Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[sleeve]

If we could bag Critchton,we would be covered in the FB,5/8,and centre positions for years ,and be a top 4 candidate fairy soon.

 

[Tiger5150]

I should have kept my post simple.

Who's going to kick 75-85% to help us win those close games?

We should get that guy who was kicking at 83% for Melbourne last year, Is HE available?

 

[carltonleach]

If we could bag Critchton,we would be covered in the FB,5/8,and centre positions for years ,and be a top 4 candidate fairy soon.

Would be tremendous but I really don’t like our chances. I’d be going hard after him though that’s for sure

 

[Cairnstigers]

Big mistake. We lost 5 close games last year due to poor kicking.

Momo in his handful of games at Melbourne last year kicked at 83.33%.

Even if he kicked at 75% for WT, we'd be ahead and would have won 3 out of those 5 close games, and made the eight.

Momo should have had the first crack at #1 this year, he's got safe hands, great footy IQ and sniffs out tries with ease.

Moses was our best kicker in 2020 at 63.41%. If this continues, we're in trouble -



**Why do people completely make things up to suit their agenda when the truth is so clear.** Momo hasnt kicked a goal for ANYONE but the Tigers and he kicked at only 75% that year and missed a kick from in front that would have got us to the semis.


The irony of this post lol .

The scores would have been tied 18-18 if he got the kick, and knowing us , could have easily ended up losing still


No irony at all, he kicks it, its tied, tie gets us in the 8, or we win and we are in the 8. We had to get beaten to miss the 8. Missing the goal, we get beaten.

By the way, my post was in response to a post about Momo kicking at 83% for Melbourne. He has NEVER kicked a goal for Melbourne, or Roosters and only kicked at 75% for us. In that game, where we lost by 2 and he missed one from in front....he kicked **2 from 5!!!!! Thats 40%**....but yeah Momo was going to save us with goal kicking.


But your post made it sound like his kick advances us into the semis, which actually isn't right lol

Man we must have a bunch of talented kickers to complain about a dude with a 21/28 goal kicking record right?


I dont care what it "sounds like" to you, thats not what I said. Its irrelevant to the point i was making in response to someone making up an 83% goal kicking record and making the claim that we need Momo for his goal kicking.

Well all we can go on is his actual performance. 75% is nothing to get excited about and as I say, when it meant something, against the team coming last, a few weeks out from the semi finals, he kicked 2/5 including missing one from in front. We lost by 2, we miss the 8.

That is not a kicker I'll hang my hopes on, but feel free to correct me.
Should I be excited about kicking rate of 75% or a kicker who cant kick under pressure?

Should I just make up a stat to strengthen my case?

Haha the fact we were even in that position against a wooden spoon team , fighting for a top 8 position was a disgrace mate. But yeah lets blame the rookie

Anyways no point discussing it anymore he's not even ours, good deal for both parties


Not blaming the rookie, I was responding (to someone else) making the claim that Momo's goalkicking would be the difference for us and MAKING UP stats to prove the case. I merely used actual facts to show that his goalkicking isnt reliable enough to depend on. Dont shoot me, but feel free to point out a flaw in my argument.

Its a team sport
As per below result that knocked us out of the finals
Every player has a part to play in a win or lose

 

[sleeve]

I should have kept my post simple.

Who's going to kick 75-85% to help us win those close games?


We should get that guy who was kicking at 83% for Melbourne last year, Is HE available?

Doiehie,Mbye,Madden,Brooks all been given extensive kicking training this year by a specialist.This must lead to some improvement surely.

 

[Tiger5150]

Big mistake. We lost 5 close games last year due to poor kicking.

Momo in his handful of games at Melbourne last year kicked at 83.33%.

Even if he kicked at 75% for WT, we'd be ahead and would have won 3 out of those 5 close games, and made the eight.

Momo should have had the first crack at #1 this year, he's got safe hands, great footy IQ and sniffs out tries with ease.

Moses was our best kicker in 2020 at 63.41%. If this continues, we're in trouble -



**Why do people completely make things up to suit their agenda when the truth is so clear.** Momo hasnt kicked a goal for ANYONE but the Tigers and he kicked at only 75% that year and missed a kick from in front that would have got us to the semis.


The irony of this post lol .

The scores would have been tied 18-18 if he got the kick, and knowing us , could have easily ended up losing still


No irony at all, he kicks it, its tied, tie gets us in the 8, or we win and we are in the 8. We had to get beaten to miss the 8. Missing the goal, we get beaten.

By the way, my post was in response to a post about Momo kicking at 83% for Melbourne. He has NEVER kicked a goal for Melbourne, or Roosters and only kicked at 75% for us. In that game, where we lost by 2 and he missed one from in front....he kicked **2 from 5!!!!! Thats 40%**....but yeah Momo was going to save us with goal kicking.


But your post made it sound like his kick advances us into the semis, which actually isn't right lol

Man we must have a bunch of talented kickers to complain about a dude with a 21/28 goal kicking record right?


I dont care what it "sounds like" to you, thats not what I said. Its irrelevant to the point i was making in response to someone making up an 83% goal kicking record and making the claim that we need Momo for his goal kicking.

Well all we can go on is his actual performance. 75% is nothing to get excited about and as I say, when it meant something, against the team coming last, a few weeks out from the semi finals, he kicked 2/5 including missing one from in front. We lost by 2, we miss the 8.

That is not a kicker I'll hang my hopes on, but feel free to correct me.
Should I be excited about kicking rate of 75% or a kicker who cant kick under pressure?

Should I just make up a stat to strengthen my case?

Haha the fact we were even in that position against a wooden spoon team , fighting for a top 8 position was a disgrace mate. But yeah lets blame the rookie

Anyways no point discussing it anymore he's not even ours, good deal for both parties


Not blaming the rookie, I was responding (to someone else) making the claim that Momo's goalkicking would be the difference for us and MAKING UP stats to prove the case. I merely used actual facts to show that his goalkicking isnt reliable enough to depend on. Dont shoot me, but feel free to point out a flaw in my argument.

Its a team sport
As per below result that knocked us out of the finals
Every player has a part to play in a win or lose

Mate I was at that game and you dont have to tell me (although Madge playing Robbie with a busted leg was a bad idea). I also agree with your point and there is a whole season to make up enough wins agree.

I am merely making the point in response to Leck saying that it is mistake to let Momo go ***because of his goalkicking***, that on the actual evidence and experience, his goalkicking is not reliable enough to depend on, particularly when the pressure is on. Im not making it up, it happened.

 

[Newtown]

Is that the end of the Hastings to Tigers?

 

[bathursttiger1]

In my WT players card pack I still have four cards I am willing to swap ......

Cini
Walters
Packer
And maybe our former “capitano” if the trade is worthwhile.

My priority is 5/8 and Lock. I’d take Hastings for Walters (it’s a no brainer for me).
If pushed Packer and Mbye I can do with for another season.
Cini just doesn’t do it for me but you never know I might be in for a surprise.


I would be very happy if we could move all 4

3 of the 4 will be gone next year, we just need some club to take Mbye.

 

[Roar_Power]

In my WT players card pack I still have four cards I am willing to swap ......

Cini
Walters
Packer
And maybe our former “capitano” if the trade is worthwhile.

My priority is 5/8 and Lock. I’d take Hastings for Walters (it’s a no brainer for me).
If pushed Packer and Mbye I can do with for another season.
Cini just doesn’t do it for me but you never know I might be in for a surprise.

I imagine Cini, Walters, Chee Kam, Packer and maybe Seyfarth will all be gone by or at seasons end.

 

[JC99]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

 

[full80]

Big mistake. We lost 5 close games last year due to poor kicking.

Momo in his handful of games at Melbourne last year kicked at 83.33%.

Even if he kicked at 75% for WT, we'd be ahead and would have won 3 out of those 5 close games, and made the eight.

Momo should have had the first crack at #1 this year, he's got safe hands, great footy IQ and sniffs out tries with ease.

Moses was our best kicker in 2020 at 63.41%. If this continues, we're in trouble -



He missed a kick from right in front that would have got us into the 8 in 2019. Not the guy I want to rely on.

He missed a kick from the side, that would have levelled the game is how I remember it. We would then have gone into Golden Point against the Dogs and had to have won it from there. We were the worse team for 70 minutes of the game so no guarantee we would have won it anyway

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

Easy? Tell that to Hoffman. Poor kid would still be waking up in a cold sweat.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

For all the naysayers of Hastings.....just wondering who they want to do a job in the halves if Brooks and perhaps Madden go down with injury?
We could end up with Mbye and Talau in the halves by season's end. Not exactly a heartwarming proposition.

Hey I’m assuming you are talking about a very specific example where brooks, madden AND douehi all go down to injury at the same time. Just to be clear?

EDIT:
Walters as well at this stage, and possibly liddle or simpkins as dummy halves would be a better bet to throw into the halves IF all 3-4-5 players mentioned above all miraculously get injured long term at the same time lol.

Yeah Walters will go great, considering he is currently rehabbing an ACL.
Liddle has barely played in 3 seasons, Simpkin has yet to debut in his specialist position let alone get thrown in as a stop-gap half. Douiehi has played what, 1 or 2 games at 5/8 for us?
You're right.....we are sweet for options??

Thats an odd statement to make in my opinion.
liddle and simpkin have played close to nothing as per your statement, but you want the club to prepare for a situation where all our halves options go down the the drain and bring on a bloke thats not used to the code XD

Bro......


Edit: going to stop the discussion about this here, I’ve seen you make the same statement a few times now, going back to the discussion about your view vs my view. Mate i hope we dont get to the point where everyones injured and we wished hastings was around, but i have an odd feeling we’ll be alright.

Edit part 2: I’m kind of jealous of penrith fans in discussions like these. They get to talk about crichton, burton, laurie and leniu. All rookies given a shot and excelled. We have a few coming up and our own fans want to say yea no thanks most of the time. thats poor 🙁 but hey good luck to the rookies they have my backing for sure.

Hastings not used to the code? Don't understand that part of the argument.
Agree with the final part of your post, any player who pulls on our jersey has my full support and I hope they play the house down. Should be an exciting season for us?

 

[JC99]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

Easy? Tell that to Hoffman. Poor kid would still be waking up in a cold sweat.

Even still he didn't do much wrong. Mbye kept flying up and Hoffman has no choice but to follow him. Still managed to do his job and grab a try. As long as they know the defensive system they'll be fine

 

[jadtiger]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

Easy? Tell that to Hoffman. Poor kid would still be waking up in a cold sweat.

Hoffman got much of the criticism but imho most of it was M'Bye stuff ups not Hoffmans.An abysmal performance by the so called captain and leader.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

Easy? Tell that to Hoffman. Poor kid would still be waking up in a cold sweat.

Even still he didn't do much wrong. Mbye kept flying up and Hoffman has no choice but to follow him. Still managed to do his job and grab a try. As long as they know the defensive system they'll be fine

Yep, definitely wasn't all Hoffman's fault: he got badly let down by Mbye. Not an easy debut, it would've scarred him a bit, especially getting dropped after that game and not seeing firsts for the rest of the year.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Big mistake. We lost 5 close games last year due to poor kicking.

Momo in his handful of games at Melbourne last year kicked at 83.33%.

Even if he kicked at 75% for WT, we'd be ahead and would have won 3 out of those 5 close games, and made the eight.

Momo should have had the first crack at #1 this year, he's got safe hands, great footy IQ and sniffs out tries with ease.

Moses was our best kicker in 2020 at 63.41%. If this continues, we're in trouble -


Far out ! He was NOT going to be in the team ! I don’t understand why this is so hard to accept ? He could kick at 💯 and it wouldn’t matter because he was going to play for the magpies .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I said in the other thread I am concerned.

We have 4 outside backs (not counting Mbye & Doueihi) that have played more than 5 first grade games. Young players need some experience around them and we are a couple of injuries away from throwing kids to wolves.

The negotiations are questionable, we started off offering Cini & ended up giving up Momo. I know which I would rather on my roster, even if only for depth purposes.

Nothing wrong with throwing young kids in on the wing. It's young forwards and spine players that normally take time to adjust, playing on the wing is easy.

Easy? Tell that to Hoffman. Poor kid would still be waking up in a cold sweat.

Even still he didn't do much wrong. Mbye kept flying up and Hoffman has no choice but to follow him. Still managed to do his job and grab a try. As long as they know the defensive system they'll be fine

At the time i remember saying it looked like Mbye was trying to do it all himself , and didn’t trust Hoffman to make the one one tackle. Which created the problem he was trying to prevent .

 

[Russell]

One thing that baffles me is that Hastings has ripped up ESL and looked a class above it for 2 years now and many people on here still turn their nose up at him and say NO. Yet Gareth Widdop came over last year with a big reputation, did very little and looked average at best, in the very same competition as Hastings yet people still wanted to sign him when he was linked pre Christmas.

I hope you are not comparing Hastings with Widdop? Chalk and cheese.

You say "Widdop came over last year?"

He basically played here since 2010.

i.e. 2010-13 Melbourne Storm (71 games)
2014-19 St. George (125 games)

He earned his reputation don't worry. I know, so did Hastings, but that was as a Flog.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Is that the end of the Hastings to Tigers?

I Hope so