Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tcat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380327) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380301) said:
@tcat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380260) said:
@aj1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380210) said:
Interesting Isaako getting hooked last night. Seems like he has checked out. The more I think about it, Isaako to WT and Walters to Broncos is ready to happen however either Broncos or WT are trying to get something else out of the arrangement. I don't think WT are keen on DWZ however we are using him to get something more favourable out of the Broncos whether that is another player or $ reduction.

If WTs management were using a "supposed" interest in DWZ to play the Broncos for Isaako, I'd applaud our management. We need to be more ruthless in our recruitment and I'm hoping our days bending over a copping it up the clacker by other clubs are long gone.

“were using a "supposed" interest in DWZ to play the Broncos for Isaako, “

I hope not. They don’t want to be anything but believable during negotiations. Leave that sort of stuff to some player managers.

The "Supposed" interest in DWZ needs to send the message to the Broncos that we aren't sitting around waiting for their demands. It doesn't necessarily mean that we are behaving in a dodgy way like some player managers do tho. Negotiations are a game in themselves and we need to play things in our favour.

An enquiry can send a strong message and we need to have back up plans also

I agree with your view that discussion should be robust/aggressive to the point that there is no room for misunderstanding. Just not in favour of pretence, where trust is trying to be developed. It’s great to have choices in a buyers market, but surely there are other ways to create urgency when working in a sellers market. Just putting a different view up, it may not be the favoured process, just different.
 
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380341) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380201) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380198) said:
Just heard today from a reliable source that Issako to us this year will happen...

Take it how you will, great signing if true imo - much better player than what he’s showing

Sounds good, but reliable sources , tend to be unreliable. Hope this one is on the money.

IIRC it was @teddy23 that was the lone and first voice that had Tedesco confirmed at the chooks, so reasonably confident Isaako is on his way.

I’m not the type to flaunt rumours or sources, but I was notified that internally the Tigers are extremely confident they’ll get him.... Pangai is unlikely....

However, DWZ is someone they’re monitoring and apparently Madge is a huge fan of him.... will push for him if Issako deal breaks through, but Issako is the preference

Bunty Afo’a another name being floated around if Mikaele goes elsewhere
 
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?


Bunty Afo’a another name being floated around **IF** Mikaele goes elsewhere

Don’t stress just yet.
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380378) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?

Extension deal on cards Apprently

Yes this needs to be sorted ASAP before others come crawling.. Would be a great resigning and also need LL sorted.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380382) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380378) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?

Extension deal on cards Apprently

Yes this needs to be sorted ASAP before others come crawling.. Would be a great resigning and also need LL sorted.
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380148) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380125) said:
Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

What about Dufty always a danger withthe ball in hand lighting speed.5 try assist in last night game some of our backs don't do that in a season.

And don't forget the 4 he let in.
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380398) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380148) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380125) said:
Strange game from Isaako, id be watching this space.

Would rather him than DWZ

What about Dufty always a danger withthe ball in hand lighting speed.5 try assist in last night game some of our backs don't do that in a season.

And don't forget the 4 he let in.

Sounds just like Benji, score/setup 4 let in 5
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380378) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?

Extension deal on cards Apprently

Man its the signing suggestions and roumers thread. Not the loosing and regrets thread.....
 
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380380) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?


Bunty Afo’a another name being floated around **IF** Mikaele goes elsewhere

Don’t stress just yet.

Why not go for both?
 
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380403) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380380) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380377) said:
@teddy23 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380368) said:
Mikaele

Wait... Mikaele is going?


Bunty Afo’a another name being floated around **IF** Mikaele goes elsewhere

Don’t stress just yet.

Why not go for both?

Because we have enough invested in middle forwards for next year with Ofahengaue, Twal, Tamou, Utoikamanu, Musgrove, Simpkins and Mikaele/Seyfarth (if we re-sign them).
 
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380206) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380188) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1380120) said:
We need at least 1 winger, that’s if Lee’s lovechild is locked in. I think Laurie is doing a fine job at the back but he needs support from 2 solid wingers to improve our kick return metres. Every team is doing better than us in this part of our game.


No they're not. This might be your perception but the stats don't agree.

For Kick return metres, 'Lee's love child' is averaging 34.6m only slightly behind To'o on 35.7m. Behind him are Teddy, Walsh, RTS, Saab, Coates, Hynes, Rapana, Alex Johntson etc.

In run metres he's also averaging over 150m a game.

As you'd expect, Daine is ahead of Nofo in kick return metres (most fullbacks are as they return the ball more) but is behind Nofo in run metres.

Statistically, DWZ is way ahead of all our wingers and our fullback. Our kick return metres aren't our biggest problem.

how do you explain this?

![8216abbb-c13f-4eba-b288-7f2751aefb02-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1622763812779-8216abbb-c13f-4eba-b288-7f2751aefb02-image.png)

Doubt if anyone can explain it.

You have to be able to read it first.
 

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