as soon as they do.
The personal relationships between the media professionals and coaches, players and officials have eroded to such an extent that a reporter is far more willing to call for a coach to be sacked or a player to be dropped than before. He's got nothing to lose, the coach or player doesn't talk to him anyway.
Wayne Bennett has seen the process first-hand.
The rugby league media is being taken over by rights holders and the governing body itself, which will run its own website from next year.
Mainstream media is losing resources, relevance and access while television reporters, retired players and current stars sit around in the rarefied air of TV studio green rooms, where the old paradigm is recreated with the help of healthy appearance fees."
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-two-really-crazy-things-about-rugby-league-in-australia-right-now-20170420-gvocgl.html
"In the short time he has been out of first grade coaching Ivan Cleary says "more speculation" is the biggest thing that has changed.
It's true.
For most of my career, the aim in a news story was to have a quote in the third paragraph. That has changed for two major reasons: one, you can't just get a player on the phone when you feel like it anymore.
And two, a story with a quote is easy to "lift" by a rival. On the other hand, if you hang an unsourced story on a byline or a reporter's name, the reader or viewer has to keep coming to your website, station or channel.
Commercially, it is actually in a media outlet's interests not to quote people or confirm rumours because they lose control of their content as soon as they do.
The personal relationships between the media professionals and coaches, players and officials have eroded to such an extent that a reporter is far more willing to call for a coach to be sacked or a player to be dropped than before. He's got nothing to lose, the coach or player doesn't talk to him anyway.
Wayne Bennett has seen the process first-hand.
The rugby league media is being taken over by rights holders and the governing body itself, which will run its own website from next year.
Mainstream media is losing resources, relevance and access while television reporters, retired players and current stars sit around in the rarefied air of TV studio green rooms, where the old paradigm is recreated with the help of healthy appearance fees."
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-two-really-crazy-things-about-rugby-league-in-australia-right-now-20170420-gvocgl.html
Roar_Power
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Matulino denies signing with Wests Tigers
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Thursday, 20 April 2017
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Warriors front-rower Ben Matulino could be making a move across the Tasman in 2018\. Photo / Photosport.
By David Skipwith
The Warriors deny that off-contract front-rower Ben Matulino has agreed to terms with Wests Tigers for next season and remain hopeful of keeping him in Auckland.
Matulino today told Warriors coach Stephen Kearney he had not signed with the joint venture club following reports he will head to Sydney after his contract expires at the end of the season.
The 28-year-old held talks with Wests Tigers and Newcastle Knights officials last weekend as he contemplates a move away from Auckland.
Warriors recruitment manager Tony Iro said the club had made Matulino an offer and were waiting for a decision on whether he would stay.
"We haven't heard that so that's all I can say on it," said Iro.
"He's told us he hasn't (signed with Wests Tigers) so that's all I can go off.
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"He told Mooks (Kearney) this morning (that he hasn't signed).
"We've made him an offer so that means we want him to stay but at the end of the day that will be his and his family's decision."
Matulino's manager Steve Gillis could not confirm the Tigers deal and said his client's future remained up in the air.
"He hasn't committed anywhere," said Gillis.
"I'm really not sure. It will sort itself out in the next few days.
@ said:
Not official but apparently knights never put an offer in and we're not going to under they got a report of his latest medical status, re the knees. A concern.
But in another report Matulino has told his teammates he has signed with us.
So I would say we are now at the final week of the COP.
I love wasting time so I just sat through the Warriors vs Tigers round one game last year and watched how both Matulino and Woods performed.
Woods racked up over 200 meters and I think 30 tackles but never once got a quick play the ball and in the defence department alot of floping.
Big Ben on the other hand, made only 150 and I think similar tackles but all of his tackles were either clean up work round the legs or big first contact hits. In the meters front every run was a quick play the ball.
In that game on our side the only forward that had similar impact was Jesse sue.
Fills me with alot of confidence after witnessing that.
avocadoontoast
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From the NZ Herald
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NRL: Warriors front-rower Ben Matulino denies signing with Wests Tigers
2:16 PM Thursday Apr 20, 2017
The Warriors deny that off-contract front-rower Ben Matulino has agreed to terms with Wests Tigers for next season and remain hopeful of keeping him in Auckland.
Matulino today told Warriors coach Stephen Kearney he had not signed with the joint venture club following reports he will head to Sydney after his contract expires at the end of the season.
The 28-year-old held talks with Wests Tigers and Newcastle Knights officials last weekend as he contemplates a move away from Auckland.
Warriors recruitment manager Tony Iro said the club had made Matulino an offer and were waiting for a decision on whether he would stay.
"We haven't heard that so that's all I can say on it," said Iro.
"He's told us he hasn't (signed with Wests Tigers) so that's all I can go off.
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"He told Mooks (Kearney) this morning (that he hasn't signed).
"We've made him an offer so that means we want him to stay but at the end of the day that will be his and his family's decision."
Matulino's manager Steve Gillis could not confirm the Tigers deal and said his client's future remained up in the air.
"He hasn't committed anywhere," said Gillis.
Continued below.
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"I'm really not sure. It will sort itself out in the next few days.
"It's a work in progress."
A move to Wests Tigers would see Matulino play under former Warriors and Panthers coach Ivan Cleary who coached the Kiwis international in Auckland between 2008 and 2011.
Matulino would be the first of 20 off-contract Warriors players to sign elsewhere and could be the first domino to fall amid a hectic NRL player transfer market.
Fellow Warriors front-rowers Jacob Lillyman, James Gavet and Charlie Gubb, and Albert Vete are also off-contract but re-signing halves pair Kieran Foran and Shaun Johnson has been the club's first priority.
If Matulino was to join Wests Tigers it would leave the club's current captain Aaron Woods' future under a cloud with the NSW Origin front-rower heavily linked to the Canterbury Bulldogs.
Woods is reported to be set to move to Belmore on a three-year deal reportedly worth A$1 million per season which in turn could have repercussions for Bulldogs captain and front-rower James Graham.
The speculation continues after Matulino was included in the Warriors initial 21-man squad for next week's Anzac Day clash against Melbourne in what would be his first appearance of the season.
The two-time Warriors Player of the Year (2012 and 2015) underwent knee operation in January before suffering another setback when he contracted an infection post-surgery.
The Wellington-born forward is on the verge of reaching the 200 game milestone having made 196 NRL appearances since making his Warriors debut midway through the 2008 season.
Warriors off-contract in 2017: Matthew Allwood, Blake Ayshford, Erin Clark, Kieran Foran, James Gavet, Charlie Gubb, Ato Hingano, Ryan Hoffman, Shaun Johnson, Jacob Lillyman, Mason Lino, Ben Matulino, Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Ofahiki Ogden, Nathaniel Roache, Ligi Sao, Patrick Sipley, Toafofoa Sipley, Bodene Thompson, Albert Vete.
- NZ Herald
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NRL: Warriors front-rower Ben Matulino denies signing with Wests Tigers
2:16 PM Thursday Apr 20, 2017
The Warriors deny that off-contract front-rower Ben Matulino has agreed to terms with Wests Tigers for next season and remain hopeful of keeping him in Auckland.
Matulino today told Warriors coach Stephen Kearney he had not signed with the joint venture club following reports he will head to Sydney after his contract expires at the end of the season.
The 28-year-old held talks with Wests Tigers and Newcastle Knights officials last weekend as he contemplates a move away from Auckland.
Warriors recruitment manager Tony Iro said the club had made Matulino an offer and were waiting for a decision on whether he would stay.
"We haven't heard that so that's all I can say on it," said Iro.
"He's told us he hasn't (signed with Wests Tigers) so that's all I can go off.
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"He told Mooks (Kearney) this morning (that he hasn't signed).
"We've made him an offer so that means we want him to stay but at the end of the day that will be his and his family's decision."
Matulino's manager Steve Gillis could not confirm the Tigers deal and said his client's future remained up in the air.
"He hasn't committed anywhere," said Gillis.
Continued below.
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Off-contract Warriors playmaker Kieran Foran runs to the line with halfback Shaun Johnson in support. Photo / Photosport.
NRL: Kieran Foran more important to Warriors than Shaun Johnson - Paul Kent
Message to Kieran Foran - pitch a tent and put an end to the circus. Photo / Photosport
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"I'm really not sure. It will sort itself out in the next few days.
"It's a work in progress."
A move to Wests Tigers would see Matulino play under former Warriors and Panthers coach Ivan Cleary who coached the Kiwis international in Auckland between 2008 and 2011.
Matulino would be the first of 20 off-contract Warriors players to sign elsewhere and could be the first domino to fall amid a hectic NRL player transfer market.
Fellow Warriors front-rowers Jacob Lillyman, James Gavet and Charlie Gubb, and Albert Vete are also off-contract but re-signing halves pair Kieran Foran and Shaun Johnson has been the club's first priority.
If Matulino was to join Wests Tigers it would leave the club's current captain Aaron Woods' future under a cloud with the NSW Origin front-rower heavily linked to the Canterbury Bulldogs.
Woods is reported to be set to move to Belmore on a three-year deal reportedly worth A$1 million per season which in turn could have repercussions for Bulldogs captain and front-rower James Graham.
The speculation continues after Matulino was included in the Warriors initial 21-man squad for next week's Anzac Day clash against Melbourne in what would be his first appearance of the season.
The two-time Warriors Player of the Year (2012 and 2015) underwent knee operation in January before suffering another setback when he contracted an infection post-surgery.
The Wellington-born forward is on the verge of reaching the 200 game milestone having made 196 NRL appearances since making his Warriors debut midway through the 2008 season.
Warriors off-contract in 2017: Matthew Allwood, Blake Ayshford, Erin Clark, Kieran Foran, James Gavet, Charlie Gubb, Ato Hingano, Ryan Hoffman, Shaun Johnson, Jacob Lillyman, Mason Lino, Ben Matulino, Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, Ofahiki Ogden, Nathaniel Roache, Ligi Sao, Patrick Sipley, Toafofoa Sipley, Bodene Thompson, Albert Vete.
- NZ Herald
smoking_gun
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Love how all managers play dumb.
smoking_gun
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The whole 10 day COP is the main contributor to all this as well, really draws out the process
vlad
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So the Warriors have 20 players off contract including both of their halves but they're not in crisis .
#MediaWitchHuntOfTheWTs
#MediaWitchHuntOfTheWTs
EndlessPassion
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^^ Better not let that goose Tunks on 2sm find out. He likes to think that the tigers are the only
Club that has players out of contract
Club that has players out of contract
smoking_gun
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I'm stunned there's no speculation around SJ. Even if he's not interested in leaving u would think to get his value up you would give the impression he was open to leaving
Beetle_Bailey
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Signing Suggestions :
Fullback & Outside Backs - Mead,Kato Ottio,Jorge Taufua,Mosby-Gela,Taane Milne,Johnny Tuivasa-Sheck,Aaron Gray & Bureta Faraimo.
Halves - Johnson,Widdop & Cronk.
Forwards - Ofahengaue,Adam Elliott,Mautilino,Asiata,Corey Jensen,Harawira-Naera & Tagatese.
Fullback & Outside Backs - Mead,Kato Ottio,Jorge Taufua,Mosby-Gela,Taane Milne,Johnny Tuivasa-Sheck,Aaron Gray & Bureta Faraimo.
Halves - Johnson,Widdop & Cronk.
Forwards - Ofahengaue,Adam Elliott,Mautilino,Asiata,Corey Jensen,Harawira-Naera & Tagatese.
There is a huge amount of off contract talent out there. This fellow would be useful for Wests Tigers
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
Born 2 August 1995 (age 21)Auckland, New Zealand
Height 182 cm (6 ft 0 in)
Weight 86 kg (13 st 8 lb)
Playing Position
Halfback, Five-eighth, Centre, Wing, Fullback
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad currently plays for the New Zealand Warriors in the National Rugby League. Nicoll-Klokstad is a utility player who can fill in any position in the backline. He is a Cook Islands international representative.
Nicoll-Klokstad was signed by the Melbourne Storm and played for their S. G. Ball Cup team before joining their NYC team for 2014 and 2015, playing in 37 matches and scoring 16 tries. In 2014, Nicoll-Klokstad received Melbourne’s NYC back of the year and the Greg Brentnall Young Achievers’ Award. On 17 October 2015, Nicoll-Klokstad represented Cook Islands in their World Cup qualification match against Tonga, playing on the wing and scoring the first try of the match in the their 28-8 loss at Campbelltown Stadium. On 23 October 2015, Nicoll-Klokstad signed with the New Zealand Warriors on a 2-year contract starting in 2016\. On 8 May 2016, Nicoll-Klokstad played at fullback for the Cook Islands in their international against Lebanon. After playing every game for the Warriors in the Intrust Super Premiership NSW in 2016, and winning their ISP player of the year award,Nicoll-Klokstad was named at centre in the 2016 ISP Team of the Year.
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad
Born 2 August 1995 (age 21)Auckland, New Zealand
Height 182 cm (6 ft 0 in)
Weight 86 kg (13 st 8 lb)
Playing Position
Halfback, Five-eighth, Centre, Wing, Fullback
Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad currently plays for the New Zealand Warriors in the National Rugby League. Nicoll-Klokstad is a utility player who can fill in any position in the backline. He is a Cook Islands international representative.
Nicoll-Klokstad was signed by the Melbourne Storm and played for their S. G. Ball Cup team before joining their NYC team for 2014 and 2015, playing in 37 matches and scoring 16 tries. In 2014, Nicoll-Klokstad received Melbourne’s NYC back of the year and the Greg Brentnall Young Achievers’ Award. On 17 October 2015, Nicoll-Klokstad represented Cook Islands in their World Cup qualification match against Tonga, playing on the wing and scoring the first try of the match in the their 28-8 loss at Campbelltown Stadium. On 23 October 2015, Nicoll-Klokstad signed with the New Zealand Warriors on a 2-year contract starting in 2016\. On 8 May 2016, Nicoll-Klokstad played at fullback for the Cook Islands in their international against Lebanon. After playing every game for the Warriors in the Intrust Super Premiership NSW in 2016, and winning their ISP player of the year award,Nicoll-Klokstad was named at centre in the 2016 ISP Team of the Year.
happy_tiger
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Depends on what you eat and how many Dogs players get food poisoning
weststigers
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Seeing as we're playing fantasy football, I reckon we need to be smart and play a bit of money ball here.
Assuming both Woods and Tedesco leave, I would sign:
Fullback:
Michael Gordon (cheapie)
Wing:
David Mead (cheapie)
Centre:
Dane Gagai/Taane Milne (Milne would be cheap)
These 3 guys have all played fullback, centre and wing (except for Milne), so they are interchangable in the backline.
Halves:
Tyrone Roberts (backup - maybe fills a utility spot on the bench?)
Gareth Widdop
Props
Mautulino
Vete
Packer
Hooker
Nathan Peats
Team would look like this:
1\. Michael Gordon
2\. David Nofoaluma
3\. Dane Gagai/Taane Milne
4\. Moses Suli
5\. David Mead
6\. Gareth Widdop
7\. Luke Brooks
8\. Ava Seumanafagai
9\. Nathan Peats
10\. Ben Mautulino
11\. Chris McQueen
12\. Jamal Idris
13\. Elijah Taylor
14\. Tyrone Roberts
15\. Albert Vete
16\. Jesse Sue
17\. Russel Packer
Assuming both Woods and Tedesco leave, I would sign:
Fullback:
Michael Gordon (cheapie)
Wing:
David Mead (cheapie)
Centre:
Dane Gagai/Taane Milne (Milne would be cheap)
These 3 guys have all played fullback, centre and wing (except for Milne), so they are interchangable in the backline.
Halves:
Tyrone Roberts (backup - maybe fills a utility spot on the bench?)
Gareth Widdop
Props
Mautulino
Vete
Packer
Hooker
Nathan Peats
Team would look like this:
1\. Michael Gordon
2\. David Nofoaluma
3\. Dane Gagai/Taane Milne
4\. Moses Suli
5\. David Mead
6\. Gareth Widdop
7\. Luke Brooks
8\. Ava Seumanafagai
9\. Nathan Peats
10\. Ben Mautulino
11\. Chris McQueen
12\. Jamal Idris
13\. Elijah Taylor
14\. Tyrone Roberts
15\. Albert Vete
16\. Jesse Sue
17\. Russel Packer
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