Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tiger19]

The Dogs had the Morris twins and were awful. Spending big on a bunch of outside backs is not how you win this comp. Expect them to continue to finish 8th to 14th for the next 4 years

Dogs were actually competitive for large chunks of games last year but couldn’t score points, I’d say they are filling needs with NRL proven players or ones that look like they have upside (Burton/Hetherington). Honestly I think they’ll push for top 4 maybe miss due to a lack of a hooker.

Do you honestly think the dogs will push for top 4 in 2021?!

No chance. They won't make the 8. They may get close to the 8 in 2021 when JAC and Burton join the team.

Cotric and Allen are upgrades and Flanagan will give them direction. Their pack is NRL standard. I have them 4th-9th. If they miss it’ll be due to Marshall-King at hooker.

The best club of the last decade, moved Flanagan on, so why do you think he will shine in a bottom 2 team?

Allen was moved on, why was that?

There forwards got to an inch of the spoon only because the Bronc’s were the worst ever.

I think they will struggle. Then watch the club implode at board level blaming everyone for the debacle.

Also Burton had big wraps,but what has he done?Some said he will end up in the forwards.

On the one hand, people are saying our young talent strategy is great, then bag the Bulldogs Burton signing - Who will definitely be a long term NRL talent - so which is it?

I swear there’s a few jealous fans on here, we’d be over the moon if we get Cotric, JAC and Burton. And hetherington.

Just like fellow forum posts questioning Simkin,Madden and others,what is Burtons ability based on?Gus said he was a future talent and everyone got on board.Has anyone seen him play? Regarding Dogs signings i agreed there were some good ones,but think the money is spent to quick without much thought .Just my opinion.

In the small amount of FG games he’s played he looks a real real talent. Lots of time, space, explosiveness, and a big body for a half too.

 

[BAGNF05]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.


It's actually quite different, Roosters have the benefit of 3 origin spine players plus a stack of already talented backs/forwards. Gambling on a rookie for them is definitely a lot less risky than the dogs

I agree with you there and put us in the same bucket as the Dogs, I’d argue it’s even more risky for us given our senior players include Brooks, Roberts, BJ, Mbye, Packer

 

[Speed2burn]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.


It's actually quite different, Roosters have the benefit of 3 origin spine players plus a stack of already talented backs/forwards. Gambling on a rookie for them is definitely a lot less risky than the dogs

I agree with you there and put us in the same bucket as the Dogs, I’d argue it’s even more risky for us given our senior players include Brooks, Roberts, BJ, Mbye, Packer

Goodness me that is scary don't remind me :grimacing:

 

[sleeve]

What a about Papa,Keary,Munster,and a dozen others?JAC is brilliant but only for about 5 minutes in an 80 min game.This is what you are missing ,its easy to get carried away with brilliance but sometimes its a small contributor in a game.

Those 15 players are priority signing number one for their respective clubs and unlikely to become available.

Read the original ,this comment is out of context with what was said.

 

[BAGNF05]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.


It's actually quite different, Roosters have the benefit of 3 origin spine players plus a stack of already talented backs/forwards. Gambling on a rookie for them is definitely a lot less risky than the dogs

I agree with you there and put us in the same bucket as the Dogs, I’d argue it’s even more risky for us given our senior players include Brooks, Roberts, BJ, Mbye, Packer

Goodness me that is scary don't remind me :grimacing:

2022 will be our year ?

 

[BAGNF05]

What a about Papa,Keary,Munster,and a dozen others?JAC is brilliant but only for about 5 minutes in an 80 min game.This is what you are missing ,its easy to get carried away with brilliance but sometimes its a small contributor in a game.

Those 15 players are priority signing number one for their respective clubs and unlikely to become available.

Read the original ,this comment is out of context with what was said.

The original post was saying that those 15 players are more influential than JAC, which is true, but my point is those 15 players weren’t on the market, making JAC the best marquee option.

 

[sleeve]

What a about Papa,Keary,Munster,and a dozen others?JAC is brilliant but only for about 5 minutes in an 80 min game.This is what you are missing ,its easy to get carried away with brilliance but sometimes its a small contributor in a game.

Those 15 players are priority signing number one for their respective clubs and unlikely to become available.

Read the original ,this comment is out of context with what was said.

I replied to the post that after teddy JAC was the best attacking player in the game,your comment does not relate to the argument.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.


And they are paying top dollar for those wingers. It’s a high risk play imo. What do they do when/if they realise none of those wingers are fullbacks? ?

Cotric will play centre, Allen will play fullback and Addo Carr is the best winger in the comp. Burton is a huge signing. As much as the Tigers goggles are preventing everyone from seeing it, the Dogs are actually building nicely. Add a good hooker and they're looking pretty good.

Avo, they’re looking “better,” particularly if the new guys perform according to expectations. My point was they’re paying overs. No doubt about JAC being a talent but $650k for a winger on a long term deal? I thought we were right to offer slightly over $500k.

If we're offering Nofoaluma $500k then Addo-Carr is worth every penny of $650k, and then some.

100 %

 

[BAGNF05]

What a about Papa,Keary,Munster,and a dozen others?JAC is brilliant but only for about 5 minutes in an 80 min game.This is what you are missing ,its easy to get carried away with brilliance but sometimes its a small contributor in a game.

Those 15 players are priority signing number one for their respective clubs and unlikely to become available.

Read the original ,this comment is out of context with what was said.

I replied to the post that after teddy JAC was the best attacking player in the game,your comment does not relate to the argument.

Fair enough, my bad.

 

[sleeve]

What a about Papa,Keary,Munster,and a dozen others?JAC is brilliant but only for about 5 minutes in an 80 min game.This is what you are missing ,its easy to get carried away with brilliance but sometimes its a small contributor in a game.

Those 15 players are priority signing number one for their respective clubs and unlikely to become available.

Read the original ,this comment is out of context with what was said.

I replied to the post that after teddy JAC was the best attacking player in the game,your comment does not relate to the argument.

Fair enough, my bad.

OK mate i do it all the time! HA.no sweat.

 

[gato]

The Dogs had the Morris twins and were awful. Spending big on a bunch of outside backs is not how you win this comp. Expect them to continue to finish 8th to 14th for the next 4 years

Dogs were actually competitive for large chunks of games last year but couldn’t score points, I’d say they are filling needs with NRL proven players or ones that look like they have upside (Burton/Hetherington). Honestly I think they’ll push for top 4 maybe miss due to a lack of a hooker.

Do you honestly think the dogs will push for top 4 in 2021?!

No chance. They won't make the 8. They may get close to the 8 in 2021 when JAC and Burton join the team.

Cotric and Allen are upgrades and Flanagan will give them direction. Their pack is NRL standard. I have them 4th-9th. If they miss it’ll be due to Marshall-King at hooker.

The best club of the last decade, moved Flanagan on, so why do you think he will shine in a bottom 2 team?

Allen was moved on, why was that?

There forwards got to an inch of the spoon only because the Bronc’s were the worst ever.

I think they will struggle. Then watch the club implode at board level blaming everyone for the debacle.

Also Burton had big wraps,but what has he done?Some said he will end up in the forwards.

On the one hand, people are saying our young talent strategy is great, then bag the Bulldogs Burton signing - Who will definitely be a long term NRL talent - so which is it?

I swear there’s a few jealous fans on here, we’d be over the moon if we get Cotric, JAC and Burton. And hetherington.

Just like fellow forum posts questioning Simkin,Madden and others,what is Burtons ability based on?Gus said he was a future talent and everyone got on board.Has anyone seen him play? Regarding Dogs signings i agreed there were some good ones,but think the money is spent to quick without much thought .Just my opinion.

In the small amount of FG games he’s played he looks a real real talent. Lots of time, space, explosiveness, and a big body for a half too.

Unless the dogs improve their pack in 2022 Burton might have trouble getting that time and space though

 

[Cairnstigers]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.


And they are paying top dollar for those wingers. It’s a high risk play imo. What do they do when/if they realise none of those wingers are fullbacks? ?

Cotric will play centre, Allen will play fullback and Addo Carr is the best winger in the comp. Burton is a huge signing. As much as the Tigers goggles are preventing everyone from seeing it, the Dogs are actually building nicely. Add a good hooker and they're looking pretty good.

Avo, they’re looking “better,” particularly if the new guys perform according to expectations. My point was they’re paying overs. No doubt about JAC being a talent but $650k for a winger on a long term deal? I thought we were right to offer slightly over $500k.

If we're offering Nofoaluma $500k then Addo-Carr is worth every penny of $650k, and then some.


I thought we offered Nofa $400k? making him one of the highest paid wingers in the nrl.

Its probably why he hasn't signed on the dotted line yet
I wouldn't give Addo-Carr any more than $550'000
And thats to much for a winger
If he transitions to fullback then sure
But that's a gamble

We are all getting excited with our recent Signings and current roster
New players bring new hope and hopefully better results
The most pleasing thing is we still have spots available and plenty of $ to spend

Bring it on

 

[KevB]

I like the recruiting in the forwards so far but to me 1 to 7 is like a box of chocolates. I’ll be happy if we make the top 8 this year and if our young blokes step up I’ll be disappointed if we’re not playing semi’s for 3 or 4 years after that.

I think 1-7 is stronger than last year.

AD should be an improvement on an ageing Benji.

We probably now have the best centre depth in the NRL.

Worst case scenario on the wing is we have Mansour, who is still light years ahead of Jennings. Best case, AJ kills it there.

Fullback might be an issue, but won't be worse than last season.

I haven't kept up with the Benji in 2021 thing. Has he signed with anyone yet?

If he finally decides to retire it's like Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon finally deciding to concede defeat to Biden. It's like .....mate.....I'm not sure why it took you so long. And, in the interim, your legacy and reputation has been tarnished beyond repair.

That's a bit unfair mate Benji Marshall is nothing like Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the only thing they have in common is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's hair & face are the same colour of the jersey he used to wear.

 

[beachtiger]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.

I agree that bagging the dogs strategy is wrong but to think we should be matching their recruitment strategy is also wrong. We have a different “business model” to them and therefore to compare us is not comparing apples and apples.

They are clearly trying to buy a team that will deliver short term success (potentially) to the detriment of long term roster stability.

We on the other hand are looking to build long term roster stability which I believe will be sustainable and build a power club of the future, opposed to short term success (see bulldogs comment above). I am much more comfortable with our club’s strategy than the bulldogs.

 

[TrueTiger]

I will have one input to this thread atm....everyone wetting their pants over JAC,should really understand the game and how different systems and coaching work at this level..

1...JAC has done really well in the Melb system and coaching from Bellamy...
2...The whole team works as a unit and therefore they have won numerous premierships with the core team..
3...JAC finishes well, AFTER the forwards and backs put him in the position to score and they have done their work,his speed is needed to finish off the movement...
4...He is a winger,thats all he has played...huge punt paying him big money to play FB ...unknown commodity....even as a winger $650k is outrageous especially in a team like the Dogs who are rebuilding with a non proven NRL coach....

Just my opinion...because I dont let emotions get in the way of reality,either does Hartigan...

 

[BAGNF05]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.

I agree that bagging the dogs strategy is wrong but to think we should be matching their recruitment strategy is also wrong. We have a different “business model” to them and therefore to compare us is not comparing apples and apples.

They are clearly trying to buy a team that will deliver short term success (potentially) to the detriment of long term roster stability.

We on the other hand are looking to build long term roster stability which I believe will be sustainable and build a power club of the future, opposed to short term success (see bulldogs comment above). I am much more comfortable with our club’s strategy than the bulldogs.

We are all competing for the same trophy and same top eight. Plenty of tomorrow’s in JAC, Flanagan, Burton, Hetherington, Cotric. I don’t see an issue with their strategy.

 

[beachtiger]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.

I agree that bagging the dogs strategy is wrong but to think we should be matching their recruitment strategy is also wrong. We have a different “business model” to them and therefore to compare us is not comparing apples and apples.

They are clearly trying to buy a team that will deliver short term success (potentially) to the detriment of long term roster stability.

We on the other hand are looking to build long term roster stability which I believe will be sustainable and build a power club of the future, opposed to short term success (see bulldogs comment above). I am much more comfortable with our club’s strategy than the bulldogs.

We are all competing for the same trophy and same top eight. Plenty of tomorrow’s in JAC, Flanagan, Burton, Hetherington, Cotric. I don’t see an issue with their strategy.

I don’t see an issue with it either, personally I prefer our approach though as I think we’ll have a longer term of success.

 

[tony soprano]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Allan is a fullback.... Burton and Flanagan in the halves. Cotric and JAC on the edges. Thompson and Hetherington in the middle. They still have to improve their pack but they’re shaping their squad very nicely

Their biggest weakness is Trent Barrett... he’s no head coach.

Allan is a mug. Burton is 2022. Flanagan - OK but failed at Roosters. Hetherington is fringe FG. Luke Thompson yet to prove he has what it takes at NRL level.

I honestly think these are generally poor signings and in the same vein as Tigers circa Ivan Cleary, lots of risk vs dollar value.

Bulldogs biggest issue past few years is direction around the park and consistent go-forward. They've done very little to address this and as far as I am aware haven't got a particularly good juniors pipeline at the moment either.

Allan is a solid fullback. Burton is 2022 yea but you said they have no halves but they’ve already signed two. Flanagan was made a scapegoat at roosters, he did fine.

They’ve signed well, doesn’t mean they’ll become a premiership threat but on paper for 2022 their team is looking nice. They need a few better forwards but Hetherington looks solid and Thompson will come good he’s a beast.

if Flannagan couldn't get it done at the Roosters he doesn't have a hope of success
leading the dogs

I didn’t think he was that bad at roosters. He was okay but wasn’t a superstar

Roosters punted him with 1 year remaining after he was originally not wanted at Cronulla, I’m sure the back to back premiers can gauge a players attributes better than us

They’ve also got two of the hottest prospects in Suaali and Walker coming through. I don’t think he was amazing but he was okay, did some nice things for them

Isn’t that telling you something then?

He’s being replaced by guys with no nrl experience. I think if he was good roosters keep him

That is exactly what WT are doing and people on here are jumping for joy????

What are you on about? If you’re referring to Liddle / Simpkins replacing grant, I’m nervous but slightly optimistic on potential. Definitely not overly confident though

The comment was a negative one about replacing guys with rookies, isn’t that WT new strategy? Simpkin, Blore, Simpkins, Stefano, Laurie, etc. I just think there’s some double standards in lots of comments bagging the dogs. I think our club should be aiming to match their recruiting for 2022 rather than just death riding the good players they are signing.

I agree that bagging the dogs strategy is wrong but to think we should be matching their recruitment strategy is also wrong. We have a different “business model” to them and therefore to compare us is not comparing apples and apples.

They are clearly trying to buy a team that will deliver short term success (potentially) to the detriment of long term roster stability.

We on the other hand are looking to build long term roster stability which I believe will be sustainable and build a power club of the future, opposed to short term success (see bulldogs comment above). I am much more comfortable with our club’s strategy than the bulldogs.

We are all competing for the same trophy and same top eight. Plenty of tomorrow’s in JAC, Flanagan, Burton, Hetherington, Cotric. I don’t see an issue with their strategy.

JAC is a beast

 

[Russell]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.


And they are paying top dollar for those wingers. It’s a high risk play imo. What do they do when/if they realise none of those wingers are fullbacks? ?

Cotric will play centre, Allen will play fullback and Addo Carr is the best winger in the comp. Burton is a huge signing. As much as the Tigers goggles are preventing everyone from seeing it, the Dogs are actually building nicely. Add a good hooker and they're looking pretty good.

Avo, they’re looking “better,” particularly if the new guys perform according to expectations. My point was they’re paying overs. No doubt about JAC being a talent but $650k for a winger on a long term deal? I thought we were right to offer slightly over $500k.

If we're offering Nofoaluma $500k then Addo-Carr is worth every penny of $650k, and then some.


I thought we offered Nofa $400k? making him one of the highest paid wingers in the nrl.

I heard from a reliable source who is neighbors with his manager he is after $650k....

Thanks for posting, but I don't believe it.

 

[tony soprano]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.


And they are paying top dollar for those wingers. It’s a high risk play imo. What do they do when/if they realise none of those wingers are fullbacks? ?

Cotric will play centre, Allen will play fullback and Addo Carr is the best winger in the comp. Burton is a huge signing. As much as the Tigers goggles are preventing everyone from seeing it, the Dogs are actually building nicely. Add a good hooker and they're looking pretty good.

Avo, they’re looking “better,” particularly if the new guys perform according to expectations. My point was they’re paying overs. No doubt about JAC being a talent but $650k for a winger on a long term deal? I thought we were right to offer slightly over $500k.

If we're offering Nofoaluma $500k then Addo-Carr is worth every penny of $650k, and then some.


I thought we offered Nofa $400k? making him one of the highest paid wingers in the nrl.

I heard from a reliable source who is neighbors with his manager he is after $650k....

Thanks for posting, but I don't believe it.

Well looks like now we could miss nofo and mansour who steps up?

Missing mansour must say excited for AJ don’t know what it is about that guy