Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484028) said:
We’ll likely sign one of Sims, Elliott or Curtis Scott IMO and I have no goss.

The so called insiders are throwing darts.

Sign em all
💯
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483989) said:
If we are signing a player who is under contract its illegal for us to even speak to them about a contract until November 1 if we are we could get in some serious problems

We can talk to anyone we want. We just can't table an official offer. Brent Read said that the other day
 
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484037) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483989) said:
If we are signing a player who is under contract its illegal for us to even speak to them about a contract until November 1 if we are we could get in some serious problems

We can talk to anyone we want. We just can't table an official offer. Brent Read said that the other day

?
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484028) said:
We’ll likely sign one of Sims, Elliott or Curtis Scott IMO and I have no goss.

The so called insiders are throwing darts.

I’m throwing mine at Taumalolo 🤣
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483995) said:
@aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483991) said:
Yep that’s true paws , we should be happy that we have signed nobody at this stage , after all there is none worth signing apparently.So if it’s true that we waiting til Nov 1 to see if other clubs are under the pump from salary cap then that must be a good thing wouldn’t we think

We acquired Laurie and Blore in this manner. Both have turned out to be terrific acquisitions. I hope it is a similar young player of high quality, either a centre or second row forward.

A half back would be good ☺️
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484002) said:
I don't believe the Club would consider Elliott. We have lots of very good young fellows of various Kiwi and Pacific Island backgrounds who are men of faith. Unacceptable behaviour of that type would not be well received.

John Hopoate says hi
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483995) said:
@aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483991) said:
Yep that’s true paws , we should be happy that we have signed nobody at this stage , after all there is none worth signing apparently.So if it’s true that we waiting til Nov 1 to see if other clubs are under the pump from salary cap then that must be a good thing wouldn’t we think

We acquired Laurie and Blore in this manner. Both have turned out to be terrific acquisitions. I hope it is a similar young player of high quality, either a centre or second row forward.

Calling Blore terrific is a bit enthusiastic.
 
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484046) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483995) said:
@aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483991) said:
Yep that’s true paws , we should be happy that we have signed nobody at this stage , after all there is none worth signing apparently.So if it’s true that we waiting til Nov 1 to see if other clubs are under the pump from salary cap then that must be a good thing wouldn’t we think

We acquired Laurie and Blore in this manner. Both have turned out to be terrific acquisitions. I hope it is a similar young player of high quality, either a centre or second row forward.

Calling Blore terrific is a bit enthusiastic.

Outside of Blore’s debut when he bashed Brown, I haven’t seen much to get excited over.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484050) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484046) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483995) said:
@aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483991) said:
Yep that’s true paws , we should be happy that we have signed nobody at this stage , after all there is none worth signing apparently.So if it’s true that we waiting til Nov 1 to see if other clubs are under the pump from salary cap then that must be a good thing wouldn’t we think

We acquired Laurie and Blore in this manner. Both have turned out to be terrific acquisitions. I hope it is a similar young player of high quality, either a centre or second row forward.

Calling Blore terrific is a bit enthusiastic.

Outside of Blore’s debut when he bashed Brown, I haven’t seen much to get excited over.

X2
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483643) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483593) said:
@watersider said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483571) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483531) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483450) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483448) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483445) said:
@jai_donaldson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483380) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483373) said:
We were leading that game I believe , until he came on with chee kam . That 20 min stint literally lost us the game . Turbo went through his corridor repeatedly , so the other edge tightened , and they went through there instead . I’m not in the business of blaming sole players for losses , but he should not have been playing that game . Whether it was bad management from our medical team or him not being honest with himself about where his body was at , I don’t know , but that was not ok .
Speaking of which , so much was made of Gray and his supposed game changing performance team , but I gotta say , we were better u der the previous high performance team .
He sent us backwards if anything . We looked better for the calendar , but that’s about it .

To be honest I know little about the Tigers performance team past or present however I def felt many games we looked completely gassed at times. Whether it was the 15mins before halftime or the final 15mins of the game we just looked completely underdone fitness wise. Hard to believe when Madge is such a task master with his teams being super fit.

A lot comes down to their mental state too though and mental toughness. With a large number of the team very young they possibly haven't developed the mental toughness to play for 80mins every week. I personally find it tiresome and boring as hell to run drills and laps or go for distance runs however come game day I can easily pump out 80mins without a sub even at 39 so I doubt it's a physical fitness issue.

I feel the team might be better off looking at a sports psychologist of sorts to mentally prepare the players better, to start faster instead of lumbering into matches and only switching on when down by 24. Help the players recognize and distinguish the difference/triggers of mental fatigue over physical fatigue and help them find ways to push through it even under pressure.



I was talking years ago to some Canterbury players
When Des was coach and they had that run when they keep losing and they told me that Des was flogging them at training and the more they lost the more they got flog at training and they said on game day they had nothing in the tank

Keep hearing how much of a dinosaur and old school thinker Des is. Then I watch Manly storm into the finals.

Des completely lost the plot at the Dogs. It’s not that he lost it, he just needed to go away and lay on a beach with a cocktail and get his head back. He must have done it, cos he got it back when he returned to Manly.

2 Things- 1-Des lost it a Dogs cause he back ended contracts & took off before it came back to bite him(as he did to Manly before he left them & left poor old Tooves to pick up the mess))
2-Des did jack at Manly this year... It was no coincidence that Tom Trov returned & they started winning. They should change their name to the Manly Toms cause without him they lose.

Even if what you say is true, he created a club that was successful at Manly for a long time and won a premiership playing some of the best league I've seen. That's after they had looked like a bit of a mess before him. They had a few down years after he left and they're back now. Looking at how Barrett struggled there highlights what a quality job Hasler did. I also think Toovey was a good coach, but not a 'special one'. I think Hasler is an excellent coach. I'm sure he's made mistakes, and the Bulldogs really went sour, but he also took them to a grand final.

I completely agree that Turbo was the main reason Manly turned around their season and became a good side, but to me a coach needing good players is a given.

He was my preferred coach when Madge was hired. I also like Madge, but to me Hasler is in that class of coaches with Bennett, Robinson and Bellamy.

The points you make about Tooves & Barrett being unsuccessful i think highlights the size of the mess Hasler left behind. Just look at the mess Jason Taylor & Ivan Cleary left behind & we are still dealing with it. For mine, if a coach needs to backend contracts to gain an advantage , he isnt much of a coach.While Im not a fan of Melbourne & Roosters & believe they too gain unfair advantage from the cap, look what they have done & continue to do with "average" players. They turn them into very good players & sometimes great players. Thats good coaching. Clearly, if Hasler has to rely on Turbo to get wins , who is really coaching the side? Hasler doesnt have a winning gameplan that doesnt include Turbo. Look at Bennett losing Latrell. Souths still winning. That is a good coach.
Sorry mate, I will have to agree to disagree with on this on this one.

I dont understand the hatred or disrespect for Hasler. I can see and understand that he screwed over the Salary Cap at Bulldogs.

Barrett took a Manly team very similar to the current one to 15th in 2018 and Turbo played 22 games. The very next year Hasler took the same team to 6th and Turbo only played 12 games.

I agree Tiger, I just look at his record and his premiership win and his strike rate of making the 8 and the way players love him and his funny disinterest in press conferences and see a coach who has something special about him. But I'm glad sometimes this wests tigers forum doesn't make the decisions.
 
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483945) said:
Kikau's manager came out today actually and said he's willing to stay at the panthers on a cut pay but if its anything lower than 500k hes walking

hahaha what a rubbish manager.
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484024) said:
@hugh1954 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483938) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483937) said:
Maybe the Tigers can take the NRL by surprise and sign no NRL first grade players be a true underdog for season 2022














Waiting to announcements until after the G/F so that it doesnt upset the players in the G/F who are comming to the Tigers

Where did all the Spencer Lenui talk come from (a couple of weeks back)?
Maybe he's a player we have tabled an offer to.

He's got one year left on his contract, on 300k. Mostly featured off the bench, playing 10-20 mins a game and wants more. Panthers have reportedly admitted they might need to cut him loose and re-sign two youngsters on 150k instead.

He's very close to Blore, and also mates with Laurie and I think played junior reps with Stefano too.

He's quite attainable. Offer him 400-425 for the next two years with an option and get the boys to put in a good word. Then push for immediate release.
 
@hugh1954 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483930) said:
This thread is like getting the last out of my toothpaste tube..... please Tigers give us something to knaw on

Except it would be far easier to get a new tube of toothpaste than a quality ...no nonsense NRL forward

But our recruitment wouldn't know a good player if they jumped on their faces and wriggled .....
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484073) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484024) said:
@hugh1954 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483938) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483937) said:
Maybe the Tigers can take the NRL by surprise and sign no NRL first grade players be a true underdog for season 2022














Waiting to announcements until after the G/F so that it doesnt upset the players in the G/F who are comming to the Tigers

Where did all the Spencer Lenui talk come from (a couple of weeks back)?
Maybe he's a player we have tabled an offer to.

He's got one year left on his contract, on 300k. Mostly featured off the bench, playing 10-20 mins a game and wants more. Panthers have reportedly admitted they might need to cut him loose and re-sign two youngsters on 150k instead.

He's very close to Blore, and also mates with Laurie and I think played junior reps with Stefano too.

He's quite attainable. Offer him 400-425 for the next two years with an option and get the boys to put in a good word. Then push for immediate release.

Is he that good though? Do we need a small front rower? Maybe. Still an upgrade of who we have currently
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484073) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484024) said:
@hugh1954 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483938) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483937) said:
Maybe the Tigers can take the NRL by surprise and sign no NRL first grade players be a true underdog for season 2022














Waiting to announcements until after the G/F so that it doesnt upset the players in the G/F who are comming to the Tigers

Where did all the Spencer Lenui talk come from (a couple of weeks back)?
Maybe he's a player we have tabled an offer to.

He's got one year left on his contract, on 300k. Mostly featured off the bench, playing 10-20 mins a game and wants more. Panthers have reportedly admitted they might need to cut him loose and re-sign two youngsters on 150k instead.

He's very close to Blore, and also mates with Laurie and I think played junior reps with Stefano too.

He's quite attainable. Offer him 400-425 for the next two years with an option and get the boys to put in a good word. Then push for immediate release.

Except he is signed till 23.
https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2020/12/18/leniu-signs-new-panthers-deal/
 
@hugh1954 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483930) said:
This thread is like getting the last out of my toothpaste tube..... please Tigers give us something to knaw on

I am really thinking that the whole of Wests Tigers management group, Madge, Pascoe and Hartigan have begun their holidays and won't be back until early 2022. Sheens hasn't any holidays but is stuck in the U.K. until possibly early l2022 as well. I also get the feeling that they don't care either.
 
@the_patriot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484041) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483995) said:
@aceshigh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483991) said:
Yep that’s true paws , we should be happy that we have signed nobody at this stage , after all there is none worth signing apparently.So if it’s true that we waiting til Nov 1 to see if other clubs are under the pump from salary cap then that must be a good thing wouldn’t we think

We acquired Laurie and Blore in this manner. Both have turned out to be terrific acquisitions. I hope it is a similar young player of high quality, either a centre or second row forward.

A half back would be good ☺️

A new team would be good.
 
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1484027) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1483950) said:
So would this playa be for 2022 or 2023?

It will be some washed up dud and it will be for 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026 player option.

Glady's is looking for a new job.
 

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