Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468823) said:
Ciraldo -
Apparently a defensive mastermind ✅
Is well thought of at Penrith ✅
Young and will have fresh ideas and desire ✅
Will possibly have a better chance at attracting players ✅

If they punt Madge, which i think will happen, this is the only guy i want

we won't get Ciraldo he will not come here. Would like him to but can't ever see any of his mentors telling him yes go to the Tigers
it would be career suicide.
If he wants he can probably coach the dragons in a year or so
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468893) said:
Can we keep the signings and rumours thread for signings and rumours.

We have enough threads about the coach situation.

Signing a new coach isn’t a signing? 🤔
 
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468893) said:
Can we keep the signings and rumours thread for signings and rumours.

We have enough threads about the coach situation.

Signing a new coach isn’t a signing? ?


Debating if a player, lets say Talau should be replaced for four or five pages would be considered something that belongs in the Talau thread.

Same same.
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468812) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468789) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468783) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468780) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1466679) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1466644) said:
September and not one player signed from one of the other 15 NRL clubs

Enough said ....we are doomed

that would say nobody wants to play under Maguire

That has been reported by multiple media agencies, not just Chammis who the Madge fans won't believe because he apparently has some agenda, facts speak louder than words in regards to our lack of signings

So Madge leaves and we still can't buy players .....which is what will happen ...the CLUB as an entirety is the problem

I don't think that will be the way it plays out, a new coach if they appoint the right one, will attract players, we have money a new COE and a lot of promising juniors, we just need a decent coach

That’s why I like the idea of Ciraldo, how many good players in the Penrith system are road blocked. Also he comes with runs on the board in the defence department.

Of course there is every chance he would not come anywhere near us given the place is a coaches graveyard and our 2022 prospect look absolutely diabolical , but if you nail it as coach at the Tigers your set for life

That would be my first choice too, people say a younger coach won't succeed here, I actually think we need a younger coach, to connect with all our young players, and he is defence orientated with a connection to a huge junior base, ticks all the boxes for me
 
@kelce68 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468820) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468802) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468799) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468792) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468788) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468787) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468785) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468783) said:
@851 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468780) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1466679) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1466644) said:
September and not one player signed from one of the other 15 NRL clubs

Enough said ....we are doomed

that would say nobody wants to play under Maguire

That has been reported by multiple media agencies, not just Chammis who the Madge fans won't believe because he apparently has some agenda, facts speak louder than words in regards to our lack of signings

So Madge leaves and we still can't buy players .....which is what will happen ...the CLUB as an entirety is the problem

At least the new coach might get something out of the players we've got.

We need to get rid of 3/4 of the players we have ....

The roster isn't amazing but they are better than the performances show. Wouldn't take much to get them improving.

Nah ...they are mostly garbage mate ...if you were being honest at the beginning of the season we were a bottom 4 side .....we got what deserved .....we will be a bottom 2-3 in 2022 on current signings

Do you think he is he getting the best out of them?

I certainly don't, almost all the players have regressed

Doueihi, Laurie, Luch, Stefano, Talau, Lids.... all gone backwards since arriving at the club, eh?

Doueihi has not really improved greatly, Madge moved him around too much, Laurie just needed a run of games to show his talent, Luch is still a liability and Talau makes a stack of mistakes, so I am not overly impressed with that groups progress. And Madge didn't really use Stef much until he got picked in the origin squad, he dropped him and left other non performers in the side. Funny how after origin where he had some good coaching and belief in him, he came back a better player
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468893) said:
Can we keep the signings and rumours thread for signings and rumours.

We have enough threads about the coach situation.

Beat me to it!
 
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468896) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468893) said:
Can we keep the signings and rumours thread for signings and rumours.

We have enough threads about the coach situation.

Signing a new coach isn’t a signing? ?

If you stretch the friendship only ….. but really … there a threads on coaching issues more appropriate.
 
BJ Leilua looking to switch to prop to keep his NRL career alive: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-joey-leilua-wests-tigers-prop-switch-penrith-panthers-viliame-kikau-moses-leota-bulldogs-adam-elliott/news-story/0a900b6819ecc3152ced813079544972
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468980) said:
BJ Leilua looking to switch to prop to keep his NRL career alive: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-joey-leilua-wests-tigers-prop-switch-penrith-panthers-viliame-kikau-moses-leota-bulldogs-adam-elliott/news-story/0a900b6819ecc3152ced813079544972

Man he is looking for any reason to eat oporto.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468980) said:
BJ Leilua looking to switch to prop to keep his NRL career alive: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-joey-leilua-wests-tigers-prop-switch-penrith-panthers-viliame-kikau-moses-leota-bulldogs-adam-elliott/news-story/0a900b6819ecc3152ced813079544972

Doesn’t matter what position he plays, while his brain remains the same he’s a liability.
 
Its obvious that no player here in the NRL wants to come to us .. we have to look else where .. we have to do what Canberra did and look at England and players looking to try their hand in the NRL .. sure with Sheens on deck .. Hastings and Gildart as bait .. in trying to get other English players to us ..!!

I'm with Ben Elias (for once) that Sheens has to be appointed head coach .. does that mean we get rid of Madge and take a hit with paying him out .. ??
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468503) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468497) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468478) said:
@twentyforty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468456) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468417) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468413) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468411) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468408) said:
How do we only have 4 spots left for next year that's scary

The fact we’re likely keeping Cini and Roberts is the club waiving the white flag in terms of recruitment

They have to say no to cini and amone.

Amone and Mikaele are the same. Bog average.


Both those players have shown signs they could develop into keepers. imo.

Waiting for some of our players to make a contribution is like leaving the porch light on for Harold Holt.


It is. The alternative is just as painful.
I hope we stop signing players over the age of 27 unless they’re already at the club.
Does anyone know who is responsible for the club’s contractual obligations with new players? Who is ultimately responsible for signing a new player?

Worked for Cronulla with Ennis and Lewis. Just because we got burned by bad decisions once doesnt mean we have to quit making good decisions.

WT would kill for a duo like Ennis and Lewis right now. 2 competitive beasts who would certainly drive their teammates on and lead the way in every single aspect. Gallen and Wade Graham as well. It was no surprise those 4 were involved in their maiden premiership, they are all exceptional leaders. (Not withstanding that they were almost certainly operating outside the salary cap that year also).
 
BJ can't play prop in the NRL.
This is just an excuse for him to let himself go.

He could be a gun prop for local league stuff.
Shaqai Mitchell 2.0

Fat Park footy prop with a gun* brother.

* debatable.
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1468980) said:
BJ Leilua looking to switch to prop to keep his NRL career alive: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-joey-leilua-wests-tigers-prop-switch-penrith-panthers-viliame-kikau-moses-leota-bulldogs-adam-elliott/news-story/0a900b6819ecc3152ced813079544972

The bloke couldn't see out a game sitting on the bench let alone facing up in the middle for a few seconds

Career over you fraud go and line up at centrelink you weirdo that's where your future lies ( BJ that is )
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467777) said:
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1467739) said:
The biggest recruitment and retention failure we have had revolves around a lack of on field leadership.

We lost Benji Marshall, Chris Lawrence and Elijah Taylor in quick succession.

Other players we had looked at for leadership like Packer, Mautalino, Musgrave,McQueen, Thompson and a couple of others did not work out for one reason or another.

These players were never replaced. All we got was a washed up James Tahmou.

It has been an epic failure to understand what we had lost and do very little to replace it. Imo its the main reason we are where we are right now. A laughing stock!

Regardless of who coaches this mess not much will change without some on field leadership. For that reason we need at least 3 good quality on field leaders.More if we can release some contracted players who arent shaping up.

Hastings and Doueihi are what i would call on field leaders but we need to add to that.

Tariqu Sims is a must.

Luke Thompson and John Bateman would also help if we could fluke one of them.

The cupboard is pretty bare, we have left it too late to identify the problem.

Hopefully a couple more senior players are set to be shopped around, we sure as hell need them.

Good post.

That's the part I'm most disappointed in Maguire. His decision to let the likes of Corey Thompson and Elijah Taylor go, and fill their spots with players perhaps more athletic but miss the experience, football IQ, and work ethic.

By 2021 we had an unbalanced roster of overpaid non-performers and promising young players with no NRL experience. We solved the fullback problem and hooker was "less" of a problem than previous years (still not solved), but we lost footy smarts and players who worked hard and led by example.

We now have massive gaps in centre, lock andprobably wing. We also have a halfback who needs to move on but has 2 years to go on a big contract.

To be fair Maguire is cutting dead wood from previous coaches purchasing.
Yeah sure he signed Tamou and Roberts but he brought big stef over, signed Blore and Laurie.
And has been restricted by big money contracts for players he didn’t sign.
He’s only now(that packer and Mbye are gone)got the team he’s ready to work with, to mould and shape the kind of unit he wants.
Be honest with yourself, it was never going to happen overnight.
Penrith said 8 years ago a five year plan, look at them now.

sacking another coach and starting the whole process again is absolutely the wrong decision.
This system of blaming than coaches and expecting instant results is bloody stupid.
Give Madge the 2 more years he’s contracted, if it gets worse than so be it.
But it won’t get better having a new coach with new coaching staff burning a season getting to know players and attitudes and
 

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