Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Geo]


Fogarty's manager earning his money with this one. Three years for Fogarty is incredible deal for him, not so much the Raiders.

Oh well that takes Brooks out of there plans.. we are struck with him I think

Was Brooks in their plans..?

 

[weststigerman]


Fogarty's manager earning his money with this one. Three years for Fogarty is incredible deal for him, not so much the Raiders.

Oh well that takes Brooks out of there plans.. we are struck with him I think

Unfortunately no one wants to touch Brooks. Cowboys, Broncos and Canberra all decided to go in a different direction.

Says it all really when Cowboys preferred to go after Dearden than Brooks.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What’s funny about the hate on Brooks is that his bashers are in a constant state of shock how no other clubs want to go near him and we’re stuck with him

 

[finnzo]

Contracts still mean something just look at Melbourne every time a player wants an early release from a contract they never give let them go. It only means nothing of the clubs let it mean nothing

It goes both ways though. I wonder if they had MBye on 900k whether they would consider releasing him early?

There not that stupid to sign him on that much but haha

 

[hsvjones]


Fogarty's manager earning his money with this one. Three years for Fogarty is incredible deal for him, not so much the Raiders.

Oh well that takes Brooks out of there plans.. we are struck with him I think

Was Brooks in their plans..?

Apparently they were but maybe they wanted us to pay all the freight. I think Fogarty would be a lot cheaper then Brooks and more consistent.

 

[Swordy]

If I'm right, Stefano signed something around $260 a year. He has had year one and is about to enter year two. We should get the benefit of the bargain signing in the second year and then upgrade him for the third and beyond.

I would upgrade year 3 to $400, and then extend two more at $500. I think that's pretty fair and doesn't impact the cap too much if it all turns to defecant

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-brisbane-expansion-team-targets-cody-walker-ash-taylor-christian-welch-reed-mahoney-tariq-sims/news-story/657d1421f5dacb51d183b85875af3948

Players available?

The expansion team is not good news for our recruitment or retention

That’s the same for every other club. We are actually one of the clubs with the least to lose. Melbourne, and the other Queensland clubs will be impacted more by this.

Its worse for us because we can't recruit anyone decent as it is. It will only make it harder.

Have Lomax and Leinu clocked in at Concord yet? I've been away for the morning. I thought I'd missed a moment.

 

[aturkey]

What’s funny about the hate on Brooks is that his bashers are in a constant state of shock how no other clubs want to go near him and we’re stuck with him

Wait... how is this funny? This is the brutal reality that we are stuck with a bad halfback that no other team wants. What would shock me more is if a team actually wanted him, since everyone says he has this hidden, unlocked potential... yet here we are, and he's stuck with us again.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What’s funny about the hate on Brooks is that his bashers are in a constant state of shock how no other clubs want to go near him and we’re stuck with him

Wait... how is this funny? This is the brutal reality that we are stuck with a bad halfback that no other team wants. What would shock me more is if a team actually wanted him, since everyone says he has this hidden, unlocked potential... yet here we are, and he's stuck with us again.

I mean everyone thought it was a given he’d be moved on after the Dogs game. It took a while, but I think it’s finally sunk in that isn’t happening

 

[pawsandclaws1]


Fogarty's manager earning his money with this one. Three years for Fogarty is incredible deal for him, not so much the Raiders.

Oh well that takes Brooks out of there plans.. we are struck with him I think

Was Brooks in their plans..?

Apparently they were but maybe they wanted us to pay all the freight. I think Fogarty would be a lot cheaper then Brooks and more consistent.

Fogarty was at the Eels and went bust. He doesn't like Sydney and that is why he is at the Raiders.

 

[Swordy]

Contracts still mean something just look at Melbourne every time a player wants an early release from a contract they never give let them go. It only means nothing of the clubs let it mean nothing

I think the difference is at Melbourne they have several players that fit the word leadership. Any player staying on and kicking rocks would be taken behind the sheds and a discussion will take place. So they dont drag their heels.

Most other clubs, they dont have that self enforcement.

 

[gregjm87]

Who does everyone think would be 1-2 'gamechanger' recruits for us this off-season? Gamechanger as in have the potential to alter the course of our future through leadership, x-factor, culture etc. Have to realistic too, either off contract or has been murmurings that they could be released/exchanged.

I've mentioned 2 in a previous post ... ZAC LOMAX & JOSH HODGSON.

Lomax - we need a good centre offensively & defensively, great goalkicker, can play fullback as well, hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Hodgson - tough as nails, will help sure up our middle, experienced, provides leadership, mentor for our young hookers in Simpkin, Rua, Tannous, Anjoul etc, has that bit of mongrel about him which we need, I feel he'd combine well with Hastings/Douehi. The offset to this is Liddle being released.

Not sure why this thread continually throws up Lomax as "realistic". But dont think either would be game changers for us. Yes we need an upgrade at centre but until we start winning the forward battle it wont matter who our centres are. Also our biggest weakness in the backline is defensive reads of which Lomax isn't much of an improvement.
Hodgson i think is just past his use by date both in how he plays and how the game is now played.

As far as players we could should target.
2 players available immediately, though neither really 'game changers'.
Edrick Lee is a good player without a contract that would be cheap and be a good wing option.
Brock Gardner is off contract. He is a young first grade ready back rower who has had his last couple years ruined by injury and Covid. Would be able to pick him up on a minimum wage contract.

Isaiah Papallii / Marata Niukore Both off contract end of 22. On a small contract and cap pressure on eels means unlikely to upgrade both.

David Klemmer On big money at Knights but may have been surpassed by both Saifiti's there so no value for money them. Still 2 years to run on his contract Newcastle may pay some freight on his final year.

Tom Gilbert Off contract end of 22. I personally reckon he is a future star forward with an excellent work rate. Shuffled between bench and starting forward at Cowboys, not sure they know what they have and will always be second fiddle to Taumalolo there.

Phillip Sami Off contract end of 22 and has been shuffled around the Titans backline. Would be a starting centre or winger for us.

If we could get one of the above forwards and one of the below forwards I think we suddenly have a very capable pack with a little bit of depth. Then maybe we will actually be able to assess how bad or good our backline stocks are.

Some other younger players that probably arent getting enough game time at their current club that are off contract end of 22: Oregon Kaufusi, Pasami Saulo (either of these 2 could be a good long term front row partner for Utoikamanu). Keenan Palasia would be used off the bench both on an edge to give Leilua the rest during games he so clearly needs and in the front row rotation. Jack Howarth only about to turn 19 and potentially not quite ready yet but could do worse than having him as a starting centre before he transitions into a backrower as he physically develops. Will be years before he gets a start at Melbourne but has been one of the standout juniors at every age level.

 

[Needaname]

@gregjm87 Saulo didn’t get much game time because he had a horrific fracture of his ankle early in the season in a KOE game v Canberra.
Made his Debut though later in the season. Huge effort.

 

[tony soprano]

Who does everyone think would be 1-2 'gamechanger' recruits for us this off-season? Gamechanger as in have the potential to alter the course of our future through leadership, x-factor, culture etc. Have to realistic too, either off contract or has been murmurings that they could be released/exchanged.

I've mentioned 2 in a previous post ... ZAC LOMAX & JOSH HODGSON.

Lomax - we need a good centre offensively & defensively, great goalkicker, can play fullback as well, hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Hodgson - tough as nails, will help sure up our middle, experienced, provides leadership, mentor for our young hookers in Simpkin, Rua, Tannous, Anjoul etc, has that bit of mongrel about him which we need, I feel he'd combine well with Hastings/Douehi. The offset to this is Liddle being released.

Not sure why this thread continually throws up Lomax as "realistic". But dont think either would be game changers for us. Yes we need an upgrade at centre but until we start winning the forward battle it wont matter who our centres are. Also our biggest weakness in the backline is defensive reads of which Lomax isn't much of an improvement.
Hodgson i think is just past his use by date both in how he plays and how the game is now played.

As far as players we could should target.
2 players available immediately, though neither really 'game changers'.
Edrick Lee is a good player without a contract that would be cheap and be a good wing option.
Brock Gardner is off contract. He is a young first grade ready back rower who has had his last couple years ruined by injury and Covid. Would be able to pick him up on a minimum wage contract.

Isaiah Papallii / Marata Niukore Both off contract end of 22. On a small contract and cap pressure on eels means unlikely to upgrade both.

David Klemmer On big money at Knights but may have been surpassed by both Saifiti's there so no value for money them. Still 2 years to run on his contract Newcastle may pay some freight on his final year.

Tom Gilbert Off contract end of 22. I personally reckon he is a future star forward with an excellent work rate. Shuffled between bench and starting forward at Cowboys, not sure they know what they have and will always be second fiddle to Taumalolo there.

Phillip Sami Off contract end of 22 and has been shuffled around the Titans backline. Would be a starting centre or winger for us.

If we could get one of the above forwards and one of the below forwards I think we suddenly have a very capable pack with a little bit of depth. Then maybe we will actually be able to assess how bad or good our backline stocks are.

Some other younger players that probably arent getting enough game time at their current club that are off contract end of 22: Oregon Kaufusi, Pasami Saulo (either of these 2 could be a good long term front row partner for Utoikamanu). Keenan Palasia would be used off the bench both on an edge to give Leilua the rest during games he so clearly needs and in the front row rotation. Jack Howarth only about to turn 19 and potentially not quite ready yet but could do worse than having him as a starting centre before he transitions into a backrower as he physically develops. Will be years before he gets a start at Melbourne but has been one of the standout juniors at every age level.

Josh balin would be great.

 

[Nelson]

Who does everyone think would be 1-2 'gamechanger' recruits for us this off-season? Gamechanger as in have the potential to alter the course of our future through leadership, x-factor, culture etc. Have to realistic too, either off contract or has been murmurings that they could be released/exchanged.

I've mentioned 2 in a previous post ... ZAC LOMAX & JOSH HODGSON.

Lomax - we need a good centre offensively & defensively, great goalkicker, can play fullback as well, hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Hodgson - tough as nails, will help sure up our middle, experienced, provides leadership, mentor for our young hookers in Simpkin, Rua, Tannous, Anjoul etc, has that bit of mongrel about him which we need, I feel he'd combine well with Hastings/Douehi. The offset to this is Liddle being released.

I think the best we could realistically hope for would be Leniu if he's squeezed out at Penrith or Marata Niukore if he's squeezed out at Parra. Ideally we would want Isaiah Papali'i from Parra and Kikau from Penrith - and I think we should approach both come Nov 1 - but they will likely be retained by their own clubs. Papali'i was an absolute beast this season and Kikau makes his edge that much more threatening just by his presence.

 

[Tiger5150]

Who does everyone think would be 1-2 'gamechanger' recruits for us this off-season? Gamechanger as in have the potential to alter the course of our future through leadership, x-factor, culture etc. Have to realistic too, either off contract or has been murmurings that they could be released/exchanged.

I've mentioned 2 in a previous post ... ZAC LOMAX & JOSH HODGSON.

Lomax - we need a good centre offensively & defensively, great goalkicker, can play fullback as well, hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Hodgson - tough as nails, will help sure up our middle, experienced, provides leadership, mentor for our young hookers in Simpkin, Rua, Tannous, Anjoul etc, has that bit of mongrel about him which we need, I feel he'd combine well with Hastings/Douehi. The offset to this is Liddle being released.

I think the best we could realistically hope for would be Leniu if he's squeezed out at Penrith or Marata Niukore if he's squeezed out at Parra. Ideally we would want Isaiah Papali'i from Parra and Kikau from Penrith - and I think we should approach both come Nov 1 - but they will likely be retained by their own clubs. Papali'i was an absolute beast this season and Kikau makes his edge that much more threatening just by his presence.

Kikau is a no from me. Has the capacity to be incredibly destructive but also the capacity to bludge which is less significant in that Pamfers pack. Would cost us a bomb to get across and I see massive potential for expensive buyers regret. Let him stay there and force the likes of Leniu out.

 

[yeahcaz]

Far out there’s some brainless idiots at the helm of this club. While we’re scratching our heads and “waiting” for targets to just fall on our laps, Canberra negotiate a deal with Jamal Fogarty for barely 300k a year for 3 years. Not like our halves a mess and we lack leaders

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Far out there’s some brainless idiots at the helm of this club. While we’re scratching our heads and “waiting” for targets to just fall on our laps, Canberra negotiate a deal with Jamal Fogarty for barely 300k a year for 3 years. Not like our halves a mess and we lack leaders

Relax bra, Hastings will solve all our problems.

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Who does everyone think would be 1-2 'gamechanger' recruits for us this off-season? Gamechanger as in have the potential to alter the course of our future through leadership, x-factor, culture etc. Have to realistic too, either off contract or has been murmurings that they could be released/exchanged.

I've mentioned 2 in a previous post ... ZAC LOMAX & JOSH HODGSON.

Lomax - we need a good centre offensively & defensively, great goalkicker, can play fullback as well, hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Hodgson - tough as nails, will help sure up our middle, experienced, provides leadership, mentor for our young hookers in Simpkin, Rua, Tannous, Anjoul etc, has that bit of mongrel about him which we need, I feel he'd combine well with Hastings/Douehi. The offset to this is Liddle being released.

I think the best we could realistically hope for would be Leniu if he's squeezed out at Penrith or Marata Niukore if he's squeezed out at Parra. Ideally we would want Isaiah Papali'i from Parra and Kikau from Penrith - and I think we should approach both come Nov 1 - but they will likely be retained by their own clubs. Papali'i was an absolute beast this season and Kikau makes his edge that much more threatening just by his presence.

Kikau is a no from me. Has the capacity to be incredibly destructive but also the capacity to bludge which is less significant in that Pamfers pack. Would cost us a bomb to get across and I see massive potential for expensive buyers regret. Let him stay there and force the likes of Leniu out.

X2

Seems like a knob too

 

[Tiger5150]

Far out there’s some brainless idiots at the helm of this club. While we’re scratching our heads and “waiting” for targets to just fall on our laps, Canberra negotiate a deal with Jamal Fogarty for barely 300k a year for 3 years. Not like our halves a mess and we lack leaders

You wanted Jamal Fogarty here?