Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[weststigers]

I was reading that Souffs had signed up a lot of there junior talent and found this comment in the story it a wonder that Latrell & Co haven't taken offence to it

They are graduating through our ‘Black Rabbits’ elite development program and we’re really excited to see them progress as they get the opportunity to train with the full squad on a regular basis.

Not a good choice of words

Why? The rabbit logo on their jersey is black…

Does every little sentence need to be “race checked” in case someone is imaginative enough to twist that sentence into something it’s not?

 

[PJ_]

I hope we have some recruitment targets outside of Gildart, Hastings, Dallin and Sam Burgess.

At least our recruitment will be a success if we sign them 🙄

 

[TillLindemann]

Thoughts on Nick Meaney signing?....wing/center/fullback

Had some fair games for Doggies but there is better out there

I think wing is not a position that we need to go hard for anyone for. It should be capped at 600k for the 2 best in the game, possibly, but a serviceable winger who is safe and does their job will be sufficient. Sadly, we don't even have one of those for the second wing spot atm. I think that we could overcapitalise if we go too hard in that position and should rather put that money and effort elsewhere for greater return on investment. A Corey Thompson type in hindsight would stop gap us for now, obviously that ship has sailed. Let's look to the centres or a second strike edge.

I think we should wait a bit longer to see how Roberts continues to go on the wing. If he can regularly replicate last week's form I'd be happy to keep him on the wing next season (especially given his pretty low salary).

 

[dazza65]

I was reading that Souffs had signed up a lot of there junior talent and found this comment in the story it a wonder that Latrell & Co haven't taken offence to it

They are graduating through our ‘Black Rabbits’ elite development program and we’re really excited to see them progress as they get the opportunity to train with the full squad on a regular basis.

Not a good choice of words

Why? The rabbit logo on their jersey is black…

Does every little sentence need to be “race checked” in case someone is imaginative enough to twist that sentence into something it’s not?

And Im pretty sure the powers that be would have "checked" with their indigenous personnel...... really

 

[Kelce68]

Thoughts on Nick Meaney signing?....wing/center/fullback

Had some fair games for Doggies but there is better out there

I think wing is not a position that we need to go hard for anyone for. It should be capped at 600k for the 2 best in the game, possibly, but a serviceable winger who is safe and does their job will be sufficient. Sadly, we don't even have one of those for the second wing spot atm. I think that we could overcapitalise if we go too hard in that position and should rather put that money and effort elsewhere for greater return on investment. A Corey Thompson type in hindsight would stop gap us for now, obviously that ship has sailed. Let's look to the centres or a second strike edge.

I think we should wait a bit longer to see how Roberts continues to go on the wing. If he can regularly replicate last week's form I'd be happy to keep him on the wing next season (especially given his pretty low salary).

I agree, if he shows that he can handle the high ball, he's the perfect example of not overspending and getting value for money. That then opens up space to invest in other key or lacking areas. If he doesn't work out, a Kiah Cooper or Fitzgibbon-type would be preferential. I think a winger that does a decent job at 250k is better business every day of the week than a superstar winger on 630K.

... ergo Bulldogs recruitment.

 

[TigerSJ]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

 

[Russell]

So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !

Just a sidelight point:

Arrow has said and I quote - "The Tigers, I would rather go to live in Syria."

One of the best misses of in the West Tigers history - it is appropriate that he is now a "Souffs Scumbag."

And that's not a failure? ?

It is one persons opinion only.

 

[Russell]

I hope we have some recruitment targets outside of Gildart, Hastings, Dallin and Sam Burgess.

At least our recruitment will be a success if we sign them ?

First two yes, second two no.

 

[TheDaBoss]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

Gagau will go to donkeys imo, would love if se get giraffe

 

[yeahcaz]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

That’s not updated then as Crichton has re signed with the chooks

 

[Devon Head]

I see Hines has secured a $1.8m, 3 year deal with the Sharks?

He looks a good prospect, but I don’t think we would of entertained that sort of cash? What’s his best position?

Played U20's for Manly as a 5/8, played his juniors as a 5/8. Only recently in last couple of seasons has played a little FB since he joined Sunshine Coast Falcons in 2019.

 

[isaaktigers]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

Seb Kris got dominated by a 17 year old Sualli.. no thanks..

 

[avocadoontoast]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

Seb Kris got dominated by a 17 year old Sualli.. no thanks..

I don’t get the hype on him. He’s a horrible defender

 

[isaaktigers]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

Seb Kris got dominated by a 17 year old Sualli.. no thanks..

I don’t get the hype on him. He’s a horrible defender

Actually has been horrible..

Maybe people look at his Super Coach point and assume he’s a god?

 

[PJ_]

So sharks get hynes and good chance of finucane, dogs get ado Carr and Burton and we're looking at Dwz. ?
We must be the basket case of basket cases

Canterbury have tried to buy a team and are finding out the hard way that that's not how it works. We learnt that lesson a few years ago with Cleary. Addo-Carr and Burton are fine acquisitions but I much prefer the way we are going about recruitment.

Just because Ivan made some poor recruitment decisions doesn't mean you shouldn't target excellent, established players. Burton and Addo-Carr are excellent signings. They're getting rid of Dallin because they have signed players who are an upgrade on him. The fact Dallin would walk right into our team is an indictment of our backline recruitment.

Spot on.
Josh and Burton are great buys and would walk into our team. So would hynes.
We should be after finucane big time and if we miss out, questions should be asked. Especially if we are looking at dwz

You don't judge recruitment on players that you miss.

Why not?
You rate everything else to be a success on both ends of the equation, why not recruitment? If we are failing to sign players , we are doing something wrong.

You judge it on the players you do recruit as that is the only thing that is 100% in your control. Missing out on a player in not 100% in any clubs control.

So in regards to teams like Melbourne, souths, etc we are just as successful in our recruiting as we signed Hastings, Gillard??

We don't measure the latrell miss, ado Carr and any others we missed out on?

Seems like an excuse for mediocrity mate

You do realise that both those players, knocked us back and signed for less money with other clubs.

Here's the cruncher - the Tigers pulled their offer to each player.

That would indicate that we did not miss out on Latrine and JAC at all.

However you keep saying we did if it makes you feel better and it enhances your argument.

Let’s make this clear.

Latrell has said he didn’t want to come here because he wanted to craft into his fullback position, not hold the team together and look for him to make the big decision during the game..

Although I do agree the grub didn’t want to come here regardless, which is fine.. I never wanted him.

Jai Arrow has said:

"No disrespect to the Tigers, but the proud history of Souths and obviously Wayne Bennett and the coaching staff here is second-to-none,"

He chose south’s because he had been in the origin camp multiple times with Bennet and Dimitri.

As for Addo-Carr, most likely came down to money and paying $600K a year for what 4 years? For a winger that more or less has 2 years of his playing form before he declines.. I’d prefer to bring a new kid in for less..

We know what we need and I’m glad we’re not paying overs for duds in a few years.. ITS THE FUTURE !

Just a sidelight point:

Arrow has said and I quote - "The Tigers, I would rather go to live in Syria."

One of the best misses of in the West Tigers history - it is appropriate that he is now a "Souffs Scumbag."

And that's not a failure? ?

It is one persons opinion only.

Ok mate, let's leave it at that.
We're on the same side just differ in opinions.

 

[TigerWest]

I see Hines has secured a $1.8m, 3 year deal with the Sharks?

He looks a good prospect, but I don’t think we would of entertained that sort of cash? What’s his best position?

Played U20's for Manly as a 5/8, played his juniors as a 5/8. Only recently in last couple of seasons has played a little FB since he joined Sunshine Coast Falcons in 2019.

Then he doesn’t cover the positions we really want/need, he would have known that as well? Besides the fact we probably in a low ball offer?

Can always use good players, but not at any price, especially if they are not specialised in the those positions that we are after, imo.

Confident, we will get them eventually.

 

[Nelson]

So after checking on the Zero Tackle site for “players off contract 2021”, I reckon we should be targeting the following available players for our 2022 roster:
Centre- Seb Kris
Wing - Gagai, Garrick, Tupuo
Lock- Finucane
Second Row- A Crichton, Su’a

Throw in B Smith, Isaako and TPJ, as options, (if there is any real opportunity for any of them).

Whilst looking at these guys, we should also re-sign both Seyfarth and Mikaele asap. Leaves us 4-5 spots to try for any of the above players - I say throw whatever we can at getting any of this list.

Seb Kris got dominated by a 17 year old Sualli.. no thanks..

I don’t get the hype on him. He’s a horrible defender

Actually has been horrible..

Maybe people look at his Super Coach point and assume he’s a god?

No, he's terrible in SuperCoach so that's not it...

 

[Devon Head]

I see Hines has secured a $1.8m, 3 year deal with the Sharks?

He looks a good prospect, but I don’t think we would of entertained that sort of cash? What’s his best position?

Played U20's for Manly as a 5/8, played his juniors as a 5/8. Only recently in last couple of seasons has played a little FB since he joined Sunshine Coast Falcons in 2019.

Then he doesn’t cover the positions we really want/need, he would have known that as well? Besides the fact we probably in a low ball offer?

Can always use good players, but not at any price, especially if they are not specialised in the those positions that we are after, imo.

Confident, we will get them eventually.

As far as I'm aware Tigers didn't go anywhere near him as FB is locked in by Laurie and Doueihi considered the long term 6. I guess the only real possibility would have been Hynes at 6 however with AD, Madden and Hastings as options and Mbye not yet released it would have made little sense to throw in a 5th option.

 

[Roar_Power]

Go hard for Finucane. Very decent and can take over that leadership of the forwards once Tamou moves on. There had been talk of Tamou to ESL at the end of this season but I haven't see anything further on this...

 

[tigerap]

Sharks have told Woods he is not wanted for 2022 and will release him early if he can find another club...what a fall from grace for Sharon...he rubbished the WT on his way out, was let loose by the Dogs and failed to set the world on fire at the Sharks...was on about $800k at the Dogs, will be lucky to get a $400k contract, that's only if any club is interested in him...Oh yeah, please don't come home to finish your career either.