Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

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Tolman knockers :bash read and weep
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Comparisons made against our 7 best forwards

Tolman
Appearances for 2017 24 1st
Trys 1 equal 4th
Tackle breaks 15 3rd
Average hit ups game 12.6 1st

Post contact meters 1011 1st 297 more than any tiger

Ofloads 14 2nd

Tackles 909 1st and 429 more than any tiger
Tackle efficiency 92.8% 2nd
Run meters per game 117.5 3rd
A clear upgrade on any of our forwards
I would prefer latrell Mitchell to but it ain't going to happen

See here's the thing, Des used to carry around a giant stats book with him, and in his world (which is not necessarily the real world), Tolman is the best prop in the game, which quite frankly is rubbish. He's not the type of forward we need, we're ok for props, we need a world class backrower.

I agree stats aren't everything but they do help
Every coach uses them to try and get better out of their players and it shows them where they need to improve
But what would Des know
He only won two Grandfinals as coach with Manly in 2008 and 2011
He also took the Bulldogs to 2 Grandfinals and a minor premiership not to mention other final appearances
Not sure what's better
Winning a grand final in 2005 and one other finals appearance or Des'es record
 
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Tolman knockers :bash read and weep
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Comparisons made against our 7 best forwards

Tolman
Appearances for 2017 24 1st
Trys 1 equal 4th
Tackle breaks 15 3rd
Average hit ups game 12.6 1st

Post contact meters 1011 1st 297 more than any tiger

Ofloads 14 2nd

Tackles 909 1st and 429 more than any tiger
Tackle efficiency 92.8% 2nd
Run meters per game 117.5 3rd
A clear upgrade on any of our forwards
I would prefer latrell Mitchell to but it ain't going to happen

Des? Is that you?

No it's Dean Pay
He can't tackle
He can't make meters
He can't play big minutes
He is always injured
He just can't do his job
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Your a stats merchant that doesn’t watch footy. Tolman is the worst prop in the NRL.
Kev Naiqama would be better hitting it up after Klemmer, Kasiano, Graham.
Put him at the Tigers last year and the dogs forwards would have ended his career.
 
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Tolman knockers :bash read and weep
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Comparisons made against our 7 best forwards

Tolman
Appearances for 2017 24 1st
Trys 1 equal 4th
Tackle breaks 15 3rd
Average hit ups game 12.6 1st

Post contact meters 1011 1st 297 more than any tiger

Ofloads 14 2nd

Tackles 909 1st and 429 more than any tiger
Tackle efficiency 92.8% 2nd
Run meters per game 117.5 3rd
A clear upgrade on any of our forwards
I would prefer latrell Mitchell to but it ain't going to happen

Des? Is that you?

No it's Dean Pay
He can't tackle
He can't make meters
He can't play big minutes
He is always injured
He just can't do his job
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Your a stats merchant that doesn’t watch footy. Tolman is the worst prop in the NRL.
Kev Naiqama would be better hitting it up after Klemmer, Kasiano, Graham.
Put him at the Tigers last year and the dogs forwards would have ended his career.
 
We dont need a frontrower.

A fullback and a rep 2nd rower is what we need now.

Why help Bulldogs with there salary cap? Lrt them suffer.
 
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We dont need a frontrower.

A fullback and a rep 2nd rower is what we need now.

Why help Bulldogs with there salary cap? Lrt them suffer.

Cant see how we need a 2nd rower.

Aloia and Eisenhuth are top class.

Lawrence and Taylor are very solid. McQueen has been class when fit.

Depth through guys like Chee Kham and Rochow.

Marsters and Milne could both end up in the backrow once Taylor and Lawrence move on.

We need an Origin level fullback, centre or halfback.

Thats it.
 
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Came here because of Pies..

On signings..I don't believe we are paying Sironen and 1 of the development players will be elevated to an NRL contract as No. 29…

So what's happening? who is the 29th player?
 
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There is life on Mars :brick:

I thought Geo was from there.

Cant be. There's no pies there

Came here because of Pies..

On signings..I don't believe we are paying Sironen and 1 of the development players will be elevated to an NRL contract as No. 29…

My information, and I believe it to be accurate, is that we are paying C Sironen money and he does count as a top 30 player. Matt Ballin also counts but gets no money out of our cap.
 
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We dont need a frontrower.

A fullback and a rep 2nd rower is what we need now.

Why help Bulldogs with there salary cap? Lrt them suffer.

Cant see how we need a 2nd rower.

Aloia and Eisenhuth are top class.

Lawrence and Taylor are very solid. McQueen has been class when fit.

Depth through guys like Chee Kham and Rochow.

Marsters and Milne could both end up in the backrow once Taylor and Lawrence move on.

We need an Origin level fullback, centre or halfback.

Thats it.

Eisenhuth is good. Hel be lock hopefully. I like Ailoia and hope that Ivan gives him plenty of game time this year but none of the 2nd rowers are world class. I just hope who Ivan puts in there maintains a better defensive system then we have been sing the last few years. Packer, Twal and Matulino are great defensively so if the 2nd rowers are defensively sound then we wont have our centres racing infield everytime because they are cutting off a overlap.

I hope next year we will have a backrow of Taylor,Ailoia and Eisenhuth starting every game.
 
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I thought Geo was from there.

Cant be. There's no pies there

Came here because of Pies..

On signings..I don't believe we are paying Sironen and 1 of the development players will be elevated to an NRL contract as No. 29…

My information, and I believe it to be accurate, is that we are paying C Sironen money and he does count as a top 30 player. Matt Ballin also counts but gets no money out of our cap.

So if we signed Barba, he would be the 30th player?
 
Morgan inks five-year Cowboys deal
https://www.cowboys.com.au/news/2018/03/02/morgan-inks-five-year-cowboys-deal/

No mention how much coin but rumors are around 1 mil
 
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Cant be. There's no pies there

Came here because of Pies..

On signings..I don't believe we are paying Sironen and 1 of the development players will be elevated to an NRL contract as No. 29…

My information, and I believe it to be accurate, is that we are paying C Sironen money and he does count as a top 30 player. Matt Ballin also counts but gets no money out of our cap.

So if we signed Barba, he would be the 30th player?

My understanding it would be our 29th as this is just an exemption to give us more time as these rules are just coming in. There is another club with an exemption but I cant remember who it was.
 

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