@tigertownsfs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481659) said:@frullens said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481643) said:@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481642) said:@ccwt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481592) said:@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481586) said:@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481578) said:@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481573) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481544) said:@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481538) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481535) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481475) said:@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481474) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481472) said:@momo_amp_medo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1481460) said:I feel it my bones that somethings cooking that will be ready by the end of next week.
Or then again it could be just my Rheumatoid arthritis!
I remain positive Hartigan and Sheens can work it to attract some really good young players and maybe a capable vet to improve the roster.
Just plain childish, rude and ignorant to not mention the coach, fgs do you not think players and their managers won’t know.
You lost the battle, get over it.
One is GM of Football, the other Coaching Director and both senior to Maguire.
Deal with it.
I don't think anyone other than you @pawsandclaws1 needs to deal with it.
We all get it that you must be shattered that you could be so glaringly and obviously wrong through your prolonged and rubbish posts on here about the demise of Maguire.
But, to try to convince us all about some WT organisational structure that you have invented to ease your embarrassment is, in equal parts, funny and sad.
Paws is right though.
So, you're a "paws" apologist and fanboy. No surprise that you would think he is "right". He, and you, got it horribly wrong on the sacking of Maguire, so good luck with trying to convince us otherwise.
The problem is this - players aren't coming to the club to play under Hartigan - they're coming to play under Madge. And rightly or wrongly, he's about appealing as a holiday on Venus.
The question I have is then why have Hartigan recruiting players at all. Either they want to play under Maguire or they just want a pay cheque.
Sick of the Hartigan talk. From what I've seen he is just another part of the problem.
His position is just complicating the process
Well officially it's his role to lead those negotiations and identify player talent. In reality though, the players are going to be having a good think about who will be coaching them and Madge's reputation now precedes him unfortunately.
I honestly think that’s a myth. If players are looking for an opportunity or we pay them enough they will come here. It’s more a West’s Tigers reputation than a Madge one IMO
Madge certainly has something to do with it. I asked a mate of mine who is off contract at the end of this year if he'd consider coming to WT and he said not while Maguire is there.
I still say to that - if players don't want to play under made because he makes them train hard - the they are not the players we need at WT
But also think madge has made changes to how him operates over the last few years that doesn't fit the stereotype of him
Is it possible that players don’t want to be coached by Madge not because he trains them too hard but because the view is he can’t improve their game? And it can’t just be about our facilities, manly have equally terrible training facilities and Des just took them to a semi final
Des is just as intense as Maguire and also suffered from the game had past him lack of ideas etc after his stint at the Bulldogs. But Des happens to have a good roster with quality players in key positions - a blend of experienced leadership on the field and youth that is coming through. It makes a difference. Those key p l Ayers don't perform and they struggle despite the coach.