Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358843) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358785) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358776) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358759) said:
@tigersj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358714) said:
Flanagan would be no better than Brooks behind our pack. We should only be looking at players who are "competitors", winners who hate to lose and play at 110% every week.
In my view we should be throwing the house at Brandon Smith, Finucane, Nathan Brown or Sua, a genuine winger and a centre. These sort of guys will lead the way and lift our up and coming young blokes with them.


We lack the clutch, hard edge back rower that pretty much all the good teams have. Same goes for the prop position.

Its our biggest issue imo.

We need a Wade Graham, Cameron Murray, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher Harris, Jason Taumalolo, Tyson Frizzell, Jared Waerea Haregreaves, Boyd Cordner Jesse Bromwhich, Dale Finucane, or Jake Trbojevic type of player.

these guys set the culture, they set the standards and they lead the way.

Our closest is Joe Ofahengaue. He is a B grade version but does lead the way.

Recruitment priority should be to strengthen this area of our squad with guys who can lead us going forward.

Is cordner off contract?
I do wonder whether we could temp him to come across and lead a young side.
Rooster may be more keen on keeping Chrichton as there is more longevity there.
But a fit cordner for a couple of seasons is something I wouldn’t think is possible therefore I didn’t even consider it.


He could only help this rabble of a senior playing group.

That said id rather try and identify the next three or four guys who are capable of being this type of player and recruiting them.

Nat Butcher would be where i start, hell of a young player.

Go for the value.

Yeah great call. Would cost us upwards of 400k I’d say but can play any role in the forward pack and we’ll. Probably a younger Finucane.

Sorry ? He is rubbish. All the talk of how Hynes would be no good without ex amount of players in front of him, butcher is from the same flock. Bog average at every position he plays.
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358857) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358814) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358776) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358759) said:
@tigersj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358714) said:
Flanagan would be no better than Brooks behind our pack. We should only be looking at players who are "competitors", winners who hate to lose and play at 110% every week.
In my view we should be throwing the house at Brandon Smith, Finucane, Nathan Brown or Sua, a genuine winger and a centre. These sort of guys will lead the way and lift our up and coming young blokes with them.


We lack the clutch, hard edge back rower that pretty much all the good teams have. Same goes for the prop position.

Its our biggest issue imo.

We need a Wade Graham, Cameron Murray, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher Harris, Jason Taumalolo, Tyson Frizzell, Jared Waerea Haregreaves, Boyd Cordner Jesse Bromwhich, Dale Finucane, or Jake Trbojevic type of player.

these guys set the culture, they set the standards and they lead the way.

Our closest is Joe Ofahengaue. He is a B grade version but does lead the way.

Recruitment priority should be to strengthen this area of our squad with guys who can lead us going forward.

Is cordner off contract?
I do wonder whether we could temp him to come across and lead a young side.
Rooster may be more keen on keeping Chrichton as there is more longevity there.
But a fit cordner for a couple of seasons is something I wouldn’t think is possible therefore I didn’t even consider it.


Cordner cant even get on the field for the rorters and is probably only 1 or 2 HIAs from being forced to retire and in his case it would be genuine unlike Flog Burgess

Do you think? There’s been no talk of Jake Friend having a medical retirement.


I am sure Cordner gets more HIAs than any other player in the game,he seriously cant keep on getting them
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358868) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358843) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358785) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358776) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358759) said:
@tigersj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358714) said:
Flanagan would be no better than Brooks behind our pack. We should only be looking at players who are "competitors", winners who hate to lose and play at 110% every week.
In my view we should be throwing the house at Brandon Smith, Finucane, Nathan Brown or Sua, a genuine winger and a centre. These sort of guys will lead the way and lift our up and coming young blokes with them.


We lack the clutch, hard edge back rower that pretty much all the good teams have. Same goes for the prop position.

Its our biggest issue imo.

We need a Wade Graham, Cameron Murray, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher Harris, Jason Taumalolo, Tyson Frizzell, Jared Waerea Haregreaves, Boyd Cordner Jesse Bromwhich, Dale Finucane, or Jake Trbojevic type of player.

these guys set the culture, they set the standards and they lead the way.

Our closest is Joe Ofahengaue. He is a B grade version but does lead the way.

Recruitment priority should be to strengthen this area of our squad with guys who can lead us going forward.

Is cordner off contract?
I do wonder whether we could temp him to come across and lead a young side.
Rooster may be more keen on keeping Chrichton as there is more longevity there.
But a fit cordner for a couple of seasons is something I wouldn’t think is possible therefore I didn’t even consider it.


He could only help this rabble of a senior playing group.

That said id rather try and identify the next three or four guys who are capable of being this type of player and recruiting them.

Nat Butcher would be where i start, hell of a young player.

Go for the value.

Yeah great call. Would cost us upwards of 400k I’d say but can play any role in the forward pack and we’ll. Probably a younger Finucane.

Sorry ? He is rubbish. All the talk of how Hynes would be no good without ex amount of players in front of him, butcher is from the same flock. Bog average at every position he plays.

Love this place.

And they say Facebook is bad lol
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358828) said:
Tuilagi is nowhere near those players mentioned

Agreed... should be the end really but it won’t...
 
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358626) said:
@izotope said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358593) said:
Surely were having a crack at Nicho Hynes, wants to start.
Play him 5/8, Douehi to 7. Play left and right and can play 1st and 2nd reciever for set plays when desired.

Douehi been 7 as he takes it to the line will open up plenty of space for Hynes

Hynes is not a 5/8th, his passing game is bog average & has a worse kicking game. His best position is fullback and he isn’t better than Laurie.

The question for me is
Would Laurie at 6 Doueihi at 7 and Hynes at fullback make us stronger then our current line up
IMO yes
I think Laurie Would be far more dangerous then Brooks in the halves

Hynes is fairly new to the scene but can more then hold his own and is solid
He had a good game against souths although they were down some key players
But you can't knock his performances so far

(Daine Laurie is a professional rugby league footballer who plays as a fullback or five-eighth for the Wests Tigers in the NRL. He previously played for the Penrith Panthers in the National Rugby League)

Laurie is young, possesses skill and would adapt very quickly into a regular 6

There has been way to much pressure on Brooks over the last few years I just dont know what that does to his mental state
I don't see him being able to break the shackles in the halves any time soon
A positional change or a change of club might be the best thing for him
Our club can not afford to play the nice guys
If we want to be a successful club then we need to be ruthless in selections and offloading players that don't live up to expectations
I know there are alot of Brooks supporters that will shoot me down, but you never know unless you give it a go with Laurie in the halves
Maybe give Brooks a go at Hooker
Or as a 14 super sub

WE ARE NOT WINNING GAMES SO WHAT IS THE HARM

Some great players have had positional switches in their careers
We shouldn't be afraid of that if it's not working for us
 
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358890) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358626) said:
@izotope said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358593) said:
Surely were having a crack at Nicho Hynes, wants to start.
Play him 5/8, Douehi to 7. Play left and right and can play 1st and 2nd reciever for set plays when desired.

Douehi been 7 as he takes it to the line will open up plenty of space for Hynes

Hynes is not a 5/8th, his passing game is bog average & has a worse kicking game. His best position is fullback and he isn’t better than Laurie.

The question for me is
Would Laurie at 6 Doueihi at 7 and Hynes at fullback make us stronger then our current line up
IMO yes
I think Laurie Would be far more dangerous then Brooks in the halves

Hynes is fairly new to the scene but can more then hold his own and is solid
He had a good game against souths although they were down some key players
But you can't knock his performances so far

(Daine Laurie is a professional rugby league footballer who plays as a fullback or five-eighth for the Wests Tigers in the NRL. He previously played for the Penrith Panthers in the National Rugby League)

Laurie is young, possesses skill and would adapt very quickly into a regular 6

There has been way to much pressure on Brooks over the last few years I just dont know what that does to his mental state
I don't see him being able to break the shackles in the halves any time soon
A positional change or a change of club might be the best thing for him
Our club can not afford to play the nice guys
If we want to be a successful club then we need to be ruthless in selections and offloading players that don't live up to expectations
I know there are alot of Brooks supporters that will shoot me down, but you never know unless you give it a go with Laurie in the halves
Maybe give Brooks a go at Hooker
Or as a 14 super sub

WE ARE NOT WINNING GAMES SO WHAT IS THE HARM

Some great players have had positional switches in their careers
We shouldn't be afraid of that if it's not working for us

I’m not sure Laurie can play the same way Madge has instructed Brooks to play, Doueihi maybe but his more effective out wide. Maybe it could work. Prehaps Brooks needs to take up MByes spot on the bench and be the middle link player, that would give us a fair bit more depth to play a left side right side style again.
I tend to think that’s why Hastings has been signed. To play that style of halfback / lock that Madge wants Brooks/MBye to play at the moment.
Maybe Hastings can play both roles more effectively than our incumbents.
 
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358944) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358890) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358626) said:
@izotope said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358593) said:
Surely were having a crack at Nicho Hynes, wants to start.
Play him 5/8, Douehi to 7. Play left and right and can play 1st and 2nd reciever for set plays when desired.

Douehi been 7 as he takes it to the line will open up plenty of space for Hynes

Hynes is not a 5/8th, his passing game is bog average & has a worse kicking game. His best position is fullback and he isn’t better than Laurie.

The question for me is
Would Laurie at 6 Doueihi at 7 and Hynes at fullback make us stronger then our current line up
IMO yes
I think Laurie Would be far more dangerous then Brooks in the halves

Hynes is fairly new to the scene but can more then hold his own and is solid
He had a good game against souths although they were down some key players
But you can't knock his performances so far

(Daine Laurie is a professional rugby league footballer who plays as a fullback or five-eighth for the Wests Tigers in the NRL. He previously played for the Penrith Panthers in the National Rugby League)

Laurie is young, possesses skill and would adapt very quickly into a regular 6

There has been way to much pressure on Brooks over the last few years I just dont know what that does to his mental state
I don't see him being able to break the shackles in the halves any time soon
A positional change or a change of club might be the best thing for him
Our club can not afford to play the nice guys
If we want to be a successful club then we need to be ruthless in selections and offloading players that don't live up to expectations
I know there are alot of Brooks supporters that will shoot me down, but you never know unless you give it a go with Laurie in the halves
Maybe give Brooks a go at Hooker
Or as a 14 super sub

WE ARE NOT WINNING GAMES SO WHAT IS THE HARM

Some great players have had positional switches in their careers
We shouldn't be afraid of that if it's not working for us

I’m not sure Laurie can play the same way Madge has instructed Brooks to play, Doueihi maybe but his more effective out wide. Maybe it could work. Prehaps Brooks needs to take up MByes spot on the bench and be the middle link player, that would give us a fair bit more depth to play a left side right side style again.
I tend to think that’s why Hastings has been signed. To play that style of halfback / lock that Madge wants Brooks/MBye to play at the moment.
Maybe Hastings can play both roles more effectively than our incumbents.

DO NOT MOVE LAURIE FROM NO 1!!!!
 
@vlad said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358956) said:
https://twitter.com/danny_weidler/status/1391710685516636167?s=21

@Yossarian ✔️
 
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358957) said:
@vlad said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358956) said:
https://twitter.com/danny_weidler/status/1391710685516636167?s=21

@Yossarian ✔️

It reads….

EXCLUSIVE : Wigan centre Oliver Gildart has agreed to join the @WestsTigers. Believe he just told his team mates in the UK. Three weeks back we told you Tigers had targeted him. Good pick up after signing Jackson Hastings. @9NewsSyd @NRLonNine
 
@mctiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358959) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358957) said:
@vlad said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358956) said:
https://twitter.com/danny_weidler/status/1391710685516636167?s=21

@Yossarian ✔️

It reads….

EXCLUSIVE : Wigan centre Oliver Gildart has agreed to join the @WestsTigers. Believe he just told his team mates in the UK. Three weeks back we told you Tigers had targeted him. Good pick up after signing Jackson Hastings. @9NewsSyd @NRLonNine

Next Adrian Lam will be wt coach ??
 
Cannot believe people are wanting to tinker with Doueihi and Laurie.

Doueihi is 100% not a halfback. He is really good as a second receiver or running on edges. He's such a strong runner, why play him at halfback where his primary role would be passing wide and organising? It makes no sense. Maybe he could fill in and do it, but if you want players playing their best position why move him? He really looks at home at 5/8. Maybe he could play a role as some sort of lock and he could probably play centre too, but his position and his strengths suit 5/8 as a ball runner with a good cut out pass, a bit of guile and a great mid field bomb (which wasn't going well against the Titans). Definitely not a halfback where I think you want to have acceleration, busyness, elusiveness. Doueihi has a bit of Fittler about him with the smooth running andscheming play.

Also, a big no to moving Laurie. How can anyone consider moving a player who has barely made an error at fullback and is getting better in attack every week? In a terrible side he still looks incredible, just wait until we actually have some momentum (if we ever get that).

Moving either of these players weakens our greatest strengths. Find better ideas people, moving these two would throw us into even more mediocrity.
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358825) said:
@tigerballs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358817) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358759) said:
@tigersj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358714) said:
Flanagan would be no better than Brooks behind our pack. We should only be looking at players who are "competitors", winners who hate to lose and play at 110% every week.
In my view we should be throwing the house at Brandon Smith, Finucane, Nathan Brown or Sua, a genuine winger and a centre. These sort of guys will lead the way and lift our up and coming young blokes with them.


We lack the clutch, hard edge back rower that pretty much all the good teams have. Same goes for the prop position.

Its our biggest issue imo.

We need a Wade Graham, Cameron Murray, Isaah Yeo, James Fisher Harris, Jason Taumalolo, Tyson Frizzell, Jared Waerea Haregreaves, Boyd Cordner Jesse Bromwhich, Dale Finucane, or Jake Trbojevic type of player.

these guys set the culture, they set the standards and they lead the way.

Our closest is Joe Ofahengaue. He is a B grade version but does lead the way.

Recruitment priority should be to strengthen this area of our squad with guys who can lead us going forward.


I think Joffa is going great and LL is up to scratch. Let’s see how Tuki, Tuilagi and Blore shape up.

Luciano Leilua is not clutch. Not even close.

Who said he was?
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358876) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358828) said:
Tuilagi is nowhere near those players mentioned

Agreed... should be the end really but it won’t...

That's because he's only 20. My suggestion was to see how they develop.
 
Interested to see how Gildart goes for us. Definitely has some real attacking talent, he will struggle with the physicality and dirty hit ups to start I'm sure and will need to adjust to the speed of the NRL but he looks like he can score and create points.
 
@mctiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358959) said:
@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358957) said:
@vlad said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1358956) said:
https://twitter.com/danny_weidler/status/1391710685516636167?s=21

@Yossarian ✔️

It reads….

EXCLUSIVE : Wigan centre Oliver Gildart has agreed to join the @WestsTigers. Believe he just told his team mates in the UK. Three weeks back we told you Tigers had targeted him. Good pick up after signing Jackson Hastings. @9NewsSyd @NRLonNine

I rate this bloke. One of the few pommie backs who I think can do well in the NRL. What about a pommie ball playing lock now!
 
Gildart will go well. He's a very good strike centre who's solid defensively. His main issue recently has been staying fit, he's picked up a fair few injuries over the last 2 years.
 
Gotta commend the club on trying something different, the Raiders became contenders by picking up the best players in England, hopefully Hastings and Gildart bring some determination and grit.
 

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