Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@nuggetron said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505263) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505250) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505243) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505241) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505218) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

What would you base your point allocations on?


Did they play junior football for the club - reduces points
Did they play 1st grade for another club - increases points
Did they play their first grade game at another club - small points increase
Did they play State of Origin - increases points
Did they play for Australia or another tier 1 country - increases points
Did they play play for a 2nd Tier country - increases points
How many games/years have they played for the club - gradually reduces points
Did father or siblings play for the club - reduces points
A marquee allowance for 1-2 players - reduces points
Did they come from another senior sport (rugby/atletics etc) - no point increase
There were others but I can't remember off the top of my head

Thats a few starting ideas - I know there are many issues with this but it was just an attempt to find a workable solution

When I did the comparison between the Tigers and Rooster, the Roosters points were @ double of the Tigers

Points for internationals and origin are extremely problematic. There is also no mechanism in your allocation for differentiating skill level of players.


Yeah my solution for internationals and origin players would a gradual roll back of points. It would depend on how many games they played e.g. 1-5, or 5-10 etc and how long ago they were played. Eg if a player had not played at that level for 4 years no points would be added if it was 2 years it would be 50% point allocation if it was last year it would be 100% points allocation. Skill level of players is really dictated by what grades they have played and how many games also if they have played any rep games.



For me. I would drop TPAs. Allocate the salary to each team and have an additional fund which is given to the bottom 3 teams go help them get up the ladder. Similar to nfl getting the draft pick order.
Sure there may be some teams who tank but it's more fair than the TPA system we have now


Mmm? An incentive to run bottom of the ladder? Do you think the good teams will complain that this rule unfairly favours WT? ?
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505293) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

Are you able to share anything?
Never mind just saw your reply
 
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505290) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505257) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505246) said:
Any word on Isaiah Papali'i since this report...

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-2022-future-of-parramatta-eels-forward-isaiah-papalii-up-in-air-as-wests-tigers-circle/9786724b-83b0-4bd8-9448-a7116eabc626

Would be a real coup for us.

@Tiger-Tarl only thing that @THE_POM mentioned was that a couple days ago we sat down with him and his manager and apparently he’s keen on joining the club but yesterday he had another meeting with Parramatta and they did up the offer to what was originally offered to him but he thinks it still doesn’t match our offer so the ball is in Isaiah’s court now as to where he wants to go hopefully we can snag him though

From an article in yesterday's SMH by Michael Chammas; "Parramatta may also need to up the offer to back-rower of the year Isaiah Papali'l. He has been offerred an upgrade of $75,000 for his 2022 contract, plus $425,000 fir the next two years. Wests tigers have expressed an interest in Papal'l and have discussed spending up to $600,000 on him,. The Tigers are refusing to pay Leilua's asking price of $700,000 and see Papail'las a better values alternative at that price.

Papalil's prerence is to remain at the Eels who now the money to up his offer."

Which article was that from?
 
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505299) said:
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505290) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505257) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505246) said:
Any word on Isaiah Papali'i since this report...

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-2022-future-of-parramatta-eels-forward-isaiah-papalii-up-in-air-as-wests-tigers-circle/9786724b-83b0-4bd8-9448-a7116eabc626

Would be a real coup for us.

@Tiger-Tarl only thing that @THE_POM mentioned was that a couple days ago we sat down with him and his manager and apparently he’s keen on joining the club but yesterday he had another meeting with Parramatta and they did up the offer to what was originally offered to him but he thinks it still doesn’t match our offer so the ball is in Isaiah’s court now as to where he wants to go hopefully we can snag him though

From an article in yesterday's SMH by Michael Chammas; "Parramatta may also need to up the offer to back-rower of the year Isaiah Papali'l. He has been offerred an upgrade of $75,000 for his 2022 contract, plus $425,000 fir the next two years. Wests tigers have expressed an interest in Papal'l and have discussed spending up to $600,000 on him,. The Tigers are refusing to pay Leilua's asking price of $700,000 and see Papail'las a better values alternative at that price.

Papalil's prerence is to remain at the Eels who now have the money to up his offer."

Which article was that from?

From Michael Chammas Page 52 Sydney Moring Herald Friday November 12 2021
 
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505301) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505299) said:
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505290) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505257) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505246) said:
Any word on Isaiah Papali'i since this report...

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-2022-future-of-parramatta-eels-forward-isaiah-papalii-up-in-air-as-wests-tigers-circle/9786724b-83b0-4bd8-9448-a7116eabc626

Would be a real coup for us.

@Tiger-Tarl only thing that @THE_POM mentioned was that a couple days ago we sat down with him and his manager and apparently he’s keen on joining the club but yesterday he had another meeting with Parramatta and they did up the offer to what was originally offered to him but he thinks it still doesn’t match our offer so the ball is in Isaiah’s court now as to where he wants to go hopefully we can snag him though

From an article in yesterday's SMH by Michael Chammas; "Parramatta may also need to up the offer to back-rower of the year Isaiah Papali'l. He has been offerred an upgrade of $75,000 for his 2022 contract, plus $425,000 fir the next two years. Wests tigers have expressed an interest in Papal'l and have discussed spending up to $600,000 on him,. The Tigers are refusing to pay Leilua's asking price of $700,000 and see Papail'las a better values alternative at that price.

Papalil's prerence is to remain at the Eels who now have the money to up his offer."

Which article was that from?

From Michael Chammas Page 52 Sydney Moring Herald Friday November 12 2021

See its hard for them because they have a lot of players off contract they aren’t gonna keep them all just have to hope he’s one that doesn’t stay
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505169) said:
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505080) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505070) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505033) said:
It's painful always clicking on this thread and not getting any positive news

Yeah if it isn't 30 pages in a day ....don't open .....bad news on the doorstep ....I couldn't one more step .....

Normally after a Pom offering we get about 10 pages of instant activity, but even he did not stir up much interest today.
Sadly you have to be realistic, we were absolutely terrible last year and have basically got the same squad..so what’s to get excited about

Nobody said you had to get excited. Personally I think that's been part of the issue with Tigers, people getting over-excited about a club that has consistently proven to be below average.

Your over rating us with the below average ...far from below average
 
@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505271) said:
@nuggetron said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505263) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505250) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505243) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505241) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505218) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

What would you base your point allocations on?


Did they play junior football for the club - reduces points
Did they play 1st grade for another club - increases points
Did they play their first grade game at another club - small points increase
Did they play State of Origin - increases points
Did they play for Australia or another tier 1 country - increases points
Did they play play for a 2nd Tier country - increases points
How many games/years have they played for the club - gradually reduces points
Did father or siblings play for the club - reduces points
A marquee allowance for 1-2 players - reduces points
Did they come from another senior sport (rugby/atletics etc) - no point increase
There were others but I can't remember off the top of my head

Thats a few starting ideas - I know there are many issues with this but it was just an attempt to find a workable solution

When I did the comparison between the Tigers and Rooster, the Roosters points were @ double of the Tigers

Points for internationals and origin are extremely problematic. There is also no mechanism in your allocation for differentiating skill level of players.


Yeah my solution for internationals and origin players would a gradual roll back of points. It would depend on how many games they played e.g. 1-5, or 5-10 etc and how long ago they were played. Eg if a player had not played at that level for 4 years no points would be added if it was 2 years it would be 50% point allocation if it was last year it would be 100% points allocation. Skill level of players is really dictated by what grades they have played and how many games also if they have played any rep games.



For me. I would drop TPAs. Allocate the salary to each team and have an additional fund which is given to the bottom 3 teams go help them get up the ladder. Similar to nfl getting the draft pick order.
Sure there may be some teams who tank but it's more fair than the TPA system we have now

How can you stop players earning money from their own intellectual property..

Door Dash doesn't pay James Tedesco to run down the street because he plays for the Rorters.. they pay him because he's James Tedesco..

And he needs someone to pay his fines .....wogboy lol
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505267) said:
@nuggetron said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505263) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505250) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505243) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505241) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505218) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

What would you base your point allocations on?


Did they play junior football for the club - reduces points
Did they play 1st grade for another club - increases points
Did they play their first grade game at another club - small points increase
Did they play State of Origin - increases points
Did they play for Australia or another tier 1 country - increases points
Did they play play for a 2nd Tier country - increases points
How many games/years have they played for the club - gradually reduces points
Did father or siblings play for the club - reduces points
A marquee allowance for 1-2 players - reduces points
Did they come from another senior sport (rugby/atletics etc) - no point increase
There were others but I can't remember off the top of my head

Thats a few starting ideas - I know there are many issues with this but it was just an attempt to find a workable solution

When I did the comparison between the Tigers and Rooster, the Roosters points were @ double of the Tigers

Points for internationals and origin are extremely problematic. There is also no mechanism in your allocation for differentiating skill level of players.


Yeah my solution for internationals and origin players would a gradual roll back of points. It would depend on how many games they played e.g. 1-5, or 5-10 etc and how long ago they were played. Eg if a player had not played at that level for 4 years no points would be added if it was 2 years it would be 50% point allocation if it was last year it would be 100% points allocation. Skill level of players is really dictated by what grades they have played and how many games also if they have played any rep games.



For me. I would drop TPAs. Allocate the salary to each team and have an additional fund which is given to the bottom 3 teams go help them get up the ladder. Similar to nfl getting the draft pick order.
Sure there may be some teams who tank but it's more fair than the TPA system we have now

You can't get rid of TPAs.

Look the main reason we brought TPA's in was the attraction to rugby union for certain top tier players ...rugby union is a 3rd tier sport now bar NZ .....TPA's are far less important now than they have ever been ......
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505293) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

Are you able to share anything?


Still in discussion with the clubs and SRU, when it comes out I will definitely share
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505315) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505267) said:
@nuggetron said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505263) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505250) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505243) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505241) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505218) said:
@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505211) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505200) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505175) said:
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505098) said:
As suggested before, all players should be on a points system. The more valuable a player is the higher the points.

I'll say this every time, and it's not a slight against you, but can anyone please show me a professional league of any sport globally that has a centrally-assigned points cap system in place? Can't work, won't work.

I see no reason why it couldn’t work, but it won’t happen because the people with the power ($) don’t want it.

I don't think it would work, too many variables.


I submitted a paper (upgrades to the current 100 point system) to the Sydney Rugby Union on this a few months ago. I agree it is terribly difficult and will never work unless it is administered appropriately. For fun I used the same method on the Tigers and the Roosters. Very interesting results

What would you base your point allocations on?


Did they play junior football for the club - reduces points
Did they play 1st grade for another club - increases points
Did they play their first grade game at another club - small points increase
Did they play State of Origin - increases points
Did they play for Australia or another tier 1 country - increases points
Did they play play for a 2nd Tier country - increases points
How many games/years have they played for the club - gradually reduces points
Did father or siblings play for the club - reduces points
A marquee allowance for 1-2 players - reduces points
Did they come from another senior sport (rugby/atletics etc) - no point increase
There were others but I can't remember off the top of my head

Thats a few starting ideas - I know there are many issues with this but it was just an attempt to find a workable solution

When I did the comparison between the Tigers and Rooster, the Roosters points were @ double of the Tigers

Points for internationals and origin are extremely problematic. There is also no mechanism in your allocation for differentiating skill level of players.


Yeah my solution for internationals and origin players would a gradual roll back of points. It would depend on how many games they played e.g. 1-5, or 5-10 etc and how long ago they were played. Eg if a player had not played at that level for 4 years no points would be added if it was 2 years it would be 50% point allocation if it was last year it would be 100% points allocation. Skill level of players is really dictated by what grades they have played and how many games also if they have played any rep games.



For me. I would drop TPAs. Allocate the salary to each team and have an additional fund which is given to the bottom 3 teams go help them get up the ladder. Similar to nfl getting the draft pick order.
Sure there may be some teams who tank but it's more fair than the TPA system we have now

You can't get rid of TPAs.

Look the main reason we brought TPA's in was the attraction to rugby union for certain top tier players ...rugby union is a 3rd tier sport now bar NZ .....TPA's are far less important now than they have ever been ......

TPAs have always existed, they just didn't have a name.
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505141) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505118) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505025) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505022) said:
If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing


Just goes to show that Cotric is as dumb as the rest of the dogs.They have a better chance of going back to back spooners than making the 8 imo.Though i am sure his bank balance is far healthier playing for them

I ask him who's playing hooker
 
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505290) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505257) said:
@tiger-tarl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505246) said:
Any word on Isaiah Papali'i since this report...

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-2022-future-of-parramatta-eels-forward-isaiah-papalii-up-in-air-as-wests-tigers-circle/9786724b-83b0-4bd8-9448-a7116eabc626

Would be a real coup for us.

@Tiger-Tarl only thing that @THE_POM mentioned was that a couple days ago we sat down with him and his manager and apparently he’s keen on joining the club but yesterday he had another meeting with Parramatta and they did up the offer to what was originally offered to him but he thinks it still doesn’t match our offer so the ball is in Isaiah’s court now as to where he wants to go hopefully we can snag him though

From an article in yesterday's SMH by Michael Chammas; "Parramatta may also need to up the offer to back-rower of the year Isaiah Papali'l. He has been offerred an upgrade of $75,000 for his 2022 contract, plus $425,000 fir the next two years. Wests tigers have expressed an interest in Papal'l and have discussed spending up to $600,000 on him,. The Tigers are refusing to pay Leilua's asking price of $700,000 and see Papail'las a better values alternative at that price.

Papalil's prerence is to remain at the Eels who now the money to up his offer."

Same tactic every time…go to the Tigers and get a very healthy offer, go back to your club and get them to get close..How many times have we been down this road. I guess one day a player might buck the trend and sign with us, so you got to keep trying..but I bet we miss out again
 
@supercoach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505209) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505159) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505148) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505141) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505118) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505025) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505022) said:
If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing


Just goes to show that Cotric is as dumb as the rest of the dogs.They have a better chance of going back to back spooners than making the 8 imo.Though i am sure his bank balance is far healthier playing for them

I don’t think they are any chance to get the spoon. They’re a pretty good roster.

Still a mid table roster but not in the running for the spoon.

As it stands now our roster has a mortgage on the spoon. Even the Dragons have a better squad. Ok every year a few teams over and under achieve, but we would have to over achieve to come 15th or better

:-1:
 
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505201) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505178) said:
@tigerman-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505125) said:
@odessa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505118) said:
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505025) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505022) said:
If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing

So players don’t want to come to the Tigers cos they don’t want to lose. But he loves it at the Dogs. Righto

Despite the bad season, Tigers in 2021 had 2 more wins than Bulldogs managed all of 2020 and 2021 combined.

How many good wins did we have, we preyed on injured teams in large part.

All wins, are good wins.
 
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If we somehow get Hodgson and they don't take Liddle I would be on the phone to Dogs for a swap for Cotric..
I don't think they will get Moloney from Eels so might be tempted.

Honestly if that’s the case Madge wanted another Prop send him to Dogs in exchange for Thompson we might have to throw a bit of money as well but that’s what I’d be doing

I spoke with Cotric today he likes the dogs thinks they will be top 8 I asked him why players don't come to the Tigers he said they don't want to lose he absolutely loves Ricky Stuart said Rick loves his players looks after them and genuinely takes an interest in there wellbeing


Just goes to show that Cotric is as dumb as the rest of the dogs.They have a better chance of going back to back spooners than making the 8 imo.Though i am sure his bank balance is far healthier playing for them

I don’t think they are any chance to get the spoon. They’re a pretty good roster.

Still a mid table roster but not in the running for the spoon.

As it stands now our roster has a mortgage on the spoon. Even the Dragons have a better squad. Ok every year a few teams over and under achieve, but we would have to over achieve to come 15th or better

:-1:

What a load!!!
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505381) said:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/concord-or-canberra-tigers-hoping-for-hodgson-decision-soon-20211113-p598mg.html

Concord or Canberra? Tigers hoping for Hodgson decision soon
Christian Nicolussi
By Christian Nicolussi

Thanks for the speedy post Lauren
 
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Concord or Canberra? Tigers hoping for Hodgson decision soon
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By Christian Nicolussi
November 13, 2021 — 5.14pm
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Josh Hodgson’s playing future is set to be decided within days with Wests Tigers hopeful the English rake will resume pre-season training at Concord, not Canberra.

Hodgson is due back at the Raiders on Friday, but Tigers officials have good reason to believe he no longer wants to be in the nation’s capital and is chasing a fresh start in Sydney under coach Michael Maguire.


The Tigers would love Hodgson’s experience at dummy half, which would not only benefit the young forward pack but also take pressure off Luke Brooks.

The 32-year-old has already undergone a medical at the club. The only remaining hurdle is how much of his $900,000 deal for next year the Tigers are prepared to pay.

Sources with knowledge of the negotiations said Tigers officials will not budge on paying more than $500,000. The Raiders have already covered the first month of Hodgson’s salary this season, given the NRL pay cycle begins in November.

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has repeatedly said there are no issues with Hodgson and knows he has plenty to offer in the final year of his contract in 2022. Hodgson was vocal about fellow Englishman George Williams’ mid-season return home, but Stuart persisted with him in the No.9.


With back-up rake Tom Starling due to front a Central Coast court in the new year following an altercation in a hotel, the Raiders are also aware there is no need to rush Hodgson out the door.

The Tigers hit pause on negotiations with Hodgson so new director of football Tim Sheens could get settled, with the club’s only premiership-winning coach commencing work just this week.

The club has first-choice hooker Jacob Liddle, as well as Jock Madden, while recruit Jackson Hastings and Tyrone Peachey are both capable of playing dummy half. But they keep coming back to Hodgson’s record on the big stage and have been buoyed by the feedback he wants to join them.

The Tigers are keen to offer Hodgson a two-year deal, but have no interest for 2023 or beyond if they cannot land him for next season.

The idea is for Hodgson to start afresh alongside the likes of Brooks, who, along with the club’s other senior players, resumes training on Thursday, so the spine has more than enough time to come together.

Apart from Hodgson, the Tigers are keen on recruiting another outside back. They have Englishman Oliver Gildart, Tommy Talau is overcoming an ACL rupture, while James Roberts remains on a train-and-trial deal and will know if he has a new deal before Christmas.

It was another big week in Tiger town with the return of Sheens on Monday followed by the news favourite son Benji Marshall will come back to focus on development and the club’s pathways programs.

“Benji Marshall is such an important part of our history, but we wanted him to be part of our future as well. He belongs here at the Wests Tigers,” Wests Ashfield chief Simon Cook told the Herald this week about Marshall’s return.

Thanks Lauren, I was just thinking about this and what's happening so fingers crossed we get it over the line..
Having him have his medical is a good sign as you are not doing that if not keen.
 
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Josh Hodgson’s playing future is set to be decided within days with Wests Tigers hopeful the English rake will resume pre-season training at Concord, not Canberra.

Hodgson is due back at the Raiders on Friday, but Tigers officials have good reason to believe he no longer wants to be in the nation’s capital and is chasing a fresh start in Sydney under coach Michael Maguire.


The Tigers would love Hodgson’s experience at dummy half, which would not only benefit the young forward pack but also take pressure off Luke Brooks.

The 32-year-old has already undergone a medical at the club. The only remaining hurdle is how much of his $900,000 deal for next year the Tigers are prepared to pay.

Sources with knowledge of the negotiations said Tigers officials will not budge on paying more than $500,000. The Raiders have already covered the first month of Hodgson’s salary this season, given the NRL pay cycle begins in November.

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has repeatedly said there are no issues with Hodgson and knows he has plenty to offer in the final year of his contract in 2022. Hodgson was vocal about fellow Englishman George Williams’ mid-season return home, but Stuart persisted with him in the No.9.


With back-up rake Tom Starling due to front a Central Coast court in the new year following an altercation in a hotel, the Raiders are also aware there is no need to rush Hodgson out the door.

The Tigers hit pause on negotiations with Hodgson so new director of football Tim Sheens could get settled, with the club’s only premiership-winning coach commencing work just this week.

The club has first-choice hooker Jacob Liddle, as well as Jock Madden, while recruit Jackson Hastings and Tyrone Peachey are both capable of playing dummy half. But they keep coming back to Hodgson’s record on the big stage and have been buoyed by the feedback he wants to join them.

The Tigers are keen to offer Hodgson a two-year deal, but have no interest for 2023 or beyond if they cannot land him for next season.

The idea is for Hodgson to start afresh alongside the likes of Brooks, who, along with the club’s other senior players, resumes training on Thursday, so the spine has more than enough time to come together.

Apart from Hodgson, the Tigers are keen on recruiting another outside back. They have Englishman Oliver Gildart, Tommy Talau is overcoming an ACL rupture, while James Roberts remains on a train-and-trial deal and will know if he has a new deal before Christmas.

It was another big week in Tiger town with the return of Sheens on Monday followed by the news favourite son Benji Marshall will come back to focus on development and the club’s pathways programs.

“Benji Marshall is such an important part of our history, but we wanted him to be part of our future as well. He belongs here at the Wests Tigers,” Wests Ashfield chief Simon Cook told the Herald this week about Marshall’s return.

Great article by Nicolussi. Stopped reading when said ‘journalist’ implied that Jock Madden is the back up hooker behind Jacob Liddle.
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505381) said:
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Concord or Canberra? Tigers hoping for Hodgson decision soon
Christian Nicolussi
By Christian Nicolussi
November 13, 2021 — 5.14pm
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Josh Hodgson’s playing future is set to be decided within days with Wests Tigers hopeful the English rake will resume pre-season training at Concord, not Canberra.

Hodgson is due back at the Raiders on Friday, but Tigers officials have good reason to believe he no longer wants to be in the nation’s capital and is chasing a fresh start in Sydney under coach Michael Maguire.


The Tigers would love Hodgson’s experience at dummy half, which would not only benefit the young forward pack but also take pressure off Luke Brooks.

The 32-year-old has already undergone a medical at the club. The only remaining hurdle is how much of his $900,000 deal for next year the Tigers are prepared to pay.

Sources with knowledge of the negotiations said Tigers officials will not budge on paying more than $500,000. The Raiders have already covered the first month of Hodgson’s salary this season, given the NRL pay cycle begins in November.

Canberra coach Ricky Stuart has repeatedly said there are no issues with Hodgson and knows he has plenty to offer in the final year of his contract in 2022. Hodgson was vocal about fellow Englishman George Williams’ mid-season return home, but Stuart persisted with him in the No.9.


With back-up rake Tom Starling due to front a Central Coast court in the new year following an altercation in a hotel, the Raiders are also aware there is no need to rush Hodgson out the door.

The Tigers hit pause on negotiations with Hodgson so new director of football Tim Sheens could get settled, with the club’s only premiership-winning coach commencing work just this week.

The club has first-choice hooker Jacob Liddle, as well as Jock Madden, while recruit Jackson Hastings and Tyrone Peachey are both capable of playing dummy half. But they keep coming back to Hodgson’s record on the big stage and have been buoyed by the feedback he wants to join them.

The Tigers are keen to offer Hodgson a two-year deal, but have no interest for 2023 or beyond if they cannot land him for next season.

The idea is for Hodgson to start afresh alongside the likes of Brooks, who, along with the club’s other senior players, resumes training on Thursday, so the spine has more than enough time to come together.

Apart from Hodgson, the Tigers are keen on recruiting another outside back. They have Englishman Oliver Gildart, Tommy Talau is overcoming an ACL rupture, while James Roberts remains on a train-and-trial deal and will know if he has a new deal before Christmas.

It was another big week in Tiger town with the return of Sheens on Monday followed by the news favourite son Benji Marshall will come back to focus on development and the club’s pathways programs.

“Benji Marshall is such an important part of our history, but we wanted him to be part of our future as well. He belongs here at the Wests Tigers,” Wests Ashfield chief Simon Cook told the Herald this week about Marshall’s return.

Well done Lauren.
 
Sounds like Hodgson is all about money, he's done a medical he's ready to join so hopefully the clubs get it done
 

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